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Mayhem like Me
12-20-2010, 21:12
Ok I love the S&W model 639 it was my first duty auto followed by a Combat Commander worked by Hoag..
This new 9mm DW guardian looks to be an excellent carry piece.

Has anyone had experience with the 9mm bobbed Dan Wessons?
I have a 45acp pre CZ cbob that had to go back after break in to get it working right, I'm not thrilled about sending new guns back on my dime .. Is the new guardian a decent 9mm 1911???

Quack
12-20-2010, 21:17
good stuff...
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1261129

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004748393_vcNh2-L-2.jpg

Quack
12-20-2010, 21:20
and here's the range report.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15957644&postcount=16

Mayhem like Me
12-20-2010, 21:27
i was just about to ask at 1911 forums thanks quack......

Quack
12-20-2010, 21:34
i'd give you the same answer over there, but with the links to that forums thread :animlol:

Sarge43
12-20-2010, 22:02
Just in case you hadn't heard...... The 2011 lineup includes a Guardian in .45.
Good luck!
Sarge

rsxr22
12-20-2010, 22:16
They are an awesome 1911! Kinda pricey, but you definitely get quality for your money. I think the main reason I dont own one as of yet is basically because they are almost LB money and personally I'd rather have one of those of the DW, but thats just my opinion. LB doesnt make a bobtail though

Wade-19
12-20-2010, 22:17
Just in case you hadn't heard...... The 2011 lineup includes a Guardian in .45.
Good luck!
Sarge

Anyone feels safe carrying a .45, a REAL man carries a 9mm !:wavey:

Quack
12-20-2010, 22:30
They are an awesome 1911! Kinda pricey, but you definitely get quality for your money. I think the main reason I dont own one as of yet is basically because they are almost LB money and personally I'd rather have one of those of the DW, but thats just my opinion. LB doesnt make a bobtail though

to put in perspective...if you bought a STI Ranger II in 9mm ($999), then had it bobtailed (~$250) then refinished (~$250) you have the price of the Guardian ;)

Hokie1911
12-20-2010, 22:48
Anyone feels safe carrying a .45, a REAL man carries a 9mm !:wavey:

:rofl:

Hokie1911
12-20-2010, 22:51
to put in perspective...if you bought a STI Ranger II in 9mm ($999), then had it bobtailed (~$250) then refinished (~$250) you have the price of the Guardian ;)

I'd like to see a Brian comparison of those two. Yes, I know it will never happen. I think I would probably opt for the steel STI bob'd for about the same money.

knedrgr
12-20-2010, 22:53
to put in perspective...if you bought a STI Ranger II in 9mm ($999), then had it bobtailed (~$250) then refinished (~$250) you have the price of the Guardian ;)

tough decisions...

Quack
12-20-2010, 22:55
I'd like to see a Brian comparison of those two. Yes, I know it will never happen. I think I would probably opt for the steel STI bob'd for about the same money.

but the Guardian is on your "to buy" list :whistling:

knedrgr
12-20-2010, 22:55
although it would be a nice addition to my dw cco.

knedrgr
12-20-2010, 22:56
but the Guardian is on your "to buy" list :whistling:

a lot of guns are on his list :whistling:

thecableguy
12-20-2010, 22:57
I was looking at the new DW catalog and the Guardian is coming in .45, and I would love to have one but those prices are getting up there aren't they?

Hokie1911
12-20-2010, 22:58
but the Guardian is on your "to buy" list :whistling:

That was purely hypathetical for the purposes of this thread. If I was rollin' in chedda like you, I'd buy both. I'm not getting the STI and to be honest, I would probably get an EMP and either send it to J Harrison or SACS before either.

Hokie1911
12-20-2010, 22:59
a lot of guns are on his list :whistling:

That list is long and distinguished...much like my....nevermind. :supergrin:

vmr357
12-21-2010, 10:36
A SW1911 ES, their little CCO, was on the short end of my to get list until I found this: http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad167/vmr357/DWG-L.jpg

With a P228, a couple of P35s, and a good supply of 9mm it seemed like a no brainer to me.

Vern

Mayhem like Me
12-21-2010, 12:32
I'd like to see a Brian comparison of those two. Yes, I know it will never happen. I think I would probably opt for the steel STI bob'd for about the same money.


I have 8 railed 1911's in my office for testing for our new SWAT duty gun. the STI did not make the cut I am frankly not impressed with the QC at this time.

Hokie1911
12-21-2010, 14:39
I have 8 railed 1911's in my office for testing for our new SWAT duty gun. the STI did not make the cut I am frankly not impressed with the QC at this time.

Which ones are you guys looking at?

Mayhem like Me
12-21-2010, 22:08
STI duty one and tactical... Springfield MP operator, TRP operator , Doublestar, Colts railed guns, AND A SIG..

We settled on a TRP Railed bottom with a MP operator top and both sets of grips VZ and Pachmyers.. with the OD green armory coat... The regular TRP operator only comes with the Bull barrel and adjustable sights... the MP operator has no magwell or front checkering..

The STI duty one was the most accurate but even after break in had several FTF with ball ammo.

We had to borrow a Tactical and it had sporadic magazine issues with no rhyme or reason???

We also tested the H&K 45 and S&W MP45 with the Glock 21...

Quack
12-21-2010, 22:36
I believe that there is a "LBPD" model, which is basically an all black MC Operator


found it...
http://estore.proforceonline.com/store/catalog/catalog.aspx?pg=product&ID=PX9105MLP-BLK&item=&sfv=&cat=SP1&desc=&udc=&mct=&vndr=&ba=&pmin=&pmax=&note1=45AP&note2=&note3=&note4=&note5=&max=

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:17
Yep but we want the TRP lower it has the removable magwell and checkering with the VZ grips, some guys liked the pachmeyers so I spec'd it to come with both grips green armory coat and the Fixed sight TRP/MC operator top with regular barrel and bushing.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:33
STI duty one and tactical... Springfield MP operator, TRP operator , Doublestar, Colts railed guns, AND A SIG..

