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mstennes
12-08-2010, 13:42
So I have another 1911 thats needs refinished, my Pro has Black T which is great for corrosion control, but bad for wear resistance. My question here, taking the wear resistance out of the equation, which really is the better finish, as in for corrosion control, and lubricity?
ETA, what are the pros and cons of each?

glock2740
12-08-2010, 13:53
Hardchrome! :number1::pepper::dancingbanana::dancing::banana:

mstennes
12-08-2010, 13:57
Hardchrome! :number1::pepper::dancingbanana::dancing::banana:

Chrome is for barrels and street rods:faint:

Hokie1911
12-08-2010, 13:59
Chrome is for barrels and street rods:faint:

Oh dear Lord....don't tell Joe things like that. :rofl:

Quack
12-08-2010, 14:02
You forgot Harley's.

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 14:04
your thinking of the wrong kind of chrome. I guess Joe is going to have to show you what it looks like.:supergrin:

GJ1981
12-08-2010, 14:06
Melonite would be the tops for your criteria. IB is very good for wear, but I have heard it is nowhere close to Melonite for corrosion resistance. IB also doesn't have much lubricity.

There are downfalls to the Melonite. The biggest is the temperatures during the process.

I've read reports claiming Black-T keeps protecting even if it wears off, but if I see bare metal, I feel it's unprotected. I remember seeing a post with a Pro with slight rust on the slide.

If the color of the pistol isn't important, I'd say NP3/NP3+ would give the best overall value.

Quack
12-08-2010, 14:08
OP also look at Regard//NP3
Of what you have listed, they should all perform well.
Black-T is used on submarines, so that should give a good indication on corrosion control

mstennes
12-08-2010, 14:34
your thinking of the wrong kind of chrome. I guess Joe is going to have to show you what it looks like.:supergrin:

I know, one is industrial chrome and the other is "pretty" chrome, just being a :whistling:

mstennes
12-08-2010, 14:34
You forgot Harley's.

Jeese, how did I forget those:shocked:

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 14:35
I know, one is industrial chrome and the other is "pretty" chrome, just being a :whistling:
I just wanted Joe to show off his NN.:supergrin:

mstennes
12-08-2010, 14:48
I just wanted Joe to show off his NN.:supergrin:

Gotcha:dunno:, so how do you clean a chrome pistol? Maguires?:supergrin:

drc767
12-08-2010, 15:25
Black-T is used on submarines, so that should give a good indication on corrosion control

Don't know about that one......The exterior of US Subs is a very highly classified, sound protective, acoustic absorbing material called anechoic coating. About the only thing it may have in common with Black T is the color. :)

Quack
12-08-2010, 15:32
http://www.black-t.com/

.45Super-Man
12-08-2010, 16:20
Have it Melonited and then Cerakoted!:supergrin:

mstennes
12-08-2010, 17:42
I just wanted Joe to show off his NN.:supergrin:

Pictures or it does not exist!

Hokie1911
12-08-2010, 17:44
Pictures or it does not exist!

:rofl:

That goofball has only posted pics of it 734 times in the past few months. :tongueout:

Quack
12-08-2010, 17:54
http://hammerbackguns.com/images/1191109BHG1.jpg

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 17:56
http://hammerbackguns.com/images/1191109BHG1.jpg
:steamed::steamed:
I didn't give you permission to post my Taurus Custom Shop Tacticool Blingalicius Operator. :tongueout:

Hokie1911
12-08-2010, 18:14
Pictures or it does not exist!

He's very proud of it and loves to show it off.

http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hellokitty.jpg

Here's the AR he had made to match it.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/AEG_Custom_416HK_lg.jpg

...and his favorite Sig as well.

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hello-kitty-sig-sauer-p226-gun.jpg

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 18:15
He's very proud of it and loves to show it off.

http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hellokitty.jpg

Here's the AR he had made to match it.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/AEG_Custom_416HK_lg.jpg

...and his favorite Sig as well.

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hello-kitty-sig-sauer-p226-gun.jpg
:animlol::animlol:

Hokie1911
12-08-2010, 18:29
G17,G19,G20,G23,G26,G27,G29,G30,G32*
Is the 1911 the right choice for you? Two criteria come to mind a) A passion for the 1911 platform and b) If you treat your pistols like we all treat our lawnmowers – use a Glock

...from Joe's signature. This is the G26 that he carries daily.

