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wvglock
01-26-2011, 16:59
Ive narrowed it down to STI Duty One and a TRP.

I found a used TRP, can't find a used Duty one, so its a wash on price.

My Trojan is a dream (to me). Are the TRP's triggers able to be like my Trojan, or will I have to buy C&s parts for that?

There doesn't seem to be a huge advantage to the TRP, but lots of people love them, and i can't find squat on the Duty One as far as reviews and testimonials.

The Trojan, Spartan, and Legacy or Sentry have a few reviews, but almost nothing on the Duty One. Ive scoured the 1911 forums everywhere and only found a few limited reviews.

Please share your knowledge bac, drc767, quack, hokieshooter,glock2740, and others.:notworthy:

Quack
01-26-2011, 17:03
STI's have been on backorder for a while, so good luck trying to find one right now.

The TRP trigger is adjustable for over-travel like the Trojan.
to have a similar trigger pull as the Trojan, you might need to have a trigger job done.

If you are looking for a full-rail TRP Operator, i know of a shop that has 2 pre-owned guns. they also might have a Duty one there too.

so why a bull barrel over a bushing barrel?

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 17:04
I think you lumped me in with the resident experts by mistake. I don't even own a 1911 at the moment. :rofl:

Quack
01-26-2011, 17:06
I think you lumped me in with the resident experts by mistake. I don't even own a 1911 at the moment. :rofl:

i forget who it was, but they PM'd me and lumped you into that fold as well :rofl:

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 17:08
i forget who it was, but they PM'd me and lumped you into that fold as well :rofl:

That's funny.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 17:11
I personally am not a fan of the TRP (girlie hands that don't like SA 20LPI), so I'd look elsewhere for an affordable railed gun (MC Operator, Colt Rail Gun, Kimber TLE RL2 come to mind) or get a Valor and add a Dawson rail.

If you like the TRP, that's pretty hard to beat.

wvglock
01-26-2011, 17:17
I don't have a lot of solid reasons for the bull barrel. Just want to try it I guess. Ive got a TRP half rail coming in ($1100). I hope I didn't get had. I still might toss it if I can find some advise on the Duty One.

Bac, can the trigger be accurately tuned with the MIM firing group parts, versus the tool steel, or is that just internet BS?

I read a lot of your stuff quack and hokishooter. Resident comedians and experts.

Quack
01-26-2011, 17:23
that's a good price. just don't like the TRP Op because the bull barrel and the adjustable rear sight.

the trigger can get tuned. On my Trophy Match that Hokie shot, i worked the MIM parts down to a 2# trigger. It lasted for while i've had it, but I can't tell you the longevity after a lot of rounds have gon through it. i think i've had about 1000 in the TM while i had it, which was about 6 months. If i had to guess the previous owner was a gun gamer because it was already at a 2.5# trigger, but it wasn't nicely done, the sear spring was just tweaked. i actually worked on the sear and hammer hooks, as well as using a COlt sear spring.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 17:25
that's a good price. just don't like the TRP Op because the bull barrel and the adjustable rear sight.

I still don't get that. Adjustable sights seems like a goofy add-on on that gun. :headscratch:

Quack
01-26-2011, 17:26
beats me :dunno:

wvglock
01-26-2011, 17:32
So to sum it up so far. My worries about the TRP are mostly unfounded.
I love aggressive front straps (I have clammy hands). My main concern was getting the same crisp, light trigger that I enjoy on the Trojan. (thanks quack). I might still drop the C&S parts in if I make the TRP a long term keeper.

But there is still nothing on the Duty One. I just wish I could find more info. It as if they advertise it, but rarely sell any.

Thanks again for your help.

Quack
01-26-2011, 17:35
C&S parts work great. i still have a SuperMatch set in my Loaded. i did that before i bought the tools to do trigger jobs.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 17:42
There is someone on here that has a Duty One and for the life of me I can't remember who it is. He really liked it and recommended it to me a while back when I was asking about a railed 5".


***Found it...maybe shoot him a PM.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15938627&postcount=38

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz355/ac45acp/guns/DSC01125.jpg

wvglock
01-26-2011, 17:46
Ive not graduated that far yet. Did you find that the parts were drop in, or that you still needed other parts or minor fitting?

What seems to be the concerns for a bull barrel?

Thanks.

wvglock
01-26-2011, 17:56
PM sent to dude. Thanks.

Quack
01-26-2011, 18:00
Ive not graduated that far yet. Did you find that the parts were drop in, or that you still needed other parts or minor fitting?