We also tested the H&K 45 and S&W MP45 with the Glock 21...

How did the Doublestar do?

And those plastic guns? Out of those 3, which came out better?


I believe that there is a "LBPD" model, which is basically an all black MC Operator

found it...
http://estore.proforceonline.com/store/catalog/catalog.aspx?pg=product&ID=PX9105MLP-BLK&item=&sfv=&cat=SP1&desc=&udc=&mct=&vndr=&ba=&pmin=&pmax=&note1=45AP&note2=&note3=&note4=&note5=&max=

Looks sweet! I like how the rail isn't flared out .

Hokie1911
12-22-2010, 08:41
Yep but we want the TRP lower it has the removable magwell and checkering with the VZ grips, some guys liked the pachmeyers so I spec'd it to come with both grips green armory coat and the Fixed sight TRP/MC operator top with regular barrel and bushing.

That sounds like a solid setup. :thumbsup:

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:47
That sounds like a solid setup. :thumbsup:

It should be , we fitted one together with the guns we had everyone liked it the best ..TRP railed bottom with MP operator top...some younger guys had never fired a weapon with pachmayer grips and absolutely loved the feel of them. so we had to add that option...

Hokie1911
12-22-2010, 08:54
It should be , we fitted one together with the guns we had everyone liked it the best ..TRP railed bottom with MP operator top...some younger guys had never fired a weapon with pachmayer grips and absolutely loved the feel of them. so we had to add that option...

Best of both worlds. Always good to have choices.

BuckyP
12-22-2010, 09:03
How did the Doublestar do?

And those plastic guns? Out of those 3, which came out better?


+1, good question.

triggerjerk
12-22-2010, 09:13
Yeah, I'd like to hear how the G21 fared as well.

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 10:00
+1, good question.

Double star was not good, first one went back due to hammer follow.. second had feeding issues with ball even after break in of 300 -500 rounds still had issuess with feeding the 5-7 rounds with varrying brands of quality magazines. Had a great trigger and a good feel, safty was very stiff QC seems to be hit or miss.


G 21 nothing special held alot of rounds guys compared it like having a hunting knife when you wanted a scalpel not nearly as accurate as the other offerings and felt too big to some.


H&K45 best feel and accuracy of the polymer guns very reliable

M&P 45 no one liked the trigger or reset, I have a personal one with the bowie trigger and it is night and day, no issues with reliability I felt it was very accurate and a great value.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 10:14
Double star was not good, first one went back due to hammer follow.. second had feeding issues with ball even after break in of 300 -500 rounds still had issuess with feeding the 5-7 rounds with varrying brands of quality magazines. Had a great trigger and a good feel, safty was very stiff QC seems to be hit or miss.

Looks good on paper. Looks good in the picture. Looks like a good value for the money. Too bad there were some issues. Then it is their first entry into the 1911 market.

M&P 45 no one liked the trigger or reset, I have a personal one with the bowie trigger and it is night and day, no issues with reliability I felt it was very accurate and a great value.

I want to pick up an M&P45 and add it to the collection w/ my M&P9. My 9 has the Apex sear and it's wonderful. But had to modify the trigger bar to get a better reset feel. Just wish it was as pronounce as my Glock's resent. But overall, still like it way better than my Glock.

Quack
12-22-2010, 10:40
the APEX RAM should take care of the reset problem.

Sporwick
12-26-2010, 21:22
shot a Guardian today and all I can say is WOW....what a smooth shooting gun.

Quack
12-26-2010, 21:23
yes it is. great companion to an Ed Brown Kobra Carry.

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 21:24
yes it is. great companion to an Ed Brown Kobra Carry.

Get your voice out of my head....

Quack
12-26-2010, 21:26
Get the Guardian before the EMP. by the time you are ready, there will probably be some on the used market.

Quack
12-26-2010, 21:27
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1026324255_D2JjM-L.jpg

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 21:30
Get the Guardian before the EMP. by the time you are ready, there will probably be some on the used market.

It will be this summer for sure. I am so back and forth. I really enjoyed your EMP and would love to get one for some work by J Harrison or SACS....but the Guardian would be a perfect match for my KC and end up being $600 cheaper than a custom EMP. I love 9mm in a 1911 and it would alleviate the reload option. Too many choices. :rofl:

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 21:31
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1026324255_D2JjM-L.jpg

Great pic. No 10-8 rear yet? I thought you already put one on.

Quack
12-26-2010, 21:35
Great pic. No 10-8 rear yet? I thought you already put one on.

10-8 is on, just don't have a recent pic.

rsxr22
12-26-2010, 22:17
Come on! Don without a flat trigger and 10-8 rear? Ya right!

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 22:19
Come on! Don without a flat trigger and 10-8 rear? Ya right!

Ummmmmm :headscratch:

rsxr22
12-26-2010, 22:21
Great pic. No 10-8 rear yet? I thought you already put one on.

Did I miss something?

Aiden
12-27-2010, 00:31
Damnit the Christmas season ended without me buying another 1911, and I was HAPPY!

Now I want one of those.

You've ruined my happiness.

Hokie1911
12-27-2010, 07:21
Did I miss something?

Come on! Don without a flat trigger and 10-8 rear? Ya right!

The fact that it has a flat trigger and he said it has a 10-8 rear? :rofl: