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Chris Derrick
12-22-2010, 00:52
New gun, I have it down to 4 so far some are little over. Dan Wesson, Kinber super carry custom, Colt combat Commander, Springfield TRP.

What do you all say? I am trying to make my mind up and don't want to go ove $1000. It will be for play, home defense, and play range time etc... Thanks CD

Nickpisp
12-22-2010, 00:58
The Colt. The Kimber and the TRP are both around $1250, I'm pretty sure a DW will be way over a grand too.

69 Mach One
12-22-2010, 00:59
I love my Kimber CDP II Pro but it is in my .45 acp carry rotation. For what you are looking for I would go with a full size 5" barrell. I think the Dan Wesson would slightly edge out the Springfirld TRP IMHO. But if you ever considered it for carry, Kimber Super Carry Custom hands down.

bac1023
12-22-2010, 05:13
STI Trojan over any of those for $1000.

The TRP is over $1000.

Rinspeed
12-22-2010, 05:20
Used TRP would get my vote.

Officer's Match
12-22-2010, 06:27
Range Officer and a bunch of ammo.

ProCarryNAustin
12-22-2010, 06:38
Definitely STI Trojan for my $1000.

skipsan
12-22-2010, 06:38
I agree that the Springfield Range Officer should be given a look. At $800 max (some have found theirs for more than $100 less), it really is a good value. In my hands, it will outshoot my TRP but that may be a coincidence as the R.O. and TRP are allegedly built to the same accuracy standards.

samuse
12-22-2010, 06:48
I'd get a Springfield Mil-Spec and set aside the extra money for some mags and a good reliability tune.

ThreadKiller
12-22-2010, 06:53
S&W, the plain jane version and ammo.

Cerebrus
12-22-2010, 07:11
another vote for the Trojan..

Hokie1911
12-22-2010, 08:13
STI Trojan hands down.

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:13
Colt rail gun.. Or a MP operator. Can't drink The STI cool aid yet those guns are not forged crappy sights for a carry gun and finish is like you did it with a marker.

brzusa.1911
12-22-2010, 08:16
SA Loaded, $800 - series 70, forged, night sights, lifetime warranty...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=207599704

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206578546

Hokie1911
12-22-2010, 08:16
Colt rail gun.. Or a MP operator. Can't drink The STI cool aid yet those guns are not forged crappy sights for a carry gun and finish is like you did it with a marker.

He said for "play, HD, and range". No mention of carrying it.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:21
You're going to have to add a few more hundo to get those on your list. Sticking to your $1K budget, then get a SA Range Officer and a rear solid rear sight to replace the factory adjustable sight. And you'll have money left for ammo.

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:23
Excuse me for being practical.

From what I have seen the STI is overpriced buy a range officer..great value with the money saved get better internals and have them fitted for less than the price of the STI.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:24
SA Loaded, $800 - series 70, forged, night sights, lifetime warranty...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=207599704

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206578546

I have a Loaded, but with the intro of the Range Officer, it trumps the Loaded model. Fit and finish on the RO is much better than the Loaded. It might be park, but can be refinished to another, better, finish.

Nickpisp
12-22-2010, 08:30
Fit and finish on the Loaded is much better than the Loaded. .

I disagree. :rofl:

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:32
I have a Loaded, but with the intro of the Range Officer, it trumps the Loaded model. Fit and finish on the Loaded is much better than the Loaded. It might be park, but can be refinished to another, better, finish.

I Just purchased a loaded and a range officer,can't say the RO is fitted any tighter than teh loaded I have both parkedthe RO was cheaper the loaded has night sights and an AMBI saftey I alreday changed out the guide rod for a GI unit.

they shoot identical very tight groups both are NM ..fitted in the US they are doing very good work now.. I have converted back two years ago I had a string of bad luck with a TRP and a few others.. SA full sized guns are GTG.

Rimcrew
12-22-2010, 08:34
You can find used, like new, DW's for under a G pretty easily. I would vote for a used Valor.

