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Restless28
02-11-2011, 12:16
How does the Ruger LCP stack up against the Glock sub-compacts like the 26 and 27, as far as a comfortable carry gun in all climates?

I'm not asking about ballistics. I'm asking about the carry opinions from owners about the LCP.

Is is reliable? Do you like your LCP?

Shadyscott69
02-11-2011, 12:19
How does the Ruger LCP stack up against the Glock sub-compacts like the 26 and 27, as far as a comfortable carry gun in all climates?

I'm not asking about ballistics. I'm asking about the carry opinions from owners about the LCP.

Is is reliable? Do you like your LCP?

If you tapped about 4 LCP's together, you might equal the size & weight of a G26. Completely apples and oranges.

My LCP has been flawless for several hundred rounds. It is probably one of the easiest guns to carry ever made.

Trey83
02-11-2011, 12:22
My LCP is the only gun I own that I can't imagine letting go. Mine has been flawless for hundreds of rounds after installing wolff springs and polishing the feed ramp. It is significantly smaller than a a Glock 26.

frank_drebin
02-11-2011, 12:24
No comparison. The LCP wins hands-down in a "Comfort of Carry" comparison. When you are sitting in you booth at the restaurant, sitting in your cube at work, standing in line at the bank, sitting in a college classroom, walking down Peachtree Street for a night at the Fox, etc... and someone decides to start shooting everyone he sees the benefits of the LCP fade quickly in to the darkness. Which one do you want when your life depends on it. What level of risk are you willing to take?

Trey83
02-11-2011, 12:32
No comparison. The LCP wins hands-down in a "Comfort of Carry" comparison. When you are sitting in you booth at the restaurant, sitting in your cube at work, standing in line at the bank, sitting in a college classroom, walking down Peachtree Street for a night at the Fox, etc... and someone decides to start shooting everyone he sees the benefits of the LCP fade quickly in to the darkness. Which one do you want when your life depends on it. What level of risk are you willing to take?
I would want to have the LCP in my pocket than the 26 that is in the night stand. I don't recommend the LCP as a primary carry gun but there are times when one might not even be able to conceal a G26 and that is where the LCP comes into play.

Bilbo Bagins
02-11-2011, 12:39
The difference is night and day my friend.

http://www.reviewsofthings.com/images/pistol_grips_made_from_bicycle_tube.jpg

Glock 27 on the right, Ruger LCP on the left

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/photo3.jpg

CharlestonG26
02-11-2011, 12:43
There's no doubt that the LCP is better than nothing or even better than a knife. On balance...I don't consider the LCP (or any of the 22, 32, or 380 "mouse guns") to be an adequate SD firearm.

In the rare situation that I encounter a life-threatening situation...I want something a hell of a lot more serious than a Ruger LCP.

CBennett
02-11-2011, 12:56
If you tapped about 4 LCP's together, you might equal the size & weight of a G26. Completely apples and oranges.

My LCP has been flawless for several hundred rounds. It is probably one of the easiest guns to carry ever made.

Agreed 100%...its not even a comparison..the LCP is a lot easier and better to carry..but then you have the caliber issue anyways..but its like asking whats easier/better to pocket carry..a snubnose concealed hammer revolver or a 4" police Duty model..

CBennett
02-11-2011, 12:58
The difference is night and day my friend.

http://www.reviewsofthings.com/images/pistol_grips_made_from_bicycle_tube.jpg

Glock 27 on the right, Ruger LCP on the left

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/photo3.jpg

Great picutre..the 27/26 platform for those that can handle Glocks is a good platform..but simply its not in the same category as the LCP for CONCEALABILITY/EASE of carry.

frank_drebin
02-11-2011, 13:01
I would want to have the LCP in my pocket than the 26 that is in the night stand. I don't recommend the LCP as a primary carry gun but there are times when one might not even be able to conceal a G26 and that is where the LCP comes into play.

Each person has their own level of acceptable risk. I admit, I carry a P3AT from time to time but I know going in to it that it is not "ideal".

ithaca_deerslayer
02-11-2011, 13:05
How does the Ruger LCP stack up against the Glock sub-compacts like the 26 and 27, as far as a comfortable carry gun in all climates?

