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duncan
01-14-2011, 03:11
Looks like I'm goig snow caving and igloo building with the Boy Scout next month near Wenatchee, WA.

Found this:

http://www.survivalistssite.com/~canuck/images/shelter/snow_cave_1.jpg

One got any tips?

Dennis in MA
01-14-2011, 11:03
1-800-marriot ;)

I'm anti-snow.

Junior73
01-14-2011, 13:18
I have done a few with just a camping shovel. Here is a good video on them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOJQPz1s-1c

But I have never been in snow that deep.

ctaggart
01-15-2011, 03:39
Plan ahead and have the boys get together and shovel the snow up into a huge mound. Let the mound sit for a few days so the snow can compact. Weeks would be better if it stays cold. You'll have better results this way.

DocwithGlock
01-16-2011, 14:38
If you plan on using it that night, I would tramp down the best drift I could find and add snow as needed (you will need good amount of snow for a shelter). Once you get a large enough mound that is well tramped down, you should let it set for at least an hour, preferably longer. The walls and roof/ ceiling should be at least 12" thick. Make sure you make the entrance is away from the prevailing wind, and if you plan on lighting a candle or cook stove you must have a ventilation hole.

If the snow isn't deep enough I have made makeshift shefters with pine branches, tarp, and whatever snow I could gather. Pine branches make for a good bed and can give decent insulation if you do not have a mat.

Have fun, and good luck.

308endurdebate
01-16-2011, 17:13
Goes without saying that you need to have a thick closed cell foam pad. Worth using together with an inflatable.

duncan
01-16-2011, 20:02
Thanks for the tips.

I think some of these mounds may be quite high and thick as we will be snowshoeing in too.

Flattop67
01-17-2011, 23:27
If I remember correctly, dig down to bare earth and ensure you have 10-12inch thick walls, you will achieve +16 degrees. Make the shelter just large enough for one person. Big is bad. Bring a pee bottle in so you don't have to get out. Just sayin.

duncan
02-09-2011, 01:32
I have done a few with just a camping shovel. Here is a good video on them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOJQPz1s-1c

But I have never been in snow that deep.

Thanks for the video.

We pulled a tour permit to be up on Mount Rainer at the Paradise area. So good snow.

duncan
02-16-2011, 02:14
I hear you guys. Have two complete sets of winter gear so I can get the first set wet building the ice cave and then eat dinner and change into dry gear for sleeping.

Local Value Village had two sets of ski poles and a nice XXXL snowmobiling suit for $6.99.

And I bought some 16 ounce old nalgene bottles for pissing.

It might be above freezing so we need to prepare for rain.

Any good tips for using a 3-person summer tent? I was thinking of tying up a solar emergency blanket about one foot above our heads to retain heat in there.

http://www.disasterstuff.com/store/pc/catalog/sh77ml350.jpg

Anyone done that?

Bilbo Bagins
02-17-2011, 12:43
You are going to need good, good, sleeping pads. Either one with an R value of 4and up, or two regular foam pads with a space blanket on the bottom. I haven't snow caved, but I have winter camped on top of snow,and on the ground. If the temps are below 20, the cold from the ground will creep into your bag if you don't have a good pad setup.

Also from experience, an adult male usually pisses more than 16oz :whistling:

32 oz gatorade bottles are better.:rofl:

alexanderg23
02-17-2011, 12:50
Whiskey to keep warm

duncan
02-18-2011, 03:44
Goes without saying that you need to have a thick closed cell foam pad. Worth using together with an inflatable.

http://i.stpost.com/erez4/erez?src=ProductImages/2929F_01.tif&tmp=FullSize&redirect=0

So would a closed foam pad and an inflatable Big Agness sleeping pad be good to get me off of the ground?

308endurdebate
02-19-2011, 16:47
http://i.stpost.com/erez4/erez?src=ProductImages/2929F_01.tif&tmp=FullSize&redirect=0

So would a closed foam pad and an inflatable Big Agness sleeping pad be good to get me off of the ground?

Yup. That will work good.

duncan
02-19-2011, 21:37
Thanks man. I just do not want to freeze this year.

Three years ago, we attended an outdoor frontiersmen event and it was -13 degrees at night.

Seems like it will be in the upper 10s this time.

duncan
03-05-2011, 17:59
Well guys, it was a blast.

We built our snow caves but it was snowing an inch every 15 minutes so the park rangers closed Paradise for overnight camping.

Must have walked 2.5 miles in deep snow with those snow shoes.

I would have been warm at night.

Next time!