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rich n
12-30-2010, 20:44
This would be my first 1911. I have a Kimber on order but now i'm not sure when it will get here. The Colt is available now if I want to switch for a few bucks more. Any feedback would help. I have shot a Custom II at the range and liked it but never tried a Colt.

TKR Reptiles
12-30-2010, 20:45
Stick with the Kimber... It is a much better firearm...

kobel1up
12-30-2010, 20:51
Check out buckeye outdoors on the kimber, it is also know as vances. You may find a better price on the gun. The custom II is next on my list.

bac1023
12-30-2010, 21:23
The Custom II is a great 1911 for the price and will shoot at least as good as the Colt, but the Colt is the better quality gun overall.

It will also hold its value better than the Kimber.

TKR Reptiles
12-30-2010, 21:31
The Custom II is a great 1911 for the price and will shoot at least as good as the Colt, but the Colt is the better quality gun overall.

It will also hold its value better than the Kimber.

I have been corrected... :)

bac1023
12-30-2010, 21:47
I have been corrected... :)

LOL, no you haven't. :)

I actually like Kimber better than Colt overall. I was simply saying that the Colt uses less MIM and will hold its value.

I have always fired Kimbers better and I carry one each day. I prefer Colts as base guns for custom builds.

Cerebrus
12-30-2010, 21:49
Out of the two I would stick with the Kimber.. spend the extry on ammo..

Hokie1911
12-30-2010, 22:02
Neither. Get a Springfield RO. :supergrin:

HAIL CAESAR
12-30-2010, 22:12
The Custom II is a great 1911 for the price and will shoot at least as good as the Colt, but the Colt is the better quality gun overall.

It will also hold its value better than the Kimber.

Pretty much what I was going to say.....but you'd be hard pressed to screw up buying either of those guns. Also look at the TLE.

Hokie1911
12-30-2010, 22:14
Pretty much what I was going to say.....but you'd be hard pressed to screw up buying either of those guns. Also look at the TLE.

Yeah, but TLE price = Trojan price, and I'd take the Trojan over either of those every day of the week and twice on Sunday. :supergrin:

HAIL CAESAR
12-30-2010, 22:18
Yeah, but TLE price = Trojan price, and I'd take the Trojan over either of those every day of the week and twice on Sunday. :supergrin:

Damn....you got me!!!:wavey:

Hokie1911
12-30-2010, 22:23
Don't get me wrong...if I HAD to buy a Kimber....the TLE would be it. I'd just put my $1k into something else.

silversport
12-31-2010, 06:37
The Custom II is a great 1911 for the price and will shoot at least as good as the Colt, but the Colt is the better quality gun overall.

It will also hold its value better than the Kimber.

this...but a Colt's Combat Elite for a few bucks over the Custom II???...get the Colt's (...and I like Kimber but a few bucks difference...wow!)

Bill

G27RR
12-31-2010, 08:28
Based on my experiences with fit, finish and reliability with my Super Carry Pro vs my Combat Elite, I'd take the Colt over the Kimber.

TKR Reptiles
12-31-2010, 09:07
LOL, no you haven't. :)

I actually like Kimber better than Colt overall. I was simply saying that the Colt uses less MIM and will hold its value.

I have always fired Kimbers better and I carry one each day. I prefer Colts as base guns for custom builds.

Well that is what I meant... I said that the Kimber was a better built product, which I was wrong... :)

JRWnTN
12-31-2010, 09:31
The Colt XSE models made in the last couple of years are excellent. Quality control has improved. The chance of getting a lemon is extremely small. The ones I've seen at the range have functioned flawlessly.

rich n
12-31-2010, 09:53
this...but a Colt's Combat Elite for a few bucks over the Custom II???...get the Colt's (...and I like Kimber but a few bucks difference...wow!)

Bill
Hey guys thanks for the input! The Kimber is $805 the Colt is $885 so maybe a little more than a few but at this point $80 isnt a deal breaker.

silversport
12-31-2010, 10:29
for that...if the Colt's works for you...that's what I would get...and I have a Kimber Custom II with no issues a well as a Colt's XSE Government (both customized with nearly the same type of work)...but you really won't go wrong with either...around here just a regular XSE Government would be the price you quoted...and as bac noted...better innards on the Colt's than the Kimber...

Bill

Nickpisp
12-31-2010, 13:38
Hey guys thanks for the input! The Kimber is $805 the Colt is $885 so maybe a little more than a few but at this point $80 isnt a deal breaker.

That's pretty good. I paid $950 for my CE. I really like my CE especially since I had the front strap checkered.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/917971056_photobucket_38354_.jpg

cdunn
12-31-2010, 14:44
I'd get the colt,I've owned a kimber and cannot recommend one to (stock) to anyone.

Jason D
12-31-2010, 18:17
If it's not a Colt, it's only a copy.

Mayhem like Me
12-31-2010, 19:08
The Custom II is a great 1911 for the price and will shoot at least as good as the Colt, but the Colt is the better quality gun overall.

It will also hold its value better than the Kimber.

I have to agree with the Colt I have a Combat Elite new version and it is bulletproof..Much better overall parts than the Kimber.

Quack
12-31-2010, 19:16
If it's not a Colt, it's only a better copy.

fixed it for you :supergrin:

Quack
12-31-2010, 19:17
i'd grab a Colt over a Kimber.

Goldendog Redux
12-31-2010, 19:29
Get the gun that speaks to you loudest.

I would advise Colt however for reasons already stated.

thecableguy
12-31-2010, 19:33
The only Colt that I wouldn't mind owning is this one.
http://www.ozarkguns.com/anew/Colt_Series70.jpg
I haven't seen this one in person yet but looking at the pics I like it. It is probably the only Colt that does anything for me.

Agent6-3/8
01-01-2011, 11:44
Colt without question.

Screaming .357G
01-01-2011, 11:58
Only Kimbers I like are the TLE models....Cant stand the front cocking serations though. I have had far better luck with the colts out of the box and the colt uses better parts. The colt will be looser but it will work when others fail.

bac1023
01-01-2011, 13:35
Yeah, but TLE price = Trojan price, and I'd take the Trojan over either of those every day of the week and twice on Sunday. :supergrin:

See, that's why I don't recommend the TLE. The price puts it too close to the Trojan.

bac1023
01-01-2011, 13:41
LOL, no you haven't. :)

I actually like Kimber better than Colt overall. I was simply saying that the Colt uses less MIM and will hold its value.

I have always fired Kimbers better and I carry one each day. I prefer Colts as base guns for custom builds.

Well that is what I meant... I said that the Kimber was a better built product, which I was wrong... :)

Well, they're fit better than the Colt, in my opinion. The Kimber is tighter and, for me, more accurate. That could mean they're built better to many people.

What I said, was the Colt uses better quality parts and, in theory, may outlive the Kimber. Again, that's in theory. I do know for a fact that the Colt will hold its value much better.

Jason D
01-01-2011, 16:48
fixed it for you :supergrin:

I would say the don't make them like they used to..
You would think with CNC machines they would be better than guns made even 25 years ago.

My S70 Gold Cup it pretty much what every other gun gets measured against.
The Kimbers of a decade ago are every but it's equal, even surpassing it in some respects.

I would take a Series 1 Kimber over any new Colt any day.
A Series II would be a toss up. I'd rather have the Colt.

Nakanokalronin
01-01-2011, 19:43
I have a Colt XSE Rail gun and will be picking up a Colt Combat Elite XSE series tomorrow. My rail gun has been flawless and honestly the undercut trigger guard makes the Colt feel just a little better than my other 1911s. I have a Kimber Eclipse in 45acp and although its a great 1911 I would say to get the Colt.

I actually passed on a TRP for the Combat Elite. The TRP was about $600 more but the fact was the slide to frame fit was like a solid piece of metal. The Combat Elite had a little bit of play just the way it should be. Despite that gun writers and manufactures want you to believe the tight slide to play fit equals quality and accuracy, the only components that need to be well fit for accuracy is the slide and bushing fit together and then those components fit to the slide and frame. A bit of slide to frame movement is good for reliability.

jrs93accord
01-01-2011, 20:00
I like my Kimber Custom IIs.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/004.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/002-7.jpg

BFN
01-01-2011, 20:58
A lot of good comments are made from owners of the Colt Combat Elite. Mine has had no functional issues and is accurate with the match barrel. A good carry gun.

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab156/nysoto/coltR.jpg

TSAX
01-03-2011, 04:15
The Kimber Custom II is one of the smoother shooting 1911s that was under $1000 I have shot.

ijacek
01-03-2011, 18:09
My vote is for COLT all the way!