My second, and highly suggested vote, would be to save up a few hun more and get a lightly used Les Baer PII. They can be found for around $1300, and you will never have buyers remorse.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:35
I disagree. :rofl:

damn! Coffee is still sinking in... :rofl:

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:40
I Just purchased a loaded and a range officer,can't say the RO is fitted any tighter than teh loaded I have both parkedthe RO was cheaper the loaded has night sights and an AMBI saftey I alreday changed out the guide rod for a GI unit..

Interesting...I guess my Loaded is slightly looser than yours. :dunno:

As for the NS, I really don't care for them, would be changing out the rear for a solid black and NS or gold dot front. Ambi is a must for me, since I'm a lefty. Would fit a better ambi; Brown or Wilson.

rsxr22
12-22-2010, 08:40
For $1000, STI Trojan hands down. If your talking more than a thousand, then the TRP and Valor are great options.

Spats McGee
12-22-2010, 08:42
I handled a Range Officer for the first time a day or two ago. I'd say it's definitely worth a closer look at that price.

Hokie1911
12-22-2010, 08:43
The RO and Harrison rear sight is a badass setup for $8hundy.

Officer's Match
12-22-2010, 08:46
I've carried 1911's for years with adjustable sights without problems.

Nickpisp
12-22-2010, 08:47
Interesting...I guess my Loaded is slightly looser than yours. :dunno:



The only Loaded I have experience with is my Champ Operator. It's fit every bit as well as my RO. I don't know if there's anything different between mine and a regular Loaded. I've been surprised to see how many people say the RO is fitted better than the Loaded. :dunno:

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 08:50
The only Loaded I have experience with is my Champ Operator. It's fit every bit as well as my RO. I don't know if there's anything different between mine and a regular Loaded. I've been surprised to see how many people say the RO is fitted better than the Loaded. :dunno:

Oh I have had a loaded in teh past that was not fitted as well for sure...but it seems lately they are really taking care, my loaded is very tight, and fitted correctly wear marks on the rails are flush and even, no shiney on one side and full finish on the other.. Same for the RO a very nice fit on slide to frame and barrel, first time bushing removal was tight on both but doable with fingers.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 08:51
I've carried 1911's for years with adjustable sights without problems.

I'm sure you're completely right. I just don't care for the profile look of the sight. Plus the vertical "wall" of that sucker just screws with me...maybe it's a mental thing that I can't get over... :dunno:

Quack
12-22-2010, 09:14
I'm sure you're completely right. I just don't care for the profile look of the sight. Plus the vertical "wall" of that sucker just screws with me...maybe it's a mental thing that I can't get over... :dunno:

It's all in your head...the 10-8 has a vertical wall.

Officer's Match
12-22-2010, 09:16
It's all in your head...the 10-8 has a vertical wall.

Yep, but nonetheless agreeing with me can be inadvisable. :rofl:

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2010, 09:28
I've carried 1911's for years with adjustable sights without problems.

I broke a rear sight off my first Gold cup and bent a few Bomars.. I break everything...

Quack
12-22-2010, 09:29
M&P and a M&Pc

Quack
12-22-2010, 09:30
how a about a Remington R1 and do some work on it?
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1130576478_rqdRJ-L.jpg

BuckyP
12-22-2010, 09:34
I broke a rear sight off my first Gold cup and bent a few Bomars.. I break everything...

I've broken a couple of Bomar knock offs (a Caspian and an STI), but so far haven't had a real Bomar come apart on me. Of course I just jinxed myself.
:scared:

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 09:39
It's all in your head...the 10-8 has a vertical wall.

yes, but not as vertical or over-vert as the target sights.

10-8 sights:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2010-DW-CCO_blacked-out-trigger.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1099073438_RFwCB-L.jpg


Target sights:
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004738330_kNBze-L-2.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004764513_tg7UX-L.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1004739489_2ob3W-L.jpg

Quack
12-22-2010, 09:43
the harrison is more like the adjustable sights than the 10-8

http://shop.harrisoncustom.com/images/thumbs/0000270.jpeg

http://www.louderthanwords.us/smallfoto/picts/ulfls/25102008/16396096601.jpg

Quack
12-22-2010, 09:45
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc466/mckey255/DSC_0018-4.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1049003065_9gXPG-L.jpg

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 10:02
and off to the milling machine it goes... LOL.

Quack
12-22-2010, 10:08
you getting the mil-spec cut?

WellArmedSheep
12-22-2010, 10:14
The Trojan. I love my 9mm Trojan so much I'm saving up for another one in .45ACP.

knedrgr
12-22-2010, 10:16
you getting the mil-spec cut?

Not yet. WIP winter project.

manly
12-22-2010, 10:37
hope these come out..http://http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=93736,http://http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=93380

Quack
12-22-2010, 10:37
Not yet. WIP winter project.

slacker

MarkCO
12-22-2010, 10:39
To the OP...

I'm going to assume this is your first 1911. For that reason, I would not go with something you are going to have to work on, or used.

While I have not shot the RO (and I HATE the name) it does look appealing.

Today, right now, I'd recomend the STI Trojan.

tx787
12-22-2010, 11:09
From your list I'd order them this way:

Dan Wesson Valor
Springfield TRP
Colt combat Commander
Kinber super carry custom

If you aren't going to carry I'd strong recommend getting something full (government) sized, it's really preferable for 1911s.

Both the DW and the TRP are at least $200-300 over $1,000. For truly staying under $1,000 I'd say get a Kimber TLE, Springfield Range Officer, Desert Eagle 1911G or the STI (I personally find STIs to be ugly but they are extremely well liked on this board and in the 1911 ownership community at large).

If you go the used route I'd buy with caution, 1911s require owners whose heads are not in their ***** and can suffer from abuse much more than Glock, Sigs, HKs, etc.

brisk21
12-22-2010, 11:13
Id get the Springfiled loaded 9mm to go with my TRP and Mil-Spec.

tango44
12-22-2010, 12:14
STI Spartan Wilson Mags and a lot of ammo!

ItsOnlyMoney
12-22-2010, 14:19
hope these come out..http://http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=93736,http://http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=93380


Be extremely careful with these ads on Texas Gun Trader. See if anything looks familier.
http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=93736

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=207737413

Lets see. The pics are EXACTLY the same. One for $900, the other for $1900. Location on TGT is Matzatlan, which is not exactly in Texas. I've emailed this guy a few times quizing him about the pics and price. He never responds. Buyer beware.

manly
12-22-2010, 14:37
ive used texas gun trader before but i only do FTF........your right buyer beware:cowboy:

SuperSleuth
12-22-2010, 16:12
I'd get a Springfield Mil-Spec and set aside the extra money for some mags and a good reliability tune.

This is what I'd do if I were buying a 1911 with a $1,000 budget.

glock2740
12-22-2010, 16:24
I'd go with a Kimber Stainless TLE. It has all of the features you'd want in a 1911 and is a good quality pistol. Good looking too. Either that or a full house custom shop Taurus PT1911. :whistling:

rflatt
12-22-2010, 20:06
Another vote for the Trojan.Also have a S&W that is an excellent 1911.

glock2740
12-22-2010, 20:11
how a about a Remington R1 and do some work on it?
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1130576478_rqdRJ-L.jpg
That's a great looking R1 Quack. :thumbsup:

Quack
12-22-2010, 20:16
THanks!!!!

it's almost done, waiting for sights and hammer.
Less than $200 in parts.
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1134871228_JFzkQ-L.jpg

glock2740
12-22-2010, 20:21
THanks!!!!

it's almost done, waiting for sights and hammer.
Less than $200 in parts.
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1134871228_JFzkQ-L.jpg
Damn you Quack. I'm gonna want one like that. :rofl:

T-Rod45
12-22-2010, 20:22
THIS ONE!!!!!

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1295924



:innocent:

Quack
12-22-2010, 20:29
Damn you Quack. I'm gonna want one like that. :rofl:
it was a good learning experience fitting a beavertail grip safety, i think I have about 6-8 hours of hand filing and sanding on the GS itself. the other parts i have done plenty of times, so the biggest thing was the grip safety.

once i get my workbench setup, i'll probably dive in and checker the front strap and some other things.

Big_Grumpy
12-22-2010, 23:28
http://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/3321/900412519/wm_1361499.jpg

MD357
12-23-2010, 01:12
THanks!!!!

it's almost done, waiting for sights and hammer.
Less than $200 in parts.
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1134871228_JFzkQ-L.jpg


Great job on GS blend. :cool:

ShakyDave
12-23-2010, 14:54
I really like my Kimber Super Carry Custom. Shoots really well, like all the Kimbers I've run across, it's lightweight with the alloy frame, and the Tru-Glo sights are easy to pick up. The melted frame feels REALLY good in my hand. Really really really really good. It's not as heavy as my Colt five-inchers, and it feels really good in my hand. The sight radius is longer than my three inchers, and the grip feels really, really good in my hand.

Chris Derrick
12-23-2010, 18:07
Ok guys I just checked back with ya and man thanks for the replies! I went to local gun places around here put hands on Colt's, Springfields, STI's, Kimbers alloy and not, and from that selection I love the way the Kimbers feel especially the alloy 5'' stuff. I really want to stay with 5'' barrels and they had a Raptor Kimber that was just bad ass! Now I still have not put hands on Dan Wesson or Les Baer but also understand they are more still like to feel them. Now where is best online places to find one of these for a steal? lol Thanks and keep em coming! Chris Derrick

Hokie1911
12-23-2010, 18:12
Baer > DW > Kimber. You get what you pay for. :thumbsup:

T-Rod45
12-23-2010, 18:41
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/wm_19026-1.jpg

BUY ME! BUY MEEE!

thecableguy
12-23-2010, 18:55
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/wm_19026-1.jpg

BUY ME! BUY MEEE!

:rofl::rofl:

wmspdi
12-23-2010, 19:02
I already voted with my dollars. My non-railed AK TRP was $1,000 used, and at this time last year it was a good deal. A new copy will cost you a few hundred more.

txleapd
12-23-2010, 21:03
An STI Ranger II... I don't need another Trojan.

9mm+p
12-24-2010, 09:32
Springfield Micro Compact 45 w light rail... (soon to come)

matt c
12-24-2010, 12:54
I like the Kimber Pro CDPII. I am not 1911 knowledgeable though.

Donzi Gt250
12-25-2010, 18:04
Kimber Raptor Stainless Pro II

oldman101946
12-25-2010, 18:48
My suggestion is based on owning and shooting many of the brands listed.

I would go with a recently produced full size S&W 1911. Years ago, that would not have been my choice.

S&W has came a long way and offers a gun equalling a custom for the price of a production gun. They are now extremely durable, highly accurate and very high quality.

GlockRik
12-25-2010, 18:59
In the $1000 range, I think the Trojan would be hard to beat. Have had mine 6 years and not a minute of buyers remorse. Of the ones you list, probably the Colt.

With that said, my next purchase will be a S&W ES.

FM12
12-27-2010, 12:55
S&W sku 108284. Everything u need, nothing u dont. Mine is 100% reliable, stainless and Gold Cup accurate+!

Will-21
12-27-2010, 13:42
Kimber Custom TLE II 5"

TSAX
01-03-2011, 04:38
Check out these Kimbers they are some really good quality 1911s.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/

mes228
01-03-2011, 09:09
Used Les Baer TRS, look hard and you'll be close at $1,000

Rinspeed
01-03-2011, 10:49
Used Les Baer TRS, look hard and you'll be close at $1,000





Next time you come across one for $1,000 let me know and I'll give you a nice finders fee. :wavey:

quantico
01-03-2011, 12:34
Ok that Remington is killing me. Is that an original one ??? or is there some repo that I am not aware of ??? The classic lines are so beautiful.... I can hear it calling me.....

thecableguy
01-03-2011, 12:40
Ok that Remington is killing me. Is that an original one ??? or is there some repo that I am not aware of ??? The classic lines are so beautiful.... I can hear it calling me.....

http://www.1911r1.com/
Newer one they introduced.

Cobra64
01-03-2011, 17:07
Can't drink The STI cool aid yet those guns are not forged crappy sights for a carry gun and finish is like you did it with a marker.

I could never pick up a gun called "Trojan." If I did, I'd have to go wash my hands. :rofl:

TSAX
01-03-2011, 20:51
I could never pick up a gun called "Trojan." If I did, I'd have to go wash my hands. :rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

Classic!