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asiparks
12-30-2010, 00:11
or something like that...
even though racking the slide sounds like a large mountain of coffee cans falling over, it got through 550 rounds without a single hitch...
It's a bit like a Landrover Defender, inelegant, but jolly effective.

The trigger is excellent, crisp with very little take up. The ridged face of the shoe s horrible and uncomfortable though, but options are about zero, unless i can score a Kimber Pro Ten or BP style replacement. There's a fair few other sharp edges on the plastic that will be getting hit with a file while i'm at it.
Although the frame looks very bulky, it fits into my HBE and Andrews holsters snuggly...

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN2610/web.jpg
http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCN2616/web.jpg

14 rounds of 45 with about the same grip circumference as a regular 1911....Although you could argue that a 2X4 and a Coke can have the same circumference too, but they feel a bit different in the hand. It certainly feels better than a G21 though...

AA#5
12-30-2010, 00:13
So you're sayin' it's more reliable than a Gen. 4 Glock?

asiparks
12-30-2010, 00:16
So you're sayin' it's more reliable than a Gen. 4 Glock?

how could i, or anyone, claim that about a specific gun ? Your gen 4 Glock ? One in a case down the road ? A gaggle of Glocks ? Your question makes zero sense.

Annnnnd, I'm not sure where I said anything of the sort anyway.....i said i went through 550 rounds of assorted 45 with no FTF's, FTE's, brass hitting me in the head or anything else untoward occuring.

Actually, f$%k it, yes, i am stating that my Kimber is more reliable than any gen 4 glock !!! Ever and with 17% less chance of taking off your index finger and thumb.....

oily_oink
12-30-2010, 01:43
Actually, f$%k it, yes, i am stating that my Kimber is more reliable than any gen 4 glock !!! Ever and with 17% less chance of taking off your index finger and thumb.....

Right on! :rofl:

BayouGlocker
12-30-2010, 02:37
Very nice... Not as pretty as steel, but obviously it gets the job done.

And I would take offense to the Glock comments.... But mine is Gen 3. :)

bac1023
12-30-2010, 05:19
Congrats! :cool:

rsxr22
12-30-2010, 07:55
That is a really bold statement. Especially using a company with lots of QC issues as an example to Glock.

Hokie1911
12-30-2010, 08:04
Cool! :thumbsup:

Deployment Solu
12-30-2010, 08:39
That is a really bold statement. Especially using a company with lots and lots of QC issues as an example to Glock.


There, fixed it for ya!!!!

Jim S.
12-30-2010, 09:36
That is a really bold statement. Especially using a company with lots of QC issues as an example to Glock.

I think he was giving a response to a question that deserved no response.
Lighten up, he wasn't serious.
read his first response and you will see how he really felt about this question.

El_Ron1
12-30-2010, 09:57
Saints Preserve Us!

TTPower
12-30-2010, 10:06
what model is that kimber? i checked the kimber website and can't seem to find that specific model

Spats McGee
12-30-2010, 11:10
It says "Polymer Pro Carry STS" on the slide, but I can't find it on their site, either.

asiparks
12-30-2010, 11:21
perhaps it's because I'm a Brit and inplausibly handsome, that my humor doesn't always translate....hence the thread title and pithy reposte....sorry for the confusion...

The gun is a 2nd gen Kimber Poly Pro Stainless from about 2000/01, part of a collaboration with BUL of Israel. Bul sold them under the name "M5" an then after their relationship with Kimber dissolved, had Charles Daly import them for some years. I have never found a single example of a Daly imported one however.
Kimber developed their own poly framed hi caps, the BP ("Basic Pistol") which was selling for under $600 and the almost identical stainless slided "Ten" series that sold for $200+ more.

It feels similar in the hand to the SVI/STI hi caps, other than the polymer feels "softer". Way nicer (IMHO), than the Springfield or Para Ord hi caps.
Mags hold 14 rounds and are, luckily, available and cheapish at $29.

It's unrefined, but as accurate (and reliable) as any other randomly selected Kimber.
I used to own an Ultra Ten II. read all about it. (http://forum.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=57331) but i sold it shortly after.

cowboywannabe
12-30-2010, 11:37
when glock meets browning......two worlds collide.

Hokie1911
12-30-2010, 11:53
Kind of a poor-man's WC SpecOps9....but it .45. I dig it.

MD357
12-30-2010, 11:54
For those looking for one, they don't make those any more I believe.

carloglock19
12-30-2010, 13:04
Looks nice!

ctfireman
12-31-2010, 10:40
Kimber actually made a polymer frame 1911? I had no idea.

cole
12-31-2010, 13:03
Looks nice. But, having lots of plastic in a 1911 does not make it a Glock. Not a bad thing necessary, just my opinion. IMO, the Glock will always run more reliably overall. Pristine care, pristine conditions, they'll both run the same. However, the Glock is more forgiving. That said, I prefer the 1911 much of the time... because I just like it... just because.

quantico
01-03-2011, 17:22
IMO, the Glock will always run more reliably overall. Pristine care, pristine conditions, they'll both run the same. However, the Glock is more forgiving. That said, I prefer the 1911 much of the time... because I just like it... just because.
I find the 1911 more forgiving in many areas. None of the 1911s that I know of were recalled for frame rails falling out of the frame. I don't understand the blind faith in glock

Quack
01-03-2011, 17:34
IMO, the Glock will always run more reliably overall. Pristine care, pristine conditions, they'll both run the same. However, the Glock is more forgiving. That said, I prefer the 1911 much of the time... because I just like it... just because.

not always true.
in 2 different pistol classes polymer guns had stoppages, while the 1911's kept running. one of those classes was outdoors in the cold/rain/mud.

quantico
01-03-2011, 17:40
Thatis what I am talking about

Quack
01-03-2011, 17:46
one of the Glocks had the rear slide plate slide down just far enough to disable the gun, but in the low light it looked fine. after he came off the line, it took 5 guys and about 10 minutes of looking at it to notice what the problem was.

this just shows that anything mechanical can and will fail.

tnhawk
01-04-2011, 10:44
... That said, I prefer the 1911 much of the time... because I just like it... just because.

because -

"The 1911 was the design given by God to us through John M. Browning that represents the epitome of what a killing tool needs to be. It was true in 1911 and is true now." - Col. Robert J Coates, USMC

PlasticGuy
01-04-2011, 11:03
...the Glock will always run more reliably overall. Pristine care, pristine conditions, they'll both run the same. However, the Glock is more forgiving...
That has not been my experience. I'm issued a Gen 4 Glock every day at work, and I trust every one of my 1911's more. Glock is screwing the pooch right now, and 1911's are not as finicky as many would have you believe.

frank_drebin
01-04-2011, 11:24
If I'm not mistaken that gun is a BUL design with Kimber on it. They sold in the states as a Charles Daly.

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Charles%20Daly%20Carbines/IMG_5540%201028%20WEVO.jpg