What seems to be the concerns for a bull barrel?

Thanks.

It still needs fitting, at least with the thumb safety at minimum.

Mayhem like Me
01-26-2011, 18:16
I tested a TRP and a duty one the thread is here soewhere. I would pass on the duty one.
The TRP had it all over the duty one in fit finish and reliability. If you can get by the adjustable sights...


The duty one is also very finicky about feeding when dirty that captioned recoil spring feels very week cpmpared to a standard. we experience numerous 5-6 round feed problemswith various magazines and ammo that ran perfect in teh TRP.

Lexcruiser
01-26-2011, 18:29
Why are the adjustable sights a bad thing on the TRP?

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 18:34
Why are the adjustable sights a bad thing on the TRP?

Personal preference for me. I wouldn't want adjustable sights on any gun.

Mayhem like Me
01-26-2011, 18:41
Why are the adjustable sights a bad thing on the TRP?

They are just ...funky and they are night sights that are recessed in the slide very well done but not needed.
I prefer a 10-8 style rear or Heinie/Novack over any adustables on a working gun.

Hokie1911
01-26-2011, 18:46
They are just ...funky and they are night sights that are recessed in the slide very well done but not needed.
I prefer a 10-8 style rear or Heinie/Novack over any adustables on a working gun.

:thumbsup:

Quack got me hooked on these.

knedrgr
01-26-2011, 21:39
Ive not graduated that far yet. Did you find that the parts were drop in, or that you still needed other parts or minor fitting?

What seems to be the concerns for a bull barrel?

Thanks.

C&S parts are dropped in. Just fit the TS to them.

Easier to tune and replace with fitting the barrel bushing.

knedrgr
01-26-2011, 21:46
Why are the adjustable sights a bad thing on the TRP?

It's an oxymoron to have a target sight on a Tactical Response Pistol. :dunno: They are meant for 'operators' so the get bang around during carry and operations, so why risk the sight being prone to damage or out of alignment.

glock2740
01-26-2011, 21:53
Well, I'm no expert, but I do play one on the internet. And I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in years.:rofl:I like SA and STI alot. But, for a railed bull barrel 1911, I'd go with the TRP. I've actually been pondering getting one myself. And I say that I don't even like railed 1911's. :dunno: It's a sickness I guess? :cool: If you find any good deals you wanna pass on, PM me on them. :thumbsup:

knedrgr
01-26-2011, 22:03
Well, I'm no expert, but I do play one on the internet. And I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in years.:rofl:

I had stayed in a Holiday Inn last year, so my 'expert' certificate has been renewed. :wavey: :rofl:

wvglock
01-27-2011, 12:49
Novak's shop is in my home town, maybe I can get a set put in without the extra cost of shipping.

I prefer an all black no dot rear and a tritium or FO front.

I just rarely ever do well with three dot.

Maybe with time Ill get to like the "fighting" set-ups.

Any other opinions on the duty one versus TRP.

Waiting for someone to put the dead horse animation on here.

But please beat the horse to death, I would love to hear more.

knedrgr
01-27-2011, 13:24
Novak's shop is in my home town, maybe I can get a set put in without the extra cost of shipping.

No Novak sight for you!

Only the Harris rear sight will work.

http://shop.harrisoncustom.com/products/119-hd-001-extreme-service-rear-sight.aspx

Hokie1911
01-27-2011, 13:29
Adjustable and Bomar. Double whammy. Ouch.

wvglock
01-27-2011, 20:25
Thanks for the link. Those seem to be just what I want in a rear sight. I'll give the factory ones a chance, but if they fail, I have an obvious replacement.

Im going to shoot the hell out of it and see if there is something I don't like about the TRP. If all is well I will put it in the rotation.

Ive heard a lot of conflicting stories about the STI Duty One.

My novice self will probably send it off the TRP for a trigger job if need be. I can't find a used Duty One so a used TRP Operator is the winnner.

Thanks again for everyones help.

Hokie1911
01-27-2011, 21:15
The TRP is a solid choice. I am pretty sure you will really dig it. Post up some pics and a range report because...

:needspics:

Quack
01-27-2011, 21:26
i think you need to buy this :)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213835557

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/213835000/213835557/pix689471872.jpg

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/213835000/213835557/pix682573801.jpg

Hokie1911
01-27-2011, 21:29
I don't think the trigger guard is square enough. :wow:

wvglock
01-27-2011, 21:30
Its in the mail. I will post pics as soon as I get it and do as best a review as i can