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ajstrider
01-13-2011, 17:22
I am looking into getting a 1911, and I want to try and get an all purpose one so I am considering one with the rail mount on it for mounting my Surefire flashlight for home protection. So I have a few questions for you guys who own both a 1911 with rails and a regular one.

How much wider do the rails make the gun, if any?

Do you have problems fitting them in holsters, I understand that they probably won't fit at all in a molded polymer holster unless it is meant for rail guns, but what about leather concealment holsters and such. Especially the Galco Concealable leather holster, I really enjoy carrying in that one, or maybe someone's Summer Special IWB style holster.

Thanks guys.

Hokie1911
01-13-2011, 17:31
The Dawson Rail is your friend. :thumbsup:

PlayboyPenguin
01-13-2011, 17:35
I am looking into getting a 1911, and I want to try and get an all purpose one so I am considering one with the rail mount on it for mounting my Surefire flashlight for home protection. So I have a few questions for you guys who own both a 1911 with rails and a regular one.

How much wider do the rails make the gun, if any?

Do you have problems fitting them in holsters, I understand that they probably won't fit at all in a molded polymer holster unless it is meant for rail guns, but what about leather concealment holsters and such. Especially the Galco Concealable leather holster, I really enjoy carrying in that one, or maybe someone's Summer Special IWB style holster.

Thanks guys.
A friend has the Kimber with a rail. It is a bit wider than my Kimber of the same size was without the rail but mainly just at the lower side of the slide. The overall width was the same. It did make it very hard for him to find a proper holster in stock. He had to settle for a more generic pancake style holster at the time until he could order one from online. I believe he got a leather IWB holster from Galco.

awpk03s
01-13-2011, 17:44
The dustcover is wider with the rail. However, there are plenty of holsters available for railed guns.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC02808.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03045.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03039.jpg

bac1023
01-13-2011, 18:34
The Dawson Rail is your friend. :thumbsup:

Yeah, they seem to be one of the least intrusive.

Hokie1911
01-13-2011, 18:47
Yeah, they seem to be one of the least intrusive.

Form and function. Keeps the lines of the front end without jacking it up with a bigass beefy dustcover. I don't care for most of the semi-custom shops' railed models as they look very "bolted on". SA easily has probably the best looking railed guns IMHO.

thecableguy
01-13-2011, 18:53
The dustcover is wider with the rail. However, there are plenty of holsters available for railed guns.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC02808.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03045.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03039.jpg

Info please?

GJ1981
01-13-2011, 18:58
The holster selection for a railed 1911 is pretty good, but there are some you'll be SOL on. I wanted another VM-II for my Dawson LR but was told they don't make them for it, and my standard MS is too tight to work.

I'm having John at 5-Shot make me a custom one-off holster for a little more than a Sparks, so you can get a great holster, but you may end up waiting.

I know Sparks does make a railed holster for the picatinny style for some reason.

Width, the Dawson will be the slimmest but will also hang down more than most built-in rails.

My experience with Galco is they are generally loose enough to where you shouldn't have a problem. I could fit my railed Pro in one of their non-rail holsters without any major problem.



That said, Railed 1911...don't mind if I do


<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/?action=view&amp;current=DSC00320.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/DSC00320.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/?action=view&amp;current=DSC00319.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/DSC00319.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Quack
01-13-2011, 19:14
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1150319290_96389-L.jpg

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1099073438_RFwCB-L.jpg

Hokie1911
01-13-2011, 19:19
That said, Railed 1911...don't mind if I do


<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/?action=view&amp;current=DSC00320.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/DSC00320.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/?action=view&amp;current=DSC00319.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/Nighthawk%20Enforcer/DSC00319.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Pure awesomeness bro. :thumbsup: :drool: :faint:

thecableguy
01-13-2011, 19:25
Pure awesomeness bro. :thumbsup: :drool: :faint:
I agree. :wow:

Ruggles
01-13-2011, 19:35
This is a temp solution that you could try instead. Has pretty good word of mouth from what I read.

http://ezine.m1911.org/Tick_frame.htm

firecatwilson
01-13-2011, 19:43
This is a temp solution that you could try instead. Has pretty good word of mouth from what I read.

http://ezine.m1911.org/Tick_frame.htm


Might just be me, but I threw up a bit in my mouth after seeing that...

thecableguy
01-13-2011, 19:49
This is a temp solution that you could try instead. Has pretty good word of mouth from what I read.

http://ezine.m1911.org/Tick_frame.htm

That looks horrible. :puking:

Ruggles
01-13-2011, 19:53
LOL I do not think it is built for looks but if you needed the rail temporary on a 1911 for some reason it makes a lot of sense. No drilling or modification needed and for a pretty cheap price.

You 1911 divas and your looks :rofl: I mean it looks way better than the duct tape I use to attach a light to my 1911.

firecatwilson
01-13-2011, 20:04
If ya want a 1911 with a rail, buy one.

These add-on rails just look like chrome some add on a 1985 mini-van to me.

But I am biased, I don't even like the looks of the dawson rail...

craig19
01-13-2011, 20:05
This is a temp solution that you could try instead. Has pretty good word of mouth from what I read.

http://ezine.m1911.org/Tick_frame.htm

It's pretty ugly, it would get you by in a pinch, but it looks like hell.

BlayGlock
01-13-2011, 20:18
I like my railed 1911. Try Raven Concealment for a holster.

glock2740
01-13-2011, 20:32
The dustcover is wider with the rail. However, there are plenty of holsters available for railed guns.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC02808.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03045.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03039.jpg
Good looking gun. What is it? Looks Nighthawkish. :dunno:

awpk03s
01-13-2011, 20:34
Info please?

Pistol is a Nighthawk Custom Enforcer Recon. The first holster is a C5 Leather Montana XLT, and the second is a Garret Industries Silent Thunder OWB holster.

thecableguy
01-13-2011, 20:36
Pistol is a Nighthawk Custom Enforcer Recon. The first holster is a C5 Leather Montana XLT, and the second is a Garret Industries Silent Thunder OWB holster.
That is probably one of the best looking NH I have ever seen.

awpk03s
01-13-2011, 20:44
That is probably one of the best looking NH I have ever seen.

Thanks. I love it. The IonBond finish really sets it off in my mind. I think I like the black grips better. It shoots really well also.

GJ1981
01-13-2011, 20:57
The IonBond finish really sets it off in my mind. I think I like the black grips better.

Sure does, did you have any oil on your pistol for those pics?

IB/DB is tricky to take photos of.

awpk03s
01-13-2011, 21:12
Yeah it was actually pretty dry for those photos.

GJ1981
01-13-2011, 21:17
Yeah it was actually pretty dry for those photos.

Huh...I would have guessed more oil, but maybe it was the lighting.

I guess IB can be had in matte or satin black now, as well as some other colors...I'll find out soon enough :whistling:

TSAX
01-13-2011, 22:26
Pistol is a Nighthawk Custom Enforcer Recon. The first holster is a C5 Leather Montana XLT, and the second is a Garret Industries Silent Thunder OWB holster.

The Nighthawk GRP Recon is on my wish list. Wonderful guns.