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silvrevo
01-25-2011, 10:49
Kinda looking into the .22 riffles, and I like the looks of the mp15-22 and the ruger 10-22.

I kinda like the looks of the Ruger better. Is one model better than the other as far as jamming up?

Also I see there is a Ruger sr-22. How is this different than the 10-22?

There is about a $200 price difference between the two.

After looking at a few pictures on here of 10-22's, and how people have modded them up,,, is it better to go with the 10-22 than the SR-22?

I think Im going to start making a picture folder of the Rugers I like, and maybe how I would like mine to be one day.

Thanks.:supergrin:

HAMMERHEAD
01-25-2011, 11:57
It's hard to wrong with a 10/22. Proven design, mine is highly reliable and accurate. All I've done to mine is add a Volquartsen hammer to improve the trigger pull (it's great now).
If you really want a military looking .22lr, the SR-22 is just a dolled up 10/22. I don't like it personally because it really doesn't add anything except a military look and an enlarged price tag, but if you're into that....
I would recommend a basic 10/22 and build it up as you see fit. Stocks, barrels, scopes, all the goodies are available for a 10/22.

Flipz
01-25-2011, 12:55
Go with the Sig 522. Mine has been 100% flawless with more than 4000 rounds through it of all sorts of different .22lr ammo.

bambikilr
01-25-2011, 12:59
Ruger...been around & tons of mods for it

tx787
01-25-2011, 13:00
I think those are your two best choices, the 10/22 is a classic .22 rifle, always has been, always will be, always held in high regard. You NEVER see used ones, there's a reason for that. The M&P 15-22 gives you an "AR" feel with the ability to add tons of features and toys if you want, and of course 25 round magazines for blasting away that cheap 22 ammo.

It's apples and oranges, decide if you want classic or tacticool or get one of each! The 15-22 is the best of the 22 ARs IMO, they are very reliable and very well made. The SR22 is a modified 10/22 FYI.

chineseboxer
01-25-2011, 13:46
I have both. I find 10/22's a little boring. MP15-22 is just a blast to shoot. Seems to find it's way into my gun case every time I go to the range.

T. Harless
01-25-2011, 16:08
I've a few 10/22s and a 15/22. It's apples and oranges really. My "good" 10/22 is decked out with a Volquartsen drop in trigger, Hogue overmolded stock, Tactical Solutions threaded barrel and a nice Nikon 4x scope. Dime size groups at 50 all day. Wouldn't trade it for the world. On the other hand, the M&P is such fun to shoot. 25 rd mags that work great. It's sporting the EOTech from my Bushmaster and an AAC Pilot supressor. It's awesome. I've never scoped it so I don't know what the real accuracy of the M&P is. If I had to pick a fun gun I'd go M&P. If I had to pick one solid .22 I'd lean 10/22. Then there's the Savage MK III that's a one hole wonder.......... They're .22s get 'em all.

smokin762
01-25-2011, 16:16
I vote for the S&W M&P 15-22. You can use regular AR rifle Trigger parts, stocks, pistol grips, flash hiders and sights. This would be a fun and cheap way to learn the fundamentals of an AR rifle. :cool:

silvrevo
01-26-2011, 11:43
sr22 and 10-22 also can be had with a 25 round magazine as well right?

mixflip
01-26-2011, 12:10
Which one to buy? It depends?

Are you looking to train on the same fire controls as your AR15 but save a little money on ammo? If so get the M&P1522.

If you just want to poke holes in paper and you love to tinker and upgrade and modify and change the look of your gun month after month...then a Ruger 10/22 is a great platform. They make millions of aftermarket parts for the 10/22 that you can literally build a whole gun from non Ruger made parts. You can set it up as a SBR CQB looking military gun then a week later order parts to make it look like a long range varmint sniper. Its probably more modular than the AR15? lol.

Iflyfish
01-26-2011, 16:29
I have both. The difference between the two is night and day. Both are great guns. The 10-22 is tried and true, reliable, easy to maintain, tons of modifications available. The 15-22 is pure fun. It’s as close to an AR as you can get. I rarely shoot the 10-22 anymore but I would never consider parting with it. I recommend you get………………………………………both.

KingWalleye
01-26-2011, 18:50
Go with the Sig 522. Mine has been 100% flawless with more than 4000 rounds through it of all sorts of different .22lr ammo.

Me too! Awesome gun even if it doesn't come with sights.

g34fan
01-26-2011, 21:01
I own a Ruger 10-22 and a Sig 522. I've also looked at the M&P as well as others. I would go with the Sig. One of the most reliable guns I own and incredibly fun to shoot. I added an inexpensive TruGlo Red Dot and my kids and I have been having non-stop fun with it. The Ruger has been gathering dust ever since. Our local range was looking for an AR style .22 to add to their rentals. They checked out every one on the market and ended up going with the Sig 522 as well. Reliability was one of their top reasons for buying it. Nothing worse than a rental that causes problems for your customers.

Chattanoogaphil
01-29-2011, 19:37
I have the Sig and S&W. The S&W is a good light weight bang at soda cans gun, and the Sig is more of a precision shooter.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/members/chattanoogaphil-albums-pics-picture3764-dsc03798.jpghttp://smith-wessonforum.com/members/chattanoogaphil-albums-pics-picture3577-dsc02716.jpg

ScooterFLH
02-02-2011, 18:40
15-22 without a doubt

GSSF17
02-02-2011, 19:16
I have the Sig and S&W. The S&W is a good light weight bang at soda cans gun, and the Sig is more of a precision shooter.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/members/chattanoogaphil-albums-pics-picture3764-dsc03798.jpghttp://smith-wessonforum.com/members/chattanoogaphil-albums-pics-picture3577-dsc02716.jpg

Wow.... I can whack stuffed wine corks out of the bottles at 100 yards with my M&P 15-22. I consider it the precision semi auto --second to my tricked 10/22.

Lately, I have been leaving the Sig 522 in the safe for such escapades. Just not quite "there" IMO

ScrappyDoo
02-02-2011, 20:18
S&W M&P 15-22 = Cadillac CTS

Ruger 10/22 = Chevy Cobalt

I have a Cobalt, can't knock it that much, but I own a 15-22. Comparing the 15-22 to the 10/22 isn't really fair to the 10/22.

Reswob
02-02-2011, 20:55
Already have an AR-15? Get a conversion kit or dedicated .22 upper for it. Otherwise get a 10/22. Pass on the "toy" .22 AR clones.

bman940
02-02-2011, 22:42
Lots of great answers and the nice thing is that none of them are wrong. I have the Smith, a Ruger and a drop in 22 lr for my AR. I think the Smith is the most fun. It is the one my son always wants to shoot and is very accurate to 50 yards.
I put a Nikon M-223 1-4 Point Blank reticle on it and you can literally bang steel all day long. We have put over 5000 rounds through mine with only 1 cleaning and never a malfunction. No complainta about the Ruger either. It has a few modifications and is more accurate, just not as much fun.

Chattanoogaphil
02-03-2011, 08:03
Wow.... I can whack stuffed wine corks out of the bottles at 100 yards with my M&P 15-22. I consider it the precision semi auto --second to my tricked 10/22.

Lately, I have been leaving the Sig 522 in the safe for such escapades. Just not quite "there" IMO

American Rifleman recently tested all the black gun 22s. Their reported accuracy results are on par with my findings and of those I shoot with. The 1522 is about a 3-4MOA rifle.

Alaskapopo
02-03-2011, 14:43
Kinda looking into the .22 riffles, and I like the looks of the mp15-22 and the ruger 10-22.

I kinda like the looks of the Ruger better. Is one model better than the other as far as jamming up?

Also I see there is a Ruger sr-22. How is this different than the 10-22?

There is about a $200 price difference between the two.

After looking at a few pictures on here of 10-22's, and how people have modded them up,,, is it better to go with the 10-22 than the SR-22?

I think Im going to start making a picture folder of the Rugers I like, and maybe how I would like mine to be one day.

Thanks.:supergrin:
Depends on what you want. 10-22's have lots of options and are great guns. But if you want a training understudy rifle for your AR15 then the M&P in 22 is better.
Pat

Alaskapopo
02-03-2011, 14:53
Already have an AR-15? Get a conversion kit or dedicated .22 upper for it. Otherwise get a 10/22. Pass on the "toy" .22 AR clones.

The conversions suck for accuracy. I like the dedicated uppers and I own one but they cost quite a bit more. The Smith is a good gun. My friends who shoot the Ruger Steel Challenge with me in the summer use Smiths and they work well.
Pat

smokin762
02-03-2011, 16:08
The conversions suck for accuracy. I like the dedicated uppers and I own one but they cost quite a bit more.

I would agree that the Conversions are not as accurate. They may be good for fundamental use, however, the .22lr bullet performs much better out of a 1/16 rate of twist barrel rather than a 1/7 or a 1/9 rate of twist barrel.

I have a dedicated .22lr upper for my AR and I have a Ruger 10/22 with a 20” barrel that has a set of Tech Sights on it.

I have found both of them to be very accurate at 25-100 yards. I can keep most of my shots with both rifles in the black with a few flyers but that is my fault.

I would also agree about the price of the dedicated .22lr upper. My upper cost $100.00 more than the S&W M&P 15-22 however, my dedicated upper gives me the same feel and weight as my AR in 5.56. That is important to me.

Alaskapopo
02-03-2011, 16:22
I would agree that the Conversions are not as accurate. They may be good for fundamental use, however, the .22lr bullet performs much better out of a 1/16 rate of twist barrel rather than a 1/7 or a 1/9 rate of twist barrel.

I have a dedicated .22lr upper for my AR and I have a Ruger 10/22 with a 20” barrel that has a set of Tech Sights on it.

I have found both of them to be very accurate at 25-100 yards. I can keep most of my shots with both rifles in the black with a few flyers but that is my fault.

I would also agree about the price of the dedicated .22lr upper. My upper cost $100.00 more than the S&W M&P 15-22 however, my dedicated upper gives me the same feel and weight as my AR in 5.56. That is important to me.
I am not dogging on the uppers. I have a Spikes build and love it. I am just saying for the money the Smith is a good option.
Pat
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/AR%20style%20rifles/Spikes22longrifle.jpg

smokin762
02-03-2011, 17:17
I am not dogging on the uppers. I have a Spikes build and love it. I am just saying for the money the Smith is a good option.
Pat
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/AR%20style%20rifles/Spikes22longrifle.jpg

I didn’t take it that you’re dogging out the dedicated uppers, I know you were talking about how the .22lr conversions are just not as accurate and I whole heartedly agree with you.

I just touched on why they are more accurate so that others can get some information out of it.

I would completely agree that the S&W M&P 15-22 is a good option. I recommend them to people all the time.

My friend has one and his 10 year old son keeps all of his rounds in the black at 25 yards in the prone position.

Last year, I bought a Spikes Dedicated .22lr upper. The reason I went with the Spikes is that it could give me the weight I wanted and they offered it with the Mid Length handsguards that I prefer. It makes for an easy transition from 5.56 to .22lr. The only difference is the lack of recoil and noise.:supergrin:

smokin762
02-03-2011, 17:23
Since we are showing pics, here is my Spikes Dedicated upper on a RRA lower with a 2 stage trigger and a picture of one of my targets.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1004&pictureid=3828

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silvrevo
02-08-2011, 12:36
Buds has the Sig522 for $375 shipped! What different mods can you do to the Sig? Are they extensive as with the ruger or mp? I believe the Sig comes with a 30 round magazine. I'm almost leaning towards this Sig..as long as its the current model,and nothing has changed. That's for your input..I'm also going to love the price of ammo!

silvrevo
02-16-2011, 12:10
I went ahead and got a Sig 522 swat pistol. Should be here in a week. I cant wait!!!

racer88
02-19-2011, 13:37
Love my M&P 15-22. Fun and cheap to shoot.

mac66
02-23-2011, 14:42
The one advantage with the 10/22 is that is so versatile. Want a hunting rifle or fun plinker? Slap a cheap scope and sling on it. Want a Appleseed rifle,? Oh wait you already have one. What a target rifle, slap a bull barrel and fancy stock on it. Want a kids rifle? Buy one of the many cheap used factory stocks floating around and cut it down. Want a tactical rifle? Slap any one of about about a hundred stocks, sights, scopes, rails, barrels on it and then make it back into a back yard plinker the next day.

It changes as your needs or moods change.

coastalcop
02-23-2011, 18:10
Is your go to rifle an AK? Get the 10-22 and install a large bolt and a pistol grip

Is your go to rifle an AR? Get the 15-22 and plenty of mags.

both are reliable fun shooters, so the deciding factor then becomes how will it improve the operation of my big gun.

A 10-22 with the exception of the safety emulates the AK platform very well, same sights, operating bolt, mag change. Works in its own right and has tons of stuff to mod it.

A 15-22 directly emulates the AR platform to include bolt hold open and release and all functions, its a couple of pounds lighter, and you can drop any ar trigger group in it. you can also hang anything that you hang on a fullsize ar on it.

My go to rifle is an AK so I use a 10-22 for training. However I have to teach and certify officers on the AR platform so I also have and train with a 15-22

both have thousands of rounds through them, both are reliable, both are great trainers, both have adequate accuracy, and both are tons of fun

my .02