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FLIPPER 348
12-25-2010, 20:42
The 1911 can be field stripped using internal parts as tools.



I would 'assume' all 1911 fans who have been around a while would know this. My lovely better 1/2 is pulling a shift at the ER on this fine Christmas Day so I invited some of the boys over this afternoon to watch a little basketball and we started talking guns. Two of them have been around 1911s for quite a while. One of them brought a 1911 and a new trigger and wanted to swap it out. The Laker game was a bust so I cleared a bit of the coffee table and went to work. He brought a small punch and a tiny screwdriver. I mentioned that these were not needed to get the trigger out and was met with a bit of skepticism.

So for those of you who are not familiar with the tools contained in the 1911:

- the thumb-safety axel is used to push out the MSH pin and remove the firing pin retainer/stop
-- the firing pin is used to push out the sear and hammer retaining pins
--- the bent tab on the sear spring is used to remove the mag release


The grips are still firmly but I'm sure JMB had the solution for that planned.

Quack
12-25-2010, 21:12
Yep, one of the reasons people swap out FLGR and the hex grip screws for flat screws. No tools needed to strip it.

Quack
12-25-2010, 21:14
You can also use a standard magazine to press down on the spring plug to rotate the bushing, as long as its not super tight.

Quack
12-25-2010, 21:18
Now let's see the glockers counter that. :rofl:

FLIPPER 348
12-25-2010, 21:19
You can also use a standard magazine to press down on the spring plug to rotate the bushing, as long as its not super tight.

.......nother fun fact, thanks!!

Is there a built in feature to remove the grip screws??

AZ Husker
12-25-2010, 21:21
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/toolbox.htm

seanmac45
12-25-2010, 21:26
The front protruding lip at the base of a standard GI mag was suitable for stock screw removal.

FLIPPER 348
12-25-2010, 21:28
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/toolbox.htm


Awesome, that is the coolest, most uber-1911-geek webpage I have ever seen.

Quack
12-25-2010, 21:32
.......nother fun fact, thanks!!

Is there a built in feature to remove the grip screws??

For the original flat grip screws, use the bottom of the sear spring, as well as the mag base or the rim of a 45 case.

MD357
12-25-2010, 21:37
Wait.... wait.... so you're telling me you don't need a 49pc craftsman set to field strip this antiquated, unreliable platform that somehow made it 70+ years in military service??!!

Hokie1911
12-25-2010, 21:41
wait.... Wait.... So you're telling me you don't need a 49pc craftsman set to field strip this antiquated, unreliable platform that somehow made it 70+ years in military service??!!

p-e-r-f-e-c-t-i-o-n

CitizenOfDreams
12-25-2010, 21:55
Now let's see the glockers counter that. :rofl:

A Glock does not need to be taken apart, just load and shoot! :tongueout:

FLIPPER 348
12-25-2010, 22:06
Hey, creepy avatar dude, there is nothing in this thread relating to Glocks!

CitizenOfDreams
12-25-2010, 23:15
Hey, creepy avatar dude, there is nothing in this thread relating to Glocks!

Sorry to spoil your thread dude, I was replying to this:

Originally Posted by Quack http://glocktalk.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16523955#post16523955)
Now let's see the glockers counter that. :rofl:

thecableguy
12-25-2010, 23:34
A Glock does not need to be taken apart, just load and shoot! :tongueout:

That's because they do it all by themselves.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2435/glock21kb1sh.jpg :tongueout:


Sorry Flipper I don't want to go off topic but I couldn't resist.

Uncle T-bone
12-26-2010, 06:14
[QUOTE=FLIPPER 348;16523803]The 1911 can be field stripped using internal parts as tools.

Hmmm....I'm thinking a 1911 and any other auto can be "field stripped" without using any internal parts. Doesn't field stripping get you to the internal parts?

carguy2244
12-26-2010, 10:00
Now let's see the glockers counter that. :rofl:

My Glock never needs stripping.

Your turn.

Quack
12-26-2010, 10:05
My Glock never needs stripping.

Your turn.

If you want to replace any of the internals (like in the original post) how would you do it then?

MD357
12-26-2010, 10:13
If you want to replace any of the internals (like in the original post) how would you do it then?

It really depends on which recall....err.... "Upgrade" the glock would need.

thecableguy
12-26-2010, 10:15
It really depends on which recall....err.... "Upgrade" the glock would need.

:rofl:

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 10:31
It really depends on which recall....err.... "Upgrade" the glock would need.

Yeah, it takes a few generations to get "perfection" just right. :whistling:

Nickpisp
12-26-2010, 10:40
Another fun fact about 1911's, they blow up tanks.


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/Crashpanic/1911.gif

thecableguy
12-26-2010, 10:42
Another fun fact about 1911's, they blow up tanks.


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/Crashpanic/1911.gif
:rock: :rock:

carguy2244
12-26-2010, 11:15
If you want to replace any of the internals (like in the original post) how would you do it then?

My oldest Glock has over 300,000 rounds through it. I guess when it doesn't function, I'll take it to my Glock armorer, and he'll replace whatever needs replacing. Until that time comes, I'll just shoot it with the old internals it came with from the factory.