I'm not asking about ballistics. I'm asking about the carry opinions from owners about the LCP.

Is is reliable? Do you like your LCP?

The Ruger LCP is a small feather.
The Glock 26 is a medium brick.

I like both, but (in rounded numbers from memory):

Ruger = 9oz empty
Glock = 20oz empty

Ruger slide = .75"
Glock slide = 1"

Ruger overall width = .8"
Glock overall width = 1.2"

Ruger overall length = 5.2"
Glock overall length = 6.2"

I don't know how the numbers read to you, but in actuality it is a big difference. Also, the shape of the slide on the Ruger is more rounded at the corners than the Glock.

In general, all other things equal, I'd say in summer t-shirt carry:

Ruger doesn't print IWB.
Glock does print IWB.

Ruger does easily pocket carry.
Glock doesn't easily pocket carry.

Something like that :) The conclusion from that should be that the LCP is easier to carry. But the Glock is still easy to carry, you just need to accept the weight and wear a cover shirt.

NDCent
02-11-2011, 13:11
The pictures above should show which is going to carry and conceal easier between a subcompact and an LCP. You said you weren't asking about ballistics, but a better comparison would be the new LC9 against the G26, at least you'd be comparing the same calibers.

Restless28
02-11-2011, 13:23
The difference is night and day my friend.

http://www.reviewsofthings.com/images/pistol_grips_made_from_bicycle_tube.jpg

Glock 27 on the right, Ruger LCP on the left

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/photo3.jpg

I'm a bit taken aback by the size differences. :wow:

G26S239
02-11-2011, 13:38
I'm a bit taken aback by the size differences. :wow:
The size differences are way more dramatic holding them side by side than reading the numbers.

poodleplumber
02-11-2011, 16:52
The LCP is very much smaller and lighter, BUT . . .

. . . I am a medical professional living in hot, humid south Florida, and I have never been without my G26 in the two years since I bought it. I have not encountered a situation where I could be legally armed but could not conceal the G26. Light sport coats, tail-out shirts, and so forth work fine for concealment with a good IWB holster and belt. It definitely can be done.

Restless28
02-11-2011, 17:16
Well, I'm struggling to like the G27, to be honest. I've tried the GAP plate, a Pierce +0, and the regular mag. I've tried the different backstraps, too.

I've been spoiled with the HK USP grip. It's like night and day. Even though the USP is much bigger, it's more comfortable and points naturally for me.

I've yet to find the "compromise gun". I've had a G19, a G22, a G21, a G27 (now), and, only the G22 seemed "somewhat comfortable".

I'm ready to give up.

rfd339
02-11-2011, 17:49
I sold my lcp because I like my Bersa conceal carry 380 and S&W 642 j/frame better for pocket carry. I never warmed up to it. Sorry your having issues with the g27 , I own and carry one regularly . If it's the larger grip or grip angle then you might need to search elsewhere. A good subcompact glock alternative is a thinner Walther PPS 9mm or 40sw . I want the 9mm version myself.

unit1069
02-11-2011, 20:07
I went with a small 9mm over the even smaller .380ACP.

I just feel more confident with a caliber that is 66% more powerful when my life in on the line.

Jakemug
02-11-2011, 20:16
With a Nemesis front pocket holster, my P3AT (same thing as an LCP, especially size-wise) simply replaced my wallet and is extremely comfortable. Jeans, slacks, it doesn't matter. It's always there, doesn't move around, doesn't fall out, and draws quickly. I know I couldn't do this with any Glock, just too wide and heavy in comparison. Here's a pic for a little size reference:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q74/jakemug/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTEwMjExLTAwMDE4LmpwZw.jpg

Again, speaking of front pocket carry only, there is no comparison.

Manofprint
02-11-2011, 20:20
I have them both. Both r great. I prefer to carry the glock.
But I usually toss the LCP in the pocket

Warp
02-11-2011, 20:22
No comparison. The LCP wins hands-down in a "Comfort of Carry" comparison. When you are sitting in you booth at the restaurant, sitting in your cube at work, standing in line at the bank, sitting in a college classroom, walking down Peachtree Street for a night at the Fox, etc... and someone decides to start shooting everyone he sees the benefits of the LCP fade quickly in to the darkness. Which one do you want when your life depends on it. What level of risk are you willing to take?

I'm going with this.

This why I own a G26. And a G19. And a 642. But I sold my P3AT and have not seriously considered purchasing anything similar.

ArtificialGrape
02-11-2011, 20:23
My LCP is a great gun and has been 100% reliable, but there are very few situations, for me, when the PM9 could not be carried instead. Pocket carry for me is usually PM9, and IWB is 26/19/23, but the LCP does fill a niche.

-ArtificialGrape

MadMonkey
02-11-2011, 20:28
The LCP is my "throw it in the pocket when I run out for fast food" and such gun. I don't PREFER it as a primary, but it sure is easy to conceal... with a pocket holster, it'll fit almost anywhere.

wrenrj1
02-11-2011, 20:34
Got both, carry both (along with the G-19 as you might as well throw that in the mix). Depends on the situation. The LCP is great for pocket carry, IMHO the G-26 is a bit big but still concealable.

BicycleDay43
02-11-2011, 22:19
How does the Ruger LCP stack up against the Glock sub-compacts like the 26 and 27, as far as a comfortable carry gun in all climates?

I'm not asking about ballistics. I'm asking about the carry opinions from owners about the LCP.

Is is reliable? Do you like your LCP?

My LCP was terrible, went back to the factory three times before they refunded me. It's Kel-tec .380 replacement has been fine.

TSAX
02-11-2011, 23:11
The difference is night and day my friend.

http://www.reviewsofthings.com/images/pistol_grips_made_from_bicycle_tube.jpg

Glock 27 on the right, Ruger LCP on the left

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/photo3.jpg

Whats in the middle?

Restless28
02-12-2011, 05:36
How does the snubby revolver compare to the LCP in size/carry?

CBennett
02-12-2011, 05:41
The LCP is my "throw it in the pocket when I run out for fast food" and such gun. I don't PREFER it as a primary, but it sure is easy to conceal... with a pocket holster, it'll fit almost anywhere.

this is what I want one for..just the quick out to the store and back on the day off while relaxing..when I dont want to go get "proper" belt and pants on to put on the SR9c..Now if im going places and know it and its not a last minute thing..then I dress for the SR9c.

CBennett
02-12-2011, 05:46
How does the snubby revolver compare to the LCP in size/carry?

LCP is just still smaller...no cylinder bulge, lighter,obviously thinner, a bit smaller..but as we all know its still a .380 and as everyone also knows you have to weigh the convenience/comfort factor of the .380 LCP VS the bigger stature of a single stack 9mm(Taurus 709,Ruger lc-9,Kimber Solo Carry,Kahr CW9,Walther PPS) and a .38 Special or even the .357(I guess even the new .327) with 158 grain bullets out of a snubby and which you feel best with as the trade off.

Maine
02-12-2011, 10:40
I've had 3 LCPs that all worked fine through roughly 200 rounds a piece.

Reb 56
02-12-2011, 11:23
For ease of carry LCP for ease of mind G26.

Restless28
02-12-2011, 16:54
Today was the first time to carry the G27. Believe it or not, I carried it in the front pocket of my 5.11 pants. Yes, it printed, but the pants fit loose. I wanted to try it out, and, no, I didn't go for the nachos. With, a proper holster, I could conceal this pretty easy.

G26S239
02-12-2011, 17:27
How does the snubby revolver compare to the LCP in size/carry?
12 oz loaded with 95 grain ball versus 17.6 oz for my 642 with 5 rounds of 135 SB +Ps. 642 is 1.36" wide cylinder, 1.31" grips, LCP is .818" @ widest spot.

http://i53.tinypic.com/ofxbts.jpg

NailShooter
02-12-2011, 18:12
Today was the first time to carry the G27. Believe it or not, I carried it in the front pocket of my 5.11 pants. Yes, it printed, but the pants fit loose.... With, a proper holster, I could conceal this pretty easy.

