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Nickpisp
01-05-2011, 20:14
Decided to try a flat trigger. It's my first trigger install and isn't perfect but I'm happy with it so far.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/917971056_photobucket_43164_.jpg

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 20:16
:ack:

spookshack
01-05-2011, 20:17
:rofl:

Nickpisp
01-05-2011, 20:21
:ack:

Only 15 more to go! :whistling:

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 20:28
Only 15 more to go! :whistling:

He's gone upscale too bro. Better start buying SACS to catch up. :rofl:

Nickpisp
01-05-2011, 20:31
He's gone upscale too bro. Better start buying SACS to catch up. :rofl:

I don't own a Baer so I thought I was close. :rofl:

Greyhoundman
01-05-2011, 20:39
What is the attraction to flat triggers? Is it just aesthetics or a longer trigger reach?

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 20:51
What is the attraction to flat triggers? Is it just aesthetics or a longer trigger reach?

Consistent pull no matter where you pull from the face of the trigger.....according to Quack. I have shot a bunch of his and I didn't particularly care for the feel. Lots of guys love them. Just not my cup of tea.

Quack
01-05-2011, 20:56
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=295141

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 20:59
Consistent pull no matter where you pull from the face of the trigger.....according to Quack. I have shot a bunch of his and I didn't particularly care for the feel. Lots of guys love them. Just not my cup of tea.

That is also true of a curved trigger, the movement of the trigger face is incidental to the actual movement of the trigger bow which is captured in a channel keeping its movement in a linear plane. No matter where you place your finger on the trigger face the bow only moves one way- rearward in a straight line.

The flat faced trigger is for looks only, and like hokie..not my thing.

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:00
That is also true of a curved trigger, the movement of the trigger face is incidental to the actual movement of the trigger bow which is captured in a channel keeping its movement in a linear plane. No matter where you place your finger on the trigger face the bow only moves one way- rearward in a straight line.

The flat faced trigger is for looks only, and like hokie..not my thing.

false...

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:03
The "better" feel is a mind game....................

Of course this does not apply if you are pulling the trigger with a feathered ducks wing.....:supergrin:

bac1023
01-05-2011, 21:03
Interesting

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:04
not a mind game when one's trigger finger isn't centered or perpendicular to a curved trigger.

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:05
false...

the laws of mechanics say otherwise..................

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 21:05
false...

It is my thing? :headscratch:

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:06
did you look at the link i posted?

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:11
The trigger is captured, it can only move one way (actually two ways) straight back or straight forward, there is no way the placement of the moving appendage on the trigger face alters the movement of the bow which moves the sear which releases the hammer. there is no pivot point of the trigger so you can't improve leverage by placing your wing on a different spot on the trigger face.

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 21:13
Hilton is really high on the flat trigger and he's a dude that knows what he's talking about. I'm pretty confident he is not saying this just to sell more triggers...

"As already noted, the flat trigger provides a consistent feel wherever your finger may hit the trigger. Since the 1911 trigger moves straight to the rear, it makes a lot of sense for the trigger to present a surface that moves the same way. The flat trigger concept on a 1911 is not new, my competition guns from the early 90's all had them. What we have done is to revamp the execution to make it more suited to duty/carry use. The full width trigger bow is very durable, and the fixed hidden overtravel stop will not wander once the trigger is set up."

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:13
not a mind game when one's trigger finger isn't centered or perpendicular to a curved trigger.

that still does not change the plane of movement of bow

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:15
Hilton is really high on the flat trigger and he's a dude that knows what he's talking about. I'm pretty confident he is not saying this just to sell more triggers...

"As already noted, the flat trigger provides a consistent feel wherever your finger may hit the trigger. Since the 1911 trigger moves straight to the rear, it makes a lot of sense for the trigger to present a surface that moves the same way. The flat trigger concept on a 1911 is not new, my competition guns from the early 90's all had them. What we have done is to revamp the execution to make it more suited to duty/carry use. The full width trigger bow is very durable, and the fixed hidden overtravel stop will not wander once the trigger is set up."

