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Foxtrotx1
01-26-2011, 12:09
Considering this for my first 1911: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785108_-1_757754_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

What say you experts? Use is range and maybe carry.

GeorgiaRedfish
01-26-2011, 12:14
If you can stand the looks go for it.

Nickpisp
01-26-2011, 12:16
Holy crap! That thing is capable of firing with the magazine removed!!!!

bac1023
01-26-2011, 12:20
Yeah, I don't care much for them, to be honest.

Everyone feels the need to have a bobbed 1911 these days.

tango44
01-26-2011, 12:20
No bobtails for me, thank you.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 12:20
Considering this for my first 1911: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785108_-1_757754_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

What say you experts? Use is range and maybe carry.

There have been several threads in recent weeks about these. General feeling is that they are a pretty nice gun with FUGLY serrations and grips. Kind of like the bastard offspring of a Kobra Carry and a M&P. :supergrin:

GeorgiaRedfish
01-26-2011, 12:21
Yeah, I don't care much for them, to be honest.

Everyone feels the need to have a bobbed 1911 these days.
does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

Nickpisp
01-26-2011, 12:22
does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

I have a Super Carry Pro and I really like the way the bobtail feels.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 12:23
does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

I personally LOVE the bobtail. Feels great in my hand and prints WAY less. Strapped on my Pro Carry 2 in a VM2 and had major printing issues. The bobtail on my Kobra Carry will make it disappear.

GeorgiaRedfish
01-26-2011, 12:24
I personally LOVE the bobtail. Feels great in my hand and prints WAY less. Strapped on my Pro Carry 2 in a VM2 and had major printing issues. The bobtail on my Kobra Carry will make it disappear.
I've never had a problem concealing a 1911, but I still want to handle one see what all the hype is about.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 12:35
I've never had a problem concealing a 1911, but I still want to handle one see what all the hype is about.

Hmmmm, maybe if I stopped dressing like my hero, I'd conceal better. :dunno:

http://www.maricopatactical.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mark-volpone.jpg

TKR Reptiles
01-26-2011, 13:08
I for one really like that firearm... I just recently saw it, and now it is on my list of guns to get...

Agent6-3/8
01-26-2011, 13:24
If that's what you want, go for it! Personally, I think its one of the ugliest 1911's I've ever seen and surpassed only by some of Kimber's offerings.

bac1023
01-26-2011, 13:29
does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

I like bobtails and, yes, they do help concealability without that sharp corner to print.

smith10
01-26-2011, 14:05
I like the way it looks. Should be a really nice take on a lightweight commander.

Quack
01-26-2011, 14:21
did someone leave Kimber and go to S&W?

bac1023
01-26-2011, 14:27
did someone leave Kimber and go to S&W?

:rofl:

ajgranda
01-26-2011, 14:27
I like that gun also and it was made for carrying. My hand loves bobtails. I could do without the FCS, but I like the grips and the RCS don't look bad. Looks like S&W revamped much of their line for the better IMHO. Series 70, Melonite finish, improved trigger, recessed and crowned barrel, further extended/lowered external ejector. If you can get one for around 1K I say go for it. Remember you also get a lifetime warranty and free shipping through S&W.

TKR Reptiles
01-26-2011, 15:30
I like that gun also and it was made for carrying. My hand loves bobtails. I could do without the FCS, but I like the grips and the RCS don't look bad. Looks like S&W revamped much of their line for the better IMHO. Series 70, Melonite finish, improved trigger, recessed and crowned barrel, further extended/lowered external ejector. If you can get one for around 1K I say go for it. Remember you also get a lifetime warranty and free shipping through S&W.

I agree... I am really digging that firearm!

mrsurfboard
01-26-2011, 17:08
I like it.

ajstrider
01-26-2011, 17:58
I have never decided to not buy a gun because I didn't like the way it looks, to me it is a machine meant to do its job. However, this is one FUGLY gun and you won't see one in any of my gun safes. If I was to win one in a contest, I would have it sold within a day, heh.

Cobra64
01-28-2011, 00:22
does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

When there was an extreme Valor shortage, I called the Dan Wesson and asked if they'd build me one with an ambi safety. Half an hour later, it turned into a VBOB with some extra action work done to it. Thus, it became the first Dan Wesson bobtailed Valor before there was a VBOB.

Since it is incredibly comfortable to shoot, going forward, all of my future 1911s will be bobtailed. If carried, I would image that it would print less (I don't carry 1911s).


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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Valor/Logo02.jpg

Cobra64
01-28-2011, 00:32
Yeah, I don't care much for them, to be honest.

Everyone feels the need to have a bobbed 1911 these days.

Well, we all need a little tail most of the time. :rofl:

There's a review in the latest issue of Guns and Ammo that just arrived today.

After a cursory look and read; the FCS turned me off, I'm not fond of the squiggly serrations, and the configuration selection leaves a lot to be desired. Apparently S&W has gone light rail and laser crazy.

Methinks the Sig guy moved from Exeter to Springfield. :faint:

R0CKETMAN
01-28-2011, 07:06
Fugly, but at less than 30oz it should be nice to carry. I could think of better options.

ajgranda
01-28-2011, 07:10
Fugly, but at less than 30oz it should be nice to carry. I could think of better options.

Not for around a $1K street price with a bobtail round butt and lifetime warranty. :supergrin:

BuckyP
01-28-2011, 07:44
IIRC, the Enhanced series guns will not have the firing pin safety? That's the only thing I don't like about my Pro.

does it really help that much? I couldn't imagine, but I've also never handled one.

