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geofri
01-27-2011, 09:59
Hey fellas, tech talk was brought up in another sub-forum, where I heard you all were really helpful, and I thought I'd bring a question over to you.
( done buttering you up:whistling:)


Bought my lenovo T61 in 2008, and haven't ever done any hardware modification to it.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/andygeofri/systeminfo.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/andygeofri/prop.jpg

the computer just seems slow with everything. Internet, loading excel, word, my photos, etc.

I have think vantage rescue and recovery, and haven't been able to back up my computer for quite some time, as it says I don't have enough free space. I need to address the problem sooner rather than later now that i'm in school and rely on my computer for school assignments.

I just heard a classmate mention getting a TB of memory for his laptop for only $~60. I think that's overkill for me, but what is your recommendation? think this would this fix my problems?


Thanks a bunch!

Patrick Graham
01-27-2011, 10:49
I wouldn't

Here's why:

1. Vista will work Great on 2 GB if you get rid of all the crap running in the background. Google "improving vista performance", look at the first ten responses. AND, above all, dump the crapware.

2. Increasing ram size will increase the page file size on an already garbaged up hard drive. Get rid of the useless crap on that drive.

havensal
01-27-2011, 10:52
You need hard drive space. Memory is different, not that a memory upgrade would hurt.

Step 1 would be uninstalling any software you don't use any more.

The better option is to back everything up on an external hard drive and format the drive to reinstall windows. This is not that hard if you are at all computer literate. :wavey:

Upgrading to Win7 would help too. Vista is slow, in my limited experience.

havensal
01-27-2011, 11:00
It looks like the max your laptop will handle is 4 gigs of ram.

But at 90% hard drive usage, that's where the slowdown is happening.

What do you have stored on there that is taking up that much space?

You say you can't back up because you don't have enough space. It sounds like you are backing everything up to the same hard drive you are running off. That is almost worthless. Think of that as copying all of your important papers and keeping them in a pile next to the originals. Not going to help much. You need to back everything up to either an external hard drive or DVD. That way if your hard drive bites the dust you have the backups.

Once you back everything up externally you can delete the backups on your laptop hard drive and clear up some space.

:wavey:

IndyGunFreak
01-27-2011, 11:01
You need hard drive space. Memory is different, not that a memory upgrade would hurt.

Step 1 would be uninstalling any software you don't use any more.

The better option is to back everything up on an external hard drive and format the drive to reinstall windows. This is not that hard if you are at all computer literate. :wavey:

Upgrading to Win7 would help too. Vista is slow, in my limited experience.

:agree:

HotRoderX
01-27-2011, 11:18
Hey yea you don't need more memory but more hard drive space. I wouldn't recommend buying a new hard drive until you have tried cleaning that one up a bit.

1st uninstall any old programs on the computer that you dont use also delete or backup any files you no longer use

2nd run the disk cleanup utility built into ever windows go to start > all programs > Accessories > System Tools > Disk Cleanup
(please keep in mind this might take a extremely extremely long time due to windows compresses unused system files and that can take hours and hours on older machines).

3. Look into CCleaer which is a freeware program on the Internet that has a utility like Disk Cleanup but checks a few more different areas.

4. Defrag the PC to do this the proper way (vista defrag is garbage
Start > Accessories > right click Command Prompt > Run as administrator > (should have a black window open) type in the following
"Defrag C:"
into that blank window with out the " that should start a manual defrag on the system

If that doesn't remedy it the next step is getting a new bigger hard drive which can be a real pain in the butt since u will end up having to start from scratch reloading not only windows but all your programs.

MrSmoofy
01-27-2011, 11:39
Couple of things. First off 11gig's free space I don't think it's a out of drive space issue like some of the others are saying.

Definitly probably to many background app's. I wouldn't call Visa slow I used it for several years, but Windows 7 is definitly faster. Also a fresh install of windows always speeds things up.

As for ram since your 32bit (do you know if you have a 64bit processor?) your actually can put 4gb in but windows will only use 3gb max on 32bit. If you have a 64bit processor install 64bit Windows 7 and add more ram (the amount you can have will depend on your computer).

My laptop I use everyday is Windows 7 x64 with 8gig's of ram and a 500gb hard drive.

Another way to speed things up if you have room for 2 drives get an SSD of about 40gb in size put just your OS and programs on it and keep all your data on a second drive. Windows will boot up in seconds on an SSD drive.

geofri
01-28-2011, 12:57
Thanks a lot guys!

I really don't know what I'm doing..(if ya couldn't tell:rofl:)

A lot of the stuff looks important, but I don't know if its necessary or not..

Would you mind scanning over the screenshots below, and maybe pointing out some of the stuff that could get deleted?
( it all looks important, and I don't know what some of it is. )

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/andygeofri/list1.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/andygeofri/list2.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/andygeofri/list3.jpg

I'm not sure why there are multiples of some stuff? ( Java, adobe...)

I'm tempted to just go wild and delete anything that I don't recognize.. but am afraid of messing up something bad and loosing files or something.
Thanks!

Sgt. Schultz
01-28-2011, 13:50
I'm tempted to just go wild and delete anything that I don't recognize.. but am afraid of messing up something bad and loosing files or something.


As long as you use the add/remove program and don't just delete programs you should be alright, here is a link to another post ...


http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1307061


... it can help you free up some space.

havensal
01-29-2011, 04:18
The only thing I see for sure is Mcafee. If you are running AVG for antivirus you don't need Mcafee also. Running 2 AV softwares at the same time will slow things down.

Do you have an Ipod? If not get rid of all of the Apple stuff and Bonjour.

unit 900
02-01-2011, 15:46
While you have quite a few programs most don't seem that large. I had a similar issue and ran a free program called WINDERSTAT. It shows you how your hard drive is being used what is on it. I had an issue with log files being written and my HD was about choked. The program showed me immediately where the issue was. Did I mention it's free and pretty small itself?

gemeinschaft
02-01-2011, 18:59
The only thing I see for sure is Mcafee. If you are running AVG for antivirus you don't need Mcafee also. Running 2 AV softwares at the same time will slow things down.

Do you have an Ipod? If not get rid of all of the Apple stuff and Bonjour.


Absolutely.

I would also recommend getting an external hard drive and backing up to your external Hard Drive. There is no telling how many copies of your backups you have stacked on your Hard Drive as others have mentioned.

What might be helpful is to see screenshots of what is running in PerfMon under processes. As well as what programs are listed in the Startup Tab in MSConfig. Eliminating programs that you don't need in MSConfig would at least reduce the bloatware that is running on your machine.

Chevytuff19
02-02-2011, 20:38
The only thing I see for sure is Mcafee. If you are running AVG for antivirus you don't need Mcafee also. Running 2 AV softwares at the same time will slow things down.

This.

I don't know how many times I have seen this issue slowing down computers. Also, it wouldn't hurt to download CCleaner as already recommended. It is great for reclaiming hard drive space. It can also clean up your registry, but if you don't have at least a little experience with registry entries, it might be best to leave that option alone.

GIockGuy24
02-03-2011, 05:28
Adobe Reader, SpywareBlaster and VLC media player and Java have newer versions available.

Adobe Reader

http://filehippo.com/download_adobe_reader/

SpywareBlaster

http://filehippo.com/download_spywareblaster/

VLC Media Player

http://filehippo.com/download_vlc/

Java

http://filehippo.com/download_jre_32/


Uninstall Mcafee anti-virus and AVG and install Microsoft Security Essentials. It runs much lighter than AVG. I just got an updated version of the program last night but this version will update to the newest version.

Microsoft Security Essentials for Windows Vista 32 bit

http://filehippo.com/download_security_essentials_vista/

LAWDOGKMS
02-03-2011, 05:39
What do you have stored on there that is taking up that much space?

:wavey:

Don't ask..Don't tell..:tongueout:

JimmyN
02-03-2011, 07:15
You can use the Windows search function to get a list of all the large files that are taking up the most space. From the list you will likely see some files you can delete, or programs you can uninstall that are taking a lot of space. Install files you have downloaded tend to be very large, and you frequently don't delete them after installation. The search function will find them for you.

Start>Search>Files and Folders
Leave the file name blank
Select 'Local Disk [C:]'
Under Advanced Options put a check in 'Size'
Use 'at least' 5000KB to list all files over 5megs, 10000KB for all files over 10megs, etc.
That will give you a list of all the "big" stuff and you can see what is taking up the most space.

Sgt. Schultz
02-03-2011, 12:38
You can use the Windows search function to get a list of all the large files that are taking up the most space. From the list you will likely see some files you can delete, or programs you can uninstall that are taking a lot of space. Install files you have downloaded tend to be very large, and you frequently don't delete them after installation. The search function will find them for you.

Start>Search>Files and Folders
Leave the file name blank
Select 'Local Disk [C:]'
Under Advanced Options put a check in 'Size'
Use 'at least' 5000KB to list all files over 5megs, 10000KB for all files over 10megs, etc.
That will give you a list of all the "big" stuff and you can see what is taking up the most space.



TreeSize Free work better ...

http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/

... and you can see where all your space is going.

I'd download the zipped executable and not the installer, no need to add to the problem.