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Quack
01-20-2011, 12:10
does your extractor clock when it's loaded?

This is from NHC.
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ol1911/PhotoJan1473025PM.jpg

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=299238

i guess that makes a NHC a pretty safe queen :tongueout:

Rinspeed
01-20-2011, 12:18
I saw that thread and thought "wow thats a little sloppy for a $2500 pistol. :faint:

JoshuaC
01-20-2011, 12:20
I never got the point of doing that to the back of the pistol. Is it cause people think it looks good or something? Seems like a waste of however many $$'s for something that has no purpose.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-20-2011, 12:22
My custom shop springfield has rear serrations, and they are off almost like that too on the rear of the extractor.

I have looked at a LOT of higher end 1911s. This seems to be somewhat common. I've seen it on many brands of high end 1911s. I don't understand why they can't make it straight, however.

Personally, if I ever get it done again, I want it done the way ed brown does it... Just leave the extractor alone with NO serrations. I think that looks better than when they are off from the rest of the rear of the slide.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/gun1.jpg

GJ1981
01-20-2011, 12:28
I have looked at a LOT of higher end 1911s. This seems to be somewhat common. I've seen it on many brands of high end 1911s.


I agree, I have seen similar examples from the main shops.

Ballcuts not lining up seem to be another problem, which again, I've seen that issue in Wilson, NHC, SA, etc.

Good thing I deleted the serrations on my NHC, and since the ballcuts do line up, my SA Pro will be the only safe queen I own...unless 3rd times a charm :steamed:

Hokie1911
01-20-2011, 12:33
I saw that thread and thought "wow thats a little sloppy for a $2500 pistol. :faint:

:agree:

Nickpisp
01-20-2011, 12:33
It's a loaded chamber indicator. :whistling:

bac1023
01-20-2011, 12:37
I don't recall either of my Nighthawks doing that, but I'll check.

Both of them have serrations on the back of their slides, along with several of my others.

bac1023
01-20-2011, 12:38
It's a loaded chamber indicator. :whistling:

:rofl:

scooterhoohoos
01-20-2011, 12:38
...Personally, if I ever get it done again, I want it done the way ed brown does it... Just leave the extractor alone with NO serrations. I think that looks better than when they are off from the rest of the rear of the slide.

I prefer it that way too, and that's how mine were done on my Delta Elite.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2ugf383.jpg

Quack
01-20-2011, 12:39
now just another thing to get people paranoid about :animlol:

Quack
01-20-2011, 12:39
It's a loaded chamber indicator. :whistling:

:animlol:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-20-2011, 12:54
I prefer it that way too, and that's how mine were done on my Delta Elite.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2ugf383.jpg

Yes, that looks better. I even like the black finished ones that Brown puts on his stainless models.

My Custom Springer isn't off as much as the one you posted above, but it is slightly annoying. I have seen that enough, though, that I knew this is fairy common. So, I didn't make an issue of it - I just had them fix the scratch on the frame when it came in. And, I had the thumb safety replaced because my gun came with the largest gap under the thumb safety that I had ever seen before.

This is my Brown Special Forces (Top Gun Supply had taken some pics for me before I bought it in 2008 - this is his photo of it)... The rear isn't serrated, but I don't mind the black extractor.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/IMGP21501.jpg

DRAGON1970
01-20-2011, 12:55
I never got the point of doing that to the back of the pistol. Is it cause people think it looks good or something? Seems like a waste of however many $$'s for something that has no purpose.

They come in very handy in a match when the pistol does not go fully go into battery. They keep your palm from slipping off when hitting the back of the slide to push it into battery. This could also be used in a real-world situation. Not a very big deal while standing in a lane static shooting though.

polizei1
01-20-2011, 13:02
I've heard that the purpose of doing it is to cut the glare from light that could possibly block the rear sight, making it harder to obtain a correct sight picture/sight alignment. Is this true? I have no idea...I think most people just do it for looks.

DRAGON1970
01-20-2011, 13:08
"Most" people probably do it for looks as most people shoot 50 rounds a month standing in a lane at an indoor range. Just as "Most" of the questions asked on 1911 forums regarding 1911 longevity and fit/finish come from that same group that would never in their lifetime wear out a 1911.

knedrgr
01-20-2011, 13:09
They come in very handy in a match when the pistol does not go fully go into battery. They keep your palm from slipping off when hitting the back of the slide to push it into battery. This could also be used in a real-world situation. Not a very big deal while standing in a lane static shooting though.