I for one like the bob tail. I find it does help keep the gun from printing. Also, with a standard 1911 with no magwell, the corner of the gun digs into my hand a bit. However, the best feel for me is with an S&A magwell with the extention to the MSH, but for me that is much harder to conceal properly.

EmperorKO
01-29-2011, 15:38
I don't know what's up with the rest of you. With the exception of the stupid magazine disclaimer on the frame and possible the FCS, that's one of the best looking guns I've seen in a while.

Oaklands
01-29-2011, 20:59
I have a 1911 with bobtail and some without. I like the bobtail. Honestly, my next purchase will probably be a Smith or a Springfield. Something with a lifetime warranty and a tried and true service department. It looks like a gun that could grow on you plus I always like having something a little different from everyone else.

Texas Bulldog
03-17-2011, 18:08
I love the Bobtail feel. not only does it print less, but in my wide hands i don't have to worry abotu the sharp corner digging into my palm.

I Love the fact that they are getting more popular.

JOe

simulatedjim
03-17-2011, 18:44
I've got one question about the E-Series, have they taken the "slop" out of the triggers?

Mayhem like Me
03-17-2011, 19:42
did someone leave Kimber and go to S&W?

yup about 6 years ago....

Hokie1911
03-20-2011, 11:53
Went to a show with Quack, Knedrgr, and Lawdog today. Got to handle an E-Series bobtail. Very light, but still hella fugly...and the serrated MSH is pretty useless.

knedrgr
03-20-2011, 11:57
yeah, it's like looking at a Picasso painting. It might be nice and have a value, but FUGLY.

mrsurfboard
03-20-2011, 12:37
I don't know what's up with the rest of you. With the exception of the stupid magazine disclaimer on the frame and possible the FCS, that's one of the best looking guns I've seen in a while.

I agree, I like it too.

HotRoderX
03-20-2011, 12:40
I don't know what's up with the rest of you. With the exception of the stupid magazine disclaimer on the frame and possible the FCS, that's one of the best looking guns I've seen in a while.

I agree, I like it too.

+1

I don't know why everyone says they hate the grips and serrations I think they look good on the gun. If i had a k to spend on a 1911 this would most likely be it.

CombatBarbi
03-20-2011, 15:06
I think its a pretty 1911 too...but I seemingly always like the bastard dogged on samplings of the 1911 world....

Quack
03-20-2011, 15:22
I think its a pretty 1911 too...but I seemingly always like the bastard dogged on samplings of the 1911 world....

there was a Safari Arms at the gunshow today and i thought of you :wavey:

CombatBarbi
03-20-2011, 17:50
there was a Safari Arms at the gunshow today and i thought of you :wavey:

And you didn't take a picture POUT
:buttercup:

Hokie1911
03-20-2011, 17:52
And you didn't take a picture POUT
:buttercup:

Be careful asking for pics in here. Some things you can't unsee. :crying:

Foxtrotx1
03-20-2011, 19:03
I really wish they made the full size without the rail with the melonite finish. Would they custom shop that?

Gary1911A1
03-21-2011, 08:26
I really wish they made the full size without the rail with the melonite finish. Would they custom shop that?

I think if you wait you'll find S&W will expand their line of 1911s' to as many as they had before and there will be one just like that.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
03-21-2011, 08:35
I think if you wait you'll find S&W will expand their line of 1911s' to as many as they had before and there will be one just like that.

Yes, I read that their entire line will soon be replaced by the E series, with all the various mixes and matches of differences. A standard 5" model with some of the new features of the E series would be cool.

COLDSTEEL165
03-22-2011, 01:58
Stupid question don't all 1911's are capable of firing when the magizines are removed, & you have one in the pipe. ?

TSAX
03-22-2011, 02:08
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EMTCOP
03-22-2011, 02:38
Aesthetics aside, Hilton Yam and Tim Lau ( 10-8 Performance ), both professional street cops and custom 1911 smiths, have said the E series shows promise. I'm not a 1911 guy, but these two guys know what they speak of.

sheepdog
03-22-2011, 04:42
The serrations I'm okay with. The grips-change to something with fewer lines/directions and it will change the look of the gun. I wonder if black Sharpie will cover the warning on the slide. That's on the bobtail. Anybody here can Photoshop one like that up? I'm not sure there is any way to pretty up a rail gun, they always look like a hand full of razor blades or a 1911 with a condition requiring a prosthetic to me.

mrsurfboard
03-22-2011, 13:43
Handled a 2 tone one today at my local gun shop. Looks much better in person. Think I'm getting one soon.

custom2
03-23-2011, 19:14
I've got one question about the E-Series, have they taken the "slop" out of the triggers?


They are suppose to have decent triggers with their "innovative" trigger fitting tabs they come equipped with.

My question is, why didn't they just fix the problem the right way by either machining their frames to spec or buying triggers that are the right size. It seems that one of those 2 solutions would work as opposed to wasting tons of R&D time and money to come up with an out of spec trigger that has raised fitting pads.



Smith & Wesson, stop trying to re-invent the wheel. It's a 1911. All the R&D was done for you 100 years ago. Cut, copy and paste a 1911 schematic off the internet and make one that is in spec already. Or better yet, get in touch with me and I will email you my copy.

custom2
03-23-2011, 19:19
Stupid question don't all 1911's are capable of firing when the magizines are removed, & you have one in the pipe. ?


Smith and Wesson is a company that builds guns in Massachusetts, a communist state. They build their 1911's in Maine, a very Liberal state.

Are you really surprised that a lawyer warning is engraved on the frame? This goes back to when Clinton was in office. All smith autos that don't have a magazine disconnect have this warning written on them.