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hello-kitty-pink-gun.jpg

Quack
12-08-2010, 18:37
and here's the weekend car...

http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/HelloKittyTRFinalsmall.jpg

http://www.diymyride.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hello-kitty-exhaust-tailpipe1.png

and his other AR
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z80/SushiBoyPics/hello-kitty-assault-rifle.jpg

polizei1
12-08-2010, 18:39
You forgot Harley's.

No way! Mine is all flat black! :tongueout:

glock2740
12-08-2010, 19:42
Oh dear Lord....don't tell Joe things like that. :rofl:
You know that's right.

I just wanted Joe to show off his NN.:supergrin:

Pictures or it does not exist!



That goofball has only posted pics of it 734 times in the past few months. :tongueout:

Here's the NN.

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/HC3.jpg


And the Colt

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewColtandVaquero005.jpg


And the Kimber

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/TrickedoutKimbers011.jpg

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 19:45
You know that's right.







Here's the NN.

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/HC3.jpg


And the Colt

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewColtandVaquero005.jpg
:wow:
Well it's about time you got here. :supergrin::wavey:

glock2740
12-08-2010, 19:48
G17,G19,G20,G23,G26,G27,G29,G30,G32*
Is the 1911 the right choice for you? Two criteria come to mind a) A passion for the 1911 platform and b) If you treat your pistols like we all treat our lawnmowers use a Glock

...from Joe's signature. This is the G26 that he carries daily.

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hello-kitty-pink-gun.jpg
:rofl: That's just wrong dude. :rofl:

Hokie1911
12-08-2010, 19:53
:rofl: That's just wrong dude. :rofl:

:poke: :nutcheck: :wavey:

Quack
12-08-2010, 20:17
:rofl: That's just wrong dude. :rofl:

THen i guess this is right? :animlol:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1119855842_mHe8D-L.jpg

thecableguy
12-08-2010, 20:25
:animlol::animlol:THen i guess this is right? :animlol:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1119855842_mHe8D-L.jpg

glock2740
12-08-2010, 20:39
THen i guess this is right? :animlol:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1119855842_mHe8D-L.jpg

:puking: Now that's really wrong.




:rofl:

doc540
12-08-2010, 21:08
When should I expect the Black T on my Commander to start wearing?:cool:

mstennes
12-09-2010, 08:36
When should I expect the Black T on my Commander to start wearing?:cool:

Yesterday:supergrin:

mstennes
12-09-2010, 08:38
You know that's right.







Here's the NN.

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/HC3.jpg


And the Colt

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewColtandVaquero005.jpg


And the Kimber

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/TrickedoutKimbers011.jpg

Purdy

mstennes
12-09-2010, 08:39
http://hammerbackguns.com/images/1191109BHG1.jpg

That looks like a Mexican drug lord owns it

doc540
12-09-2010, 08:59
Yesterday:supergrin:

I've read some negative reports about Black T having wear issues, but I've yet to see any wear on my Commander.

(And I saw the internet picture of Black T wear on someone's gun before I decided to have the Birdsong's do the job.)

It would seem that surface-to-surface wear would appear more quickly than surface-to-holster wear, yet there are no signs of any wear between the slide and frame rails.

And I hate to admit it, but I carry it in a plastic Fobus holster which I thought would've caused more wear than leather.

No wear any where yet.

GJ1981
12-09-2010, 09:20
They must have done a good job on yours, I was seeing wear inside of 10 draws from an MTAC.

Or maybe mine is just defective...wouldn't surprise me with the issues I've had with my pistol.

Hokie1911
12-09-2010, 09:38
And I hate to admit it, but I carry it in a plastic Fobus holster which I thought would've caused more wear than leather.

No wear any where yet.

:faint:

Cobra64
12-09-2010, 23:46
Don't give Exeter any ideas.


http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hello-kitty-sig-sauer-p226-gun.jpg[/QUOTE]

NonPCnraRN
12-10-2010, 01:57
No way! Mine is all flat black! :tongueout:

My StreetBob is pewter denim to match my stainless Milspec 1911. If it is one thing I hate is a 1911 that clashes with ones Harley.