MD357
12-26-2010, 11:33
My oldest Glock has over 300,000 rounds through it. I guess when it doesn't function, I'll take it to my Glock armorer, and he'll replace whatever needs replacing. Until that time comes, I'll just shoot it with the old internals it came with from the factory.

Wow.... it just got really thick in here. A supposed 300K glock is something of note, please post some detailed pics.

AZ Husker
12-26-2010, 12:18
What a shame that an interesting thread can quickly deteriorate into a 1911 vs Glock fiasco.

thecableguy
12-26-2010, 12:24
What a shame that an interesting thread can quickly deteriorate into a 1911 vs Glock fiasco.

It's all in good form. No harm intended.

Hokie1911
12-26-2010, 12:27
Another fun fact about 1911's, they blow up tanks.


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/Crashpanic/1911.gif

Nickpisp for the WIN. :bowdown:

Nakanokalronin
12-26-2010, 12:31
and if you have to have some sort of separate tool than you need no more than this...

http://www.hhbcomilitarycollectables.com/images/homefront/m-1911-tool.jpg

Rinspeed
12-26-2010, 12:36
What a shame that an interesting thread can quickly deteriorate into a 1911 vs Glock fiasco.




This forum never used to be like that. :whistling:

FLIPPER 348
12-26-2010, 13:13
[QUOTE=FLIPPER 348;16523803]
Hmmm....I'm thinking a 1911 and any other auto can be "field stripped" without using any internal parts. Doesn't field stripping get you to the internal parts?

It can, but it would require extra tools. The field stripping provides the tools as you go to complete the job.

Eagle22
12-26-2010, 13:33
What do you mean there is no difference between a 9mm, 10mm, 357, .40 and a .45?

Another fun fact about 1911's, they blow up tanks.


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/Crashpanic/1911.gif

:tongueout: Cool Vid

Just kidding

nastytrigger
12-26-2010, 16:30
and if you have to have some sort of separate tool than you need no more than this...

http://www.hhbcomilitarycollectables.com/images/homefront/m-1911-tool.jpg

OK, where can I get one?

GVFlyer
12-26-2010, 19:16
A Glock does not need to be taken apart, just load and shoot! :tongueout:

A Glock is the Toyota Carolla of handguns. I drive BMWs and shoot 1911s.

;)

Angry Fist
12-26-2010, 19:18
Now let's see the glockers counter that. :rofl:
I keep my MTAC allen wrench in my wallet... great glock tool! :tongueout:

Oaklands
12-26-2010, 20:58
No doubt, my 1911's are my favorite guns.

bluelineman
12-26-2010, 22:50
I knew about using a magazine to help remove the bushing but not the rest of that info. Makes sense. Thanks for posting.

Nakanokalronin
12-27-2010, 22:28
OK, where can I get one?
Sorry for the delay.
With markings
http://e-sarcoinc.com/colt1911wwiitakedowntoolomarkedstanleyg11190riggiparkerized.aspx

Without
http://e-sarcoinc.com/451911screwdriverandtakedowntool.aspx

SiberianErik
12-28-2010, 02:12
If you were field stripping your 1911 in a trench or in the dark, say you lost the end cap to the recoil spring and thus need something to replace it so you could attaxh the bushing back on... a spent .45 casing would suffice as they are the same size :shocked: I tried it and it works !! pure genius JMB was.

MajorD
12-28-2010, 13:33
to correct the post just a bit - it is a full detail strip that can be done on the original 1911 design without tools. that Mr Browning was a genius

HAIL CAESAR
12-28-2010, 16:11
I can strip a 1911 down to bare bones with no tools. The only thing I can't take off is the link.

If the bushing is too tight to do with fingers...I fix that.

Uncle T-bone
12-28-2010, 18:15
to correct the post just a bit - it is a full detail strip that can be done on the original 1911 design without tools. that Mr Browning was a genius

OK, I'm confused...a 1911 or any other auto can be "Field stripped" to the receiver, slide, barrel, recoil spring and magazine, then re-assembled without any tools or internal parts.

"Detail stripping" is further complete disassembly of the weapon. This requires an extra tool(s) for most autos. But the 1911 can use it's internal parts, once it is field stripped.

SIGShooter
12-28-2010, 19:02
This thread has some interesting information in it.

I didn't know that I could use the parts of the 1911 (As designed) to detail strip my gun.

Thank you for the informative thread!

You learn something new everyday.

INJoker
12-28-2010, 19:24
If you want to replace any of the internals (like in the original post) how would you do it then?

I use 1911 internals to detail-strip my Glock...
:cool: :rofl:

Quack
12-28-2010, 19:48
:animlol:

ctfireman
12-28-2010, 22:34
The first time i stripped one of mine to bare bones i didn't have a teeny screwdriver to remove the mag release & used the sear spring, i thought it was a coincidence!

HAIL CAESAR
12-28-2010, 22:37
The first time i stripped one of mine to bare bones i didn't have a teeny screwdriver to remove the mag release & used the sear spring, i thought it was a coincidence!

ME too! I thought I had discovered something, till the Old Man shot me down.:rofl:

MD357
12-28-2010, 23:36
Wow.... it just got really thick in here. A supposed 300K glock is something of note, please post some detailed pics.


http://clothesbythehamper.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/tumbleweed-through-ghost-town.jpg