I've heard that the purpose of doing it is to cut the glare from light that could possibly block the rear sight, making it harder to obtain a correct sight picture/sight alignment. Is this true? I have no idea...I think most people just do it for looks.

both are correct reasons for the serrations. Others might think it's cosmetic, but there is a function. The glare reduction is the same reason why they have serrations on the back of sights.

bac1023
01-20-2011, 13:22
both are correct reasons for the serrations. Others might think it's cosmetic, but there is a function. The glare reduction is the same reason why they have serrations on the back of sights.

Oh, the serrations definitely cut down on glare when the sun is behind you. In fact, they completely eliminate the light reflecting back in your eyes off the rear of the slide.

I know many here don't, but I've always liked them. My customs from Morris and Liebenberg both have the serrations as well.



http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_3861.jpg


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/023.jpg

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38 Super Fan
01-20-2011, 13:35
Mine are a little off on my RRA LM. :crying:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-20-2011, 14:32
Well, it looks cool if you get it done on the rear of the sight too (depending on what style of sight you have).

Honestly, I did it because I was spending so much on the gun anyway. I really wanted serrations on the top of the slide, but at a certain point, I just couldn't justify spending that much money.

There is ALWAYS something else to be done that would be cool... But, a few dollars here for this, a few dollars here for that... It ads up. I added the beveled slide stop 1/2 way into my waiting period ($75 extra), because I kept seeing it on the pics of the Pro.

I finally decided that $3k was where I'd draw the line (MSRP was $3200 something, but I paid $2990 thru George). Otherwise, I may have gotten french borders and serrations on the slide top.

bac1023
01-20-2011, 14:37
Well, it looks cool if you get it done on the rear of the sight too (depending on what style of sight you have).



Yeah, its nice when it matches the serrations on the rear sight. That's how mine are.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-20-2011, 14:52
Yeah, its nice when it matches the serrations on the rear sight. That's how mine are.

Well, I prefer Novak style 3 dot sights. Volkmann is the only one I have see that serrates part of the Novaks (he is using champion sights).

bac1023
01-20-2011, 14:58
Well, I prefer Novak style 3 dot sights. Volkmann is the only one I have see that serrates part of the Novaks (he is using champion sights).

Liebenberg serrates his sights and they're Novak style.

Mine are serrated at 40lpi along with the back of the slide. :)

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-20-2011, 15:00
I've never actually handled that brand of gun before.

I'e tried to like heine sights and the 10-8 sights, but they just don't work for me... Nor does sights with silver around the tritium (I want white circles around the tritium - which is why I LOVE the sights Ed Brown uses)

samuse
01-21-2011, 06:52
Otherwise, I may have gotten french borders and serrations on the slide top.



I would never allow anything French near any 1911 of mine.

Besides, "French borders" are just a way to make a corrected slide look decent.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
01-21-2011, 08:10
I would never allow anything French near any 1911 of mine.

Besides, "French borders" are just a way to make a corrected slide look decent.

I've seen a couple of guns done by the Springfield Custom Shop with french borders and ball cuts that looked absolutely awesome.

My Custom Shop gun is a full rail operator - so obviously ball cuts don't apply. But, I still think french borders look sweet on the guns I have seen them on.

gruntmedik
01-21-2011, 10:57
Are the French Borders over run? :whistling:

Jim S.
01-21-2011, 18:10
If the extractor turns slightly it means that the firing pin stop is not properly fit to the slide and extractor.
Do yourselves a favor and buy an oversized firing pin stop and fit it to the extractor and then the slide.
It should hold the extractor snugly and prevent any movement.
It should also fit into the slide on the snug side.
You really do not want the extractor turning like that.
It changes the hook bevels at the front of the extractor.

bac1023
01-21-2011, 18:20
I would never allow anything French near any 1911 of mine.

Besides, "French borders" are just a way to make a corrected slide look decent.


I like French borders, to be honest.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/002-21.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_3888.jpg

38 Super Fan
01-21-2011, 18:35
I like French borders, to be honest.



Me too, they're actually quite subtle, I never noticed them on your Legacy.

Officer's Match
01-21-2011, 19:31
It's not loaded in this pic, but I always though the boys at LB did a good job on this TDP:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Baer/IMG_0249-1-1.jpg

bac1023
01-21-2011, 19:37
Me too, they're actually quite subtle, I never noticed them on your Legacy.

Thanks.

The Limited Match actually has them too, but they're very thin.

Cobra64
01-22-2011, 00:21
I like French borders, to be honest.


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/002-21.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/000_3888.jpg

Brian, I like the Valtro! :)

faawrenchbndr
01-26-2011, 05:51
When loaded or unloaded,.....thei Miller Custom Springfied does not shift

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/Miller%20Custom%20Springfield/MillerCustomSpringerpic7.jpg