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StoneDog
01-30-2011, 09:05
Hi Everyone,

Seeing as this is the big centennial anniversary of the 1911 I feel the need to finally add one to my collection.

My requirements (not necessarily in this order):
1) Commander-sized
2) Reasonably corrosion resistant (carrying IWB in Georgia = sweat covered gun)
3) Good sights
4) Reliable
5) Made in the USA

So far it looks like the STI Guardian, S&W 1911PD and Kimber Stainless Pro Carry II might fit the bill, although the STI is more expensive and the frame is only blued.

Any other options and if not which of these three would you pick (and why)? :-)

Jon

Hokie1911
01-30-2011, 09:13
Keep in mind that Kimber Pro is 4" if you are wanting a Kimber. The STI Guardian is also 4" on an officer size frame I believe.

STI Ranger2
Kimber Pro TLE2 (worth the extra $200 over the PC)
Kimber Pro CDP2

Quack
01-30-2011, 09:13
STI RangerII.

bac1023
01-30-2011, 09:34
I remember the days when you could get a Dan Wesson CBOB for a grand.

airflyer
01-30-2011, 09:47
I remember the days when you could get a Dan Wesson CBOB for a grand.

Not no more i think they are overpriced now , but nice gun

G27RR
01-30-2011, 09:47
Another vote for the STI Ranger II. It has a 4.15" barrel.

IANative
01-30-2011, 10:18
For true commander configuration, either the S&W or Colt.

The S&W deviates from the norm w/ an external extractor, but I believe they've done it better than anyone else. I've owned both the PD cmdr and the Gunsite cmdr, w/ zero trouble from either gun, extractor or otherwise. And the Scandium frame makes them a pleasure to carry.

youngAR
01-30-2011, 10:26
I don't know how much they run but the Wiley Clapp Colt looks great!

Ruggles
01-30-2011, 10:53
I would add Colt makes a nice Commander at that price point. I think they are adding the "100 Years Of Service" on the slide of all of their 1911s this year so that might be a nice bonus for you.

STI Ranger are a great choice, harder to find but a great choice. Brazos Guns has them I think.

Kimber Pro TLE (as stated above worth the extra over the Pro) is a great choice. The TLE version is heavier than the Pro if that is a factor.

bac1023
01-30-2011, 10:55
Another vote for the STI Ranger II. It has a 4.15" barrel.

Dan Wessons are all overpriced now, in my opinion.

Ruggles
01-30-2011, 11:12
Dan Wessons are all overpriced now, in my opinion.

They did seem to "forget" their ninch within the 1911 world. They were doing gangbusters business so I think they should have stayed where they were at :dunno:

Quack
01-30-2011, 11:18
They did seem to "forget" their ninch within the 1911 world. They were doing gangbusters business so I think they should have stayed where they were at :dunno:

it doesn't seem like the changes they did for 2010 would warrant the big price increase.
I blame it all on the COTEP fools :animlol:

edit: i did buy a DW Guardian, but that's because there was nothing else on the market like it and if i would bob a 9mm commander type gun, it would cost about the same, if not more if i went the Fusion route.

KB2MBC
01-30-2011, 11:22
S&W 1911PD, I like mine!

Ruggles
01-30-2011, 11:32
S&W 1911PD, I like mine!

A great suggestion as well.

oldsoldier
01-30-2011, 11:38
I have a S&W 1911ES. It's a nice size gun to carry. Officer length grip with a 4.25" slide and the scandium frame makes for a nice carry piece. I use flush fit SS 7rd mags from Checkmate with the hybrid feed lips. Feeds 200g LSWC, 200g LRN, 230g LRN, and 230g HST and RA45T without a single failure.

carguy2244
01-30-2011, 12:13
If you shop like I did, you'll be able to pick up a used Les Baer Concept or Commanche, for 1100 - 1200. I don't see how you'll find a better shooting/carrying 1911 for that price.
That said, I'd get a Glock 19, a load of ammo to practice, and gear to go with it.

StoneDog
01-30-2011, 12:44
If you shop like I did, you'll be able to pick up a used Les Baer Concept or Commanche, for 1100 - 1200. I don't see how you'll find a better shooting/carrying 1911 for that price.
That said, I'd get a Glock 19, a load of ammo to practice, and gear to go with it.

I've owned umpteen G19's and G23's, thanks. After a few years of not having them I seem to forget the fact that I can't shoot them well and go buy another... It is a vicious cycle that I am committed to breaking. Besides, right now I have a bigger XD40 and I consider that more than enough polymer. Looking for a good solid 1911 with allow or steel frame...

This is going to sound stupid, but I didn't realize Colt actually made 1911's anymore. I've never seen one in a local shop.

The only thing that's keeping me away from the STI is the blued frame. If I carry that IWB in July or August it will rust the first day I have it...

Ruggles
01-30-2011, 12:54
I've owned umpteen G19's and G23's, thanks. After a few years of not having them I seem to forget the fact that I can't shoot them well and go buy another... It is a vicious cycle that I am committed to breaking. Besides, right now I have a bigger XD40 and I consider that more than enough polymer. Looking for a good solid 1911 with allow or steel frame...

This is going to sound stupid, but I didn't realize Colt actually made 1911's anymore. I've never seen one in a local shop.

The only thing that's keeping me away from the STI is the blued frame. If I carry that IWB in July or August it will rust the first day I have it...

http://www.coltsmfg.com/

They do and they make nice 1911s IMO. Nothing wrong with a Colt, or at least the 4 I have owned. :wavey:

doc540
01-30-2011, 13:08
If you're vigilant and patient you can find Colt Combat Commanders from $700-$1000.

glock2740
01-30-2011, 13:19
Hi Everyone,

Seeing as this is the big centennial anniversary of the 1911 I feel the need to finally add one to my collection.

My requirements (not necessarily in this order):
1) Commander-sized
2) Reasonably corrosion resistant (carrying IWB in Georgia = sweat covered gun)
3) Good sights
4) Reliable
5) Made in the USA

So far it looks like the STI Guardian, S&W 1911PD and Kimber Stainless Pro Carry II might fit the bill, although the STI is more expensive and the frame is only blued.

Any other options and if not which of these three would you pick (and why)? :-)

Jon
Stainless TLE Pro. Checkered frontstrap, night sights, single side safety, aluminum frame. Hard to beat all that.

Ruggles
01-30-2011, 13:33
it doesn't seem like the changes they did for 2010 would warrant the big price increase.
I blame it all on the COTEP fools :animlol:

edit: i did buy a DW Guardian, but that's because there was nothing else on the market like it and if i would bob a 9mm commander type gun, it would cost about the same, if not more if i went the Fusion route.

Yeah they got a little "big headed" IMO. Still great guns but not great values IMO.

Quack
01-30-2011, 13:34
a little? :whistling:

Agent6-3/8
01-30-2011, 16:09
A S&W or Colt of your choice. Both are true commander sized guns, not 4" bull barrels.

bac1023
01-30-2011, 16:45
Yeah they got a little "big headed" IMO. Still great guns but not great values IMO.

a little? :whistling:

:rofl:

cole
01-30-2011, 20:03
Dan Wessons are all overpriced now, in my opinion.

Agreed. Once a great value, now nothing special in the price point. There are better 1911s at the DW price point, but, IMO, DW now banks that consumers won't know better. They're still a $1k 1911 IMO.

In Kimber, for CCW only, I'd consider the Kimber Pro CDP. Otherwise, the Pro TLE HD. I'd look for an SIS to avoid SII parts. Buy used and save $.

I prefer CCO. So, I still hope Sprinfield will make a 4.25" CCO. The LB Stinger is perfect; price sucks though.

BuckyP
01-30-2011, 21:05
In Kimber, for CCW only, I'd consider the Kimber Pro CDP. Otherwise, the Pro TLE HD. I'd look for an SIS to avoid SII parts. Buy used and save $.


The SIS Pro is a really nice gun, with nice features, traditional extractor and no firing pin safety. Some people can't get past the slide "serrations". :dunno:

AZ Husker
01-30-2011, 21:40
You just missed one of Kimber's finest Pro models on Gunbroker...the SLE. Limited edition series-I predecessor to the HD. Looked like new and went for just over $800.

ProCarryNAustin
01-31-2011, 08:14
Another vote fot the STI Ranger. Love mine!

StoneDog
01-31-2011, 11:36
Another vote fot the STI Ranger. Love mine!

I notice you're in Texas. Do you carry IWB and if so any problems with corrosion after a particularly humid/sweat day?

G27RR
01-31-2011, 12:34
I notice you're in Texas. Do you carry IWB and if so any problems with corrosion after a particularly humid/sweat day?

I haven't had any problems with my Ranger II (and I also live in TX), but the holsters I use cover the majority of the contact areas.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/Holsters/TuckerCoverUpwSTIRangerII.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/Holsters/TuckerTexasHeritagewRangerIIrear2.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/Holsters/CrossbreedQwikClipwSTIRangerII.jpg

HAIL CAESAR
01-31-2011, 19:56
Agreed. Once a great value, now nothing special in the price point. There are better 1911s at the DW price point, but, IMO, DW now banks that consumers won't know better. They're still a $1k 1911 IMO.


I was trying to stay out of this one, but the above statement goes a bot over the line.:faint:

Vanman2004b
01-31-2011, 21:07
:agree:

Ranger325
02-01-2011, 13:05
S&W 1911PD, I like mine!

I'm very happy with my Gunsite edition. Also, really like the looks of the Wiley Clapp gun, but I think the price may be a little north of where you want to be.

Regards,

woodrowNC
02-01-2011, 14:31
how about the colt commander. true 4 1/4, stainless slide, frame. a beavertail. combat hammer. last price was 774 at buds. plenty left over for ammo or some nice nite sites.

woodrowNC
02-01-2011, 14:43
http://www.coltsmfg.com/

They do and they make nice 1911s IMO. Nothing wrong with a Colt, or at least the 4 I have owned. :wavey:

they don't advertise as well as they should. that and the gun rags give them no respect. their qc has improved greatly since gen. whoever took over and they make very good 1911's. their customer service is very good, or has been to me. but i'm biased. it was the first 1911 i ever shot, owned, and have had several since. no probs with none. except a loose barrel link pin. and their 70 series, 1991a1s, look like a true 1911 should look like. not trying to offend anyone. jmo.

Z71bill
02-01-2011, 17:03
I never thought I would own a 1911 - then one day I saw a S&W1911PD - :hearts:

Ordered it the next day

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r128/z71bill/gun%20pics/P1000134.jpg

Now I want a full size 1911 - :upeyes:

Desert Lake
02-02-2011, 11:27
I just picked up a Kimber Stainless Pro TLE/RL II, which is great. First range day was 200 rnds of varied ammo,icluding XTPs, Gold Dots, FMJ, and frangibles. It shot extremely well, and not a singe issue.

quantico
02-02-2011, 20:28
If you're vigilant and patient you can find Colt Combat Commanders from $700-$1000.

I am going to try your plan and see if I can find one in that price range.

quantico
02-02-2011, 20:31
they don't advertise as well as they should. that and the gun rags give them no respect. their qc has improved greatly since gen. whoever took over and they make very good 1911's. their customer service is very good, or has been to me. but i'm biased. it was the first 1911 i ever shot, owned, and have had several since. no probs with none. except a loose barrel link pin. and their 70 series, 1991a1s, look like a true 1911 should look like. not trying to offend anyone. jmo.
I have been trying to buy several colt models they are very hard to find.

kymarkh
02-02-2011, 20:37
I've seen several 1911PD's on the forums but I've always been a day late and a dollar short... mostly the dollor short part. I think the 1911PD Gunsite model is damn near perfect for a lightweight commander and should be fairly rust resistant to boot with the melonite finish. I just need to find a nice used one for sale somewhere...

rsxr22
02-02-2011, 20:56
STI Ranger II, hands down best gun for the money imo

woodrowNC
02-03-2011, 07:22
STI Ranger II, hands down best gun for the money imo

i would love to have an sti, if they would let me pick about 5 things that are not listed in the options. i know they're great guns just from reading these posts, but there's only one i'm interested in and i already have a 3 in colt that feeds anything. and there's a couple of things i want to change on that.