How can you trust a guy named after a hotel and a potato ? :supergrin:

He isn't keen on the external extractor of the S&W 1911 either. I have one from 2004 with 1000's of rounds w/o any of the problems he predicted. I was a firearms instructor and 'smith for a large PD that exclusively used gen 3 S&W 59 & 45 series guns with external extractors...the extractors were never a problem.

lawdog734
01-05-2011, 21:17
Once you go quack......

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:17
The trigger is captured, it can only move one way (actually two ways) straight back or straight forward, there is no way the placement of the moving appendage on the trigger face alters the movement of the bow which moves the sear which releases the hammer. there is no pivot point of the trigger so you can't improve leverage by placing your wing on a different spot on the trigger face.

i should have wrote consistant trigger "feel" in that thread, instead of "pull". yes, the trigger pull is straight back, but if the finger isn't centered and perpendicular, the feel will be different.

since the trigger pull is straight back, then what is the purpose of a curved trigger since it's not a pivoting like a revolver? :tongueout:

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:19
that still does not change the plane of movement of bow

doesn't change the plane of movement, but forces the finger to do something it doesn't want to to. so i'm pressing charges on curved triggers for raping my finger :rofl:

Hokie1911
01-05-2011, 21:22
How can you trust a guy named after a hotel and a potato ? :supergrin:


...or buy a Fusion from a guy who's initials are BS? :whistling:

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:24
i should have wrote consistant trigger "feel" in that thread, instead of "pull". yes, the trigger pull is straight back, but if the finger isn't centered and perpendicular, the feel will be different.

since the trigger pull is straight back, then what is the purpose of a curved trigger since it's not a pivoting like a revolver? :tongueout:

CAUSE JMB said so


I'll go along with feel since it is a non quantitative descriptor.

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:25
ehhh...what does he know.

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:28
ehhh...what does he know.

.........not much, From God's mouth to JMB's ears :wow:

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:29
Glocks are better anyways.

rgregoryb
01-05-2011, 21:34
Glocks are better anyways.

never fail, never break,never loose value and make anyone invincible....plus when you tire of them they can be recycled into EasyBake ovens.

Quack
01-05-2011, 21:36
i've seen them fail.
i've seen them appreciate in value when i bought low and sold high.
able to be modified with a dremel, soldering iron and a crayon :animlol:

youngAR
01-05-2011, 22:23
Congrats on converting over to the dark side. Now if we could only convert some of the non-believers :)

gruntmedik
01-06-2011, 21:40
This thread quacks me up. :rofl:

GVFlyer
01-06-2011, 22:30
What is the attraction to flat triggers? Is it just aesthetics or a longer trigger reach?

They're orthopedic triggers for people with deformed fingers, palsy or muscular coordination issues.

;)

20South
01-06-2011, 22:33
They're orthopedic triggers for people with deformed fingers, palsy or muscular coordination issues.

;)

My grandma's has a silicone insert....:tongueout:

BuckyP
01-07-2011, 05:46
Once you go quack......

:rofl::rofl:

They're orthopedic triggers for people with deformed fingers, palsy or muscular coordination issues.

;)

I know you say in jest, but there is partial truth to that. The friend that introduced me to IPSC shooter was also all "Quacked" up over flat triggers. Turns out his trigger finger was quite crooked, and he would actually catch the bottom corner of a curved trigger making it quite uncomfortable to shoot. My trigger finger catches the trigger dead center, so I have no preference either way.

knedrgr
01-07-2011, 07:37
This thread quacks me up. :rofl:

:animlol: Nicely played.

BayouGlocker
01-07-2011, 10:40
This thread quacks me up. :rofl:

+1 :wavey: :supergrin:

rgregoryb
01-07-2011, 19:02
This thread quacks me up. :rofl:

I've been trying to duck it for a while

Jim S.
01-08-2011, 08:33
My finger is not flat so the trigger should not be flat.
The concave curvature of the normal 1911 trigger fits the convex curvature of my finger.
Makes sense doesn't it?
Not only that...
If the flat trigger somehow was better I just cannot get over the weird look it gives the 1911 which is mostly rounds and curves throughout.
Looks out of place to me.
I would think a flat trigger would look better on a Glock since it is about as blocky looking and a squared off slab of a gun that you can get.

Spats McGee
01-08-2011, 12:03
I've come to think of them as Quackutriggers.

Quack
01-08-2011, 12:03
:animlol: