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madone
01-25-2011, 14:03
Taken from AR15.com

For those of you that don't visit General Discussion, it has long been rumored that Charles Rangel
lied about the AYE votes being enough to pass the Hughes Amendment back in 1986. The vote happened at night
when many were not present.

(The Hughes Amendment made it illegal for citizens to own machineguns that were newly made or registered after May 19th, 1986).

Due to the efforts of some awesome members here at AR15.com, we now have archive video proof that Rangel not only
ignored procedure but lied about having enough votes.

There is a lengthy thread running in GD where this all started:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1013300&page=1

Rangel recently was found guilty of House ethics violations, and this video needs to get to every Congress man and woman in the House.

Here is a link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ


The vote is around 8:20 in the video, but if you watch the whole thing, you will be sickened at how Rangel smugly ignores
those that are trying to stop this amendment.

Now, I am begging you guys, to please send a link of this video to your Congressman. There is a form letter on page 15 of the thread linked above that you can use.

Also, please post the youtube link on EVERY firearm related forum that you belong to.

We have NEVER had as big of a chance to throw out this unconstitutional law as we do RIGHT NOW!

There are many men that have gone to prison because of this illegal law.

An AR-15 costs $750 dollars and a transferrable M-16 costs $15,000 dollars because of this illegal law.

We have a very pro-gun congress right now, and Rangel is already in hot water.

Let's turn up the heat!

fx77
01-25-2011, 14:10
What is the remedy for this fraud???

madone
01-25-2011, 14:16
Follow the thread over at Ar15.

People are getting the word out, and getting letters ready to send to their Reps.

8th SPS USAF
01-26-2011, 09:37
I would call/E but I have one of the worst -IMO- Congressmen there.
He is anti gun with the same BS that he supports hunters. I have
contacted him FTF/E's and always same BS. He avoids me at all meetings.
NW In. Lake Co.

mboylan
01-27-2011, 05:45
Proper procedure may not have been followed. However, it passed both houses and was signed by the president. Failure to follow House or Senate rules cannot nullify a law.

The Hughes amendment has held up in court time after time. There are people in prison because of it.

GTFord1
01-30-2011, 07:41
Proper procedure may not have been followed. However, it passed both houses and was signed by the president. Failure to follow House or Senate rules cannot nullify a law.

The Hughes amendment has held up in court time after time. There are people in prison because of it.

Yep. This kind of thing has happened many, many times.

It was passed and signed by everyone's favorite president here, Ronald Reagan. Thumbs up for signing a stupid law heralded by the likes of William Hughes and Charlie Rangel, Ronnie.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_E5YlcruElNg/TInvWSsfhwI/AAAAAAAAADQ/RzopUtN3kKU/s1600/ronald-reagan.jpg

Deployment Solu
01-30-2011, 08:17
Rangel has been, and always will be, a stupid POS. Now he is known to be a stupid, CRIMINAL POS. It takes an awful lot for Congress to charge a member of ethics violations, let alone multiple violations. He should be jailed and all his cronies in this little incident should be right with him.

That video shows his complete lack of knowledge. How did he ever get a gavel in his hands?????

GTFord1
01-30-2011, 08:26
Rangel has been, and always will be, a stupid POS. Now he is known to be a stupid, CRIMINAL POS. It takes an awful lot for Congress to charge a member of ethics violations, let alone multiple violations. He should be jailed and all his cronies in this little incident should be right with him.

That video shows his complete lack of knowledge. How did he ever get a gavel in his hands?????

His constituents are absolute morons, that's how.

What's more amazing to me is that we as a country allow people, by law, to stay in office after they've been proven by trial to be liars.

Yellowfin
02-04-2011, 07:42
Proper procedure may not have been followed. However, it passed both houses and was signed by the president. Failure to follow House or Senate rules cannot nullify a law.

The Hughes amendment has held up in court time after time. There are people in prison because of it.It has only stood up in criminal cases, where the matter to be decided is whether the accused violated the law not whether the law is good or bad. It has not had significant challenge in civil cases.

1gewehr
02-04-2011, 10:43
Proper procedure may not have been followed. However, it passed both houses and was signed by the president. Failure to follow House or Senate rules cannot nullify a law.

The Hughes amendment has held up in court time after time. There are people in prison because of it.

It has also been ruled invalid by at least two US District Courts.
United States v. Rock Island Armory (1991)
Unites States v. Bownds (1994)
Unites States v. Dalton (1992)

The Supreme Court has never tried to resolve these contradictions.