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cdunn
02-04-2011, 18:22
one of these will be my next pistol, any owners with good or bad exp.?

Hokie1911
02-04-2011, 18:24
Never held a Stinger but the CQB Compact is saweeeet. :drool:

GeorgiaRedfish
02-04-2011, 18:26
Never held a Stinger but the CQB Compact is saweeeet. :drool:
Don't listen to Hokie he doesn't even own a 1911:rofl:

Quack
02-04-2011, 18:29
Cqb....

Hokie1911
02-04-2011, 18:40
Don't listen to Hokie he doesn't even own a 1911:rofl:

Yeah, what do I know? Not much.

Ruggles
02-04-2011, 19:25
CQB Compact, everyone knows the more word that are in the model name make the gun better.

Love the Wilsons but some of the model names are too long IMO.

CQB Light-Rail Lightweight Professional

CQB Light-Rail Lightweight Compact

Ultralight Carry Sentinel

Too long. :rofl:

I still vote CQB

rsxr22
02-04-2011, 19:51
CQB Compact, everyone knows the more word that are in the model name make the gun better.

Love the Wilsons but some of the model names are too long IMO.

CQB Light-Rail Lightweight Professional

CQB Light-Rail Lightweight Compact

Ultralight Carry Sentinel

Too long. :rofl:

I still vote CQB
They are long, but its not like they put them on the gun.

CQB hands down! We have one with the stainless upgrade for sale right now. And yes Im still taking the CQB minus the sales plug:cool:

thecableguy
02-04-2011, 20:17
They are long, but its not like they put them on the gun.

CQB hands down! We have one with the stainless upgrade for sale right now. And yes Im still taking the CQB minus the sales plug:cool:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r22/thundrr1/2a.jpg :whistling:

rsxr22
02-04-2011, 20:20
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r22/thundrr1/2a.jpg :whistling:

LOL sadly enough ours doesnt have the 2 1/2 inch lettering.

Officer's Match
02-04-2011, 22:29
one of these will be my next pistol, any owners with good or bad exp.?

Daily CCW or just because?

Rimcrew
02-04-2011, 23:06
For carry/competition; Stinger. For Range/showing off; CQB.

I've had both; still have the Stingers...

Officer's Match
02-04-2011, 23:08
For carry/competition; Stinger. For Range/showing off; CQB.

I've had both; still have the Stingers...

Pretty much sums it up IMO, but you gotta' shoot the Stinger in, as LB's are as tight as they say.

Hokie1911
02-04-2011, 23:17
For carry/competition; Stinger. For Range/showing off; CQB.

I've had both; still have the Stingers...

What did you not like about the WC?

Goldendog Redux
02-04-2011, 23:19
<-----Has a Wilson. Has desperately wanted a Stinger for a very long time.

MF

thecableguy
02-04-2011, 23:22
When the time comes for me to get a Baer it is going to be a Stinger.

glock2740
02-04-2011, 23:25
I vote Wilson, and I LOVE my LB TRS. Wilson just makes a better gun.

Rimcrew
02-04-2011, 23:29
Wilson just makes a better gun.

How so?

Rimcrew
02-04-2011, 23:33
What did you not like about the WC?

It's not that I did not like the Wilson; in fact, it was my favorite CCO style until I got the Stinger. I just like the way the Stinger feels and shoots. It's purely a subjective determination on my part, but the Baers feel more substantial. How's that for a scientific analysis? :rofl:

Either will serve you well. The Stinger will save you a few hun.

BTW - I still have a CQB-E. Had to keep a token Wilson around to keep the Baers company...

glock2740
02-04-2011, 23:39
How so?
Don't get me wrong, as I like Baer's and love my TRS. But Wilson's are more refined. As for accuracy, I realize that Baer has a 3" @ 50 yard guarantee. But Wilson has a 1" @ 25 yard guarantee, which equals 2 " @ 50 yards. The fit and finish of a Baerv is NOT what a fit and finish of a Wilson is. Period. I know you're are LB fan, as am I, but as an owner of both and a shooter of several, I believe that in this case, you get what you pay for. Wilson's cost a little more, but they're a little better.

glock2740
02-04-2011, 23:42
It's purely a subjective determination on my part, but the Baers feel more substantial. How's that for a scientific analysis? :rofl:

Either will serve you well. The Stinger will save you a few hun.


I agree. :thumbsup:

cole
02-05-2011, 00:14
LB Stinger Stainless (as long as it will slingshot). I want the 4.25" bushing barrel. And, I'll save some money, too.

cdunn
02-05-2011, 05:51
Daily CCW or just because?

both(,my reply is too short)

cdunn
02-05-2011, 05:51
For carry/competition; Stinger. For Range/showing off; CQB.

I've had both; still have the Stingers...

that says alot.

LB Stinger Stainless (as long as it will slingshot). I want the 4.25" bushing barrel. And, I'll save some money, too.

there is about a $500 diff.I can't decide if ,to me there is $500 more gun in a wilson

while I'm thinking about it what mags.are currently being used,I was thinking about tripps or wilsons

Ridgerunner665
02-05-2011, 06:29
I have no complaints about my Stinger...matter of fact, it is easily the best pistol I've ever owned...


http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/120_2027-1.jpg

cdunn
02-05-2011, 08:41
I have no complaints about my Stinger...matter of fact, it is easily the best pistol I've ever owned...



what mags. are you using?

lawdog734
02-05-2011, 08:43
I would go with the Wilson just because I slingshot the slide and some people have had troubles with the baer's not doing that

Officer's Match
02-05-2011, 09:12
I would go with the Wilson just because I slingshot the slide and some people have had troubles with the baer's not doing that

I haven't had a Stinger (yet) but my Commanche slingshotted from day one.

Officer's Match
02-05-2011, 09:15
I vote Wilson, and I LOVE my LB TRS. Wilson just makes a better gun.

From my own Wilson / Baer comparisons, I'd say Wilson makes a nicer gun and Baer makes a better gun. YMMV. Disclaimer: I've never had a Super Grade Wilson - that I'd bet would better most Baers.

Hokie1911
02-05-2011, 09:18
I would be happy to own either. :supergrin:

HAIL CAESAR
02-05-2011, 09:33
I haven't had a Stinger (yet) but my Commanche slingshotted from day one.

Have you had a chance to compare the Commanche slide travel to a Officer/Defender size gun, or measured it?

That is my issue with the Commanche/Stinger line from Baer, and I'm a Baer fan. But if you have a Commander or CCO sized gun that has the slide travel of a 3 1/2 or 3 inch slide gun.....you might as well have a 3 1/2 or 3 inch gun.

I would recommend the WC, unless you can see the Baer first and measure the slide travel.

lawdog734
02-05-2011, 09:40
Have you had a chance to compare the Commanche slide travel to a Officer/Defender size gun, or measured it?

That is my issue with the Commanche/Stinger line from Baer, and I'm a Baer fan. But if you have a Commander or CCO sized gun that has the slide travel of a 3 1/2 or 3 inch slide gun.....you might as well have a 3 1/2 or 3 inch gun.

I would recommend the WC, unless you can see the Baer first and measure the slide travel.

Is that why you can't sling shot some of them? By measuring do you mean how far back the slide goes? I have been looking at both of these guns too.

Quack
02-05-2011, 09:43
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16628103&postcount=40

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16629526&postcount=46


http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7769
http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/01092009/12286314571.jpg

glock2740
02-05-2011, 09:57
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16628103&postcount=40

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16629526&postcount=46

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/01092009/12286314571.jpg
I'm surprised the "mod squad" over there let that go on for more than a page without banning someone for life. :rofl: No post for you! Bunch of clowns running that site. :rofl:

lawdog734
02-05-2011, 09:57
Thanks quack

Rimcrew
02-05-2011, 11:33
there is about a $500 diff.I can't decide if ,to me there is $500 more gun in a wilson

You are mostly paying for a lifetime warranty. They are definitly more refined, but I still think the Baers are more solid guns.

while I'm thinking about it what mags.are currently being used,I was thinking about tripps or wilsons

I would highly recommend the Tripps. They are the best out there, IMHO.

BTW - I am 50/50 on sling-shotting; two of my stingers did it from the box, one did not, and my one TRS Commanche did not. The good news is that it's a simple fix for a good smith, and won't cost much to correct...

Good luck with your decision. As I said, you will be happy either way!

Hokie1911
02-05-2011, 11:55
Kind of like deciding between the Benz or the BMW. You win.

GeorgiaRedfish
02-05-2011, 12:11
Kind of like deciding between the Benz or the BMW. You win.
You're a glass half full kind of guy aren't you?

thecableguy
02-05-2011, 12:51
You are mostly paying for a lifetime warranty. They are definitly more refined, but I still think the Baers are more solid guns.

I don't own a Baer yet, I do have a WC on layaway right now though. The reason I went with a WC first is because they give you the ability to customize your gun any way you want it, even as far as installing other manufactures' parts if you send it in to them. Their customer service might be the best among the semi-custom builders (from everything that i have read about it) and like Rim pointed out the lifetime warranty and they seem to be more refined. That is the reason I went for a WC before a Baer.

cdunn
02-05-2011, 12:57
well, I'm not a sling shoter,I was told if you have the ability to push a little mag. release button under stress you can operate a slidelock under stress.which has been true for me.what kind of warranty does Baer have?

Hokie1911
02-05-2011, 13:02
You're a glass half full kind of guy aren't you?

Not really. I'm actually the eternal pessimist. In this case, I agree with Rim...there's no bad choice and the OP will be happy either way. I think once you get to the Brown/Baer/Guncrafter/NH/WC/SACS pricepoint...you're going to get a great gun regardless of what you choose.

Ridgerunner665
02-05-2011, 13:05
what mags. are you using?

Excellent question...

I have found Tripp Gen II CobraMags (hybrid followers) to be the best in my pistol...with other mags (all brands), that last round from the mag was "iffy".

That is 7 round mags...with 6 round mags any old cheap mag works just fine...its all in the spring rate.

awpk03s
02-05-2011, 13:09
For a long time I have really liked the SS Les Baer Stinger model, and thought of adding one someday.

However - my next semi-custom 1911 will be either a Wilson of Guncrafter. I have been really impressed with everything I have read and witnessed from Wilson in terms of service and support. On the flip side, heard a lot of horror stories about Baer service, and "voiding" the warranty. As it's already been mentioned, there are MUCH more customization options for Wilson as well.

GeorgiaRedfish
02-05-2011, 13:29
Not really. I'm actually the eternal pessimist. In this case, I agree with Rim...there's no bad choice and the OP will be happy either way. I think once you get to the Brown/Baer/Guncrafter/NH/WC/SACS pricepoint...you're going to get a great gun regardless of what you choose.
No Kimber custom? Hater...

glock2740
02-05-2011, 13:31
I think once you get to the Brown/Baer/Guncrafter/NH/WC/SACS pricepoint...you're going to get a great gun regardless of what you choose.
I agree and will even add, that while, IMO, Wilson makes a better gun than Baer, I will say that for the money that Baers cost, you get alot of gun for your money. I'm a huge fan of all of the guns mentioned above. And hope to eventually own at least one from each company. :)

awpk03s
02-05-2011, 13:40
I'm a huge fan of all of the guns mentioned above. And hope to eventually own at least one from each company. :)


I agree here. I think variety is good, and I hope to add some more to my collection over the upcoming years. My Nighthawks are very finely crafted weapons, but I think my money in the future will go in other directions, likely Wilson.

Rimcrew
02-05-2011, 13:43
No Kimber custom? Realist...

:rofl:

Hokie1911
02-05-2011, 14:03
Realist. Bwahaahhaa.

Nickpisp
02-05-2011, 14:07
No Kimber custom? Hater...

Listen A-hole, my gun says "Kimber Custom Shop" on the side, are you telling me that's a lie???

GeorgiaRedfish
02-05-2011, 14:09
Listen A-hole, my gun says "Kimber Custom Shop" on the side, are you telling me that's a lie???
No I am telling you, you are a SUCKER! Your mouth looks like this:whistling:

Nickpisp
02-05-2011, 14:14
No I am telling you, you are a SUCKER! Your mouth looks like this:whistling:

That's because I'm whistling.

GeorgiaRedfish
02-05-2011, 14:15
That's because I'm whistling.
Whistling Dicksee

Hokie1911
02-05-2011, 14:16
Listen A-hole, my gun says "Kimber Custom Shop" on the side, are you telling me that's a lie???

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Rimcrew
02-05-2011, 14:38
Here's a question to ponder: Is all steel created equal?

GVFlyer
02-05-2011, 14:55
I haven't had a Stinger (yet) but my Commanche slingshotted from day one.

Mine, too.

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/Baer_TRS_Commanche-1.jpg?t=1296939252

GeorgiaRedfish
02-05-2011, 15:03
Here's a question to ponder: Is all steel created equal?
Not in a MIMber:whistling:

glock2740
02-05-2011, 15:10
Mine, too.

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/xm813/Baer_TRS_Commanche-1.jpg?t=1296939252
That's what I'm talking about. I need that to go with my NP3+ finished 5" TRS. :cool:


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/TRSleft.jpg

Officer's Match
02-05-2011, 15:31
Listen A-hole, my gun says "Kimber Custom Shop" on the side, are you telling me that's a lie???

Well, yes, it is.

cdunn
02-06-2011, 20:03
well,i've more looking and the wilson is out but a Nighthawk t3 is possible,I also like the idea of a bushing and 4.25" barrel.