I've pocket carried a 27 daily for two yrs (I know, somebody will post that it "can't be done"). Get an Alabama pocket holster, they're fairly thin kydex and spread the weight around really well. Just LOVE that holster. Looks like a wallet in my right front pocket. Have an LCP, carry that one on occasion too. Both great guns and 100% reliable in my experience. Regards,

Nail

Restless28
02-12-2011, 18:49
I did get to handle a LCP this week, and, I really liked the little gun. I could see the merits of the size, and I would probably be more apt to carry it everywhere. If I buy one, and keep the USP, then the G27 becomes odd-man out. The HK is growing on me, and I prefer the DA/SA and the overall feel. I like the decocker, and feel more comfortable with it with one in the chamber than I do a Glock.

I need to buy a good holster for the USP, and try it out as a carry gun. It's already the first gun I would grab for HD. It's just that comfortable to me.

I took some pics of the 27 and the USP together, and other than grip length and slide length, there isn't much difference in weight. The HK actually feels slimmer, which is surprising.

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq340/jackcassid/SU1HMDAwODctMjAxMTAyMTItMTczMS5qcGc.jpghttp://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq340/jackcassid/SU1HMDAwODQtMjAxMTAyMTItMTczMC5qcGc.jpg

Restless28
02-12-2011, 18:50
I have also caught the N-frame bug lately, and those mountain gun pics ain't helpin'

01GlockFan
02-12-2011, 18:58
The LCP is by far the easier of the two to carry depending on your attire. The only place I carry my LCP is on my ankle when my attire does not permit me to carry my G27. My G27 in an M-Tac holster by far is my favorite carry for SD purposes. However, my LCP beats throwing stones or not carrying.
My $0.02

wingspar
02-12-2011, 19:21
hickock45 on the Ruger LCP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrE371hU8m4).

fire65
02-12-2011, 20:07
I carry the G23 and LCP. No comparison in the two, the LCP is one that will always be with you. It fits very well in my bathrobe pocket.

JGguns
02-12-2011, 20:36
It's really no comparison lcp fits like a wallet, g26 like a frickin nextel lol. However the g26 vanishes in my crossbreed. I live both guns. I prefer my g26 but in the summer the lcp makes the trip more often. If I am wearing pants or jeans the 26 rides on my ankle and my lcp is wear it always is in my back pocket.

Short answer, lcp is easier and more comfortable to carry

Jowens
02-12-2011, 20:59
There's no doubt that the LCP is better than nothing or even better than a knife. On balance...I don't consider the LCP (or any of the 22, 32, or 380 "mouse guns") to be an adequate SD firearm.

In the rare situation that I encounter a life-threatening situation...I want something a hell of a lot more serious than a Ruger LCP.

I agree. I got rid of my LCP and picked up a Kel Tec PF9. That's the smallest I'll go for an SD carry weapon.

MajesticLT03
02-12-2011, 21:12
here is another comparison shot... although the Glock in the pics is a 19 it still shows the size difference..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/IcemanZX3/Glock19007.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/IcemanZX3/Glock19008.jpg

DEADEYEGUY
02-13-2011, 01:46
IMHO the LCP, Kel Tec P3AT and guns like that are niche guns. They work as a BUG. They work in situations in which it is the only gun you can carry because of the requirments for something smaller than the Glocks, XDSc, or J-frames. if I had the choice of a G26-G27 or something of that type vs. an LCP their is no one I would carry the LCP except as a BUG for the other guns. LCP or no gun at all. LCP.

CharlestonG26
02-13-2011, 09:19
The LCP is my "throw it in the pocket when I run out for fast food" and such gun. I don't PREFER it as a primary, but it sure is easy to conceal... with a pocket holster, it'll fit almost anywhere.

IMO...fast food restaurants, gas stations, ATMs, etc are "danger zones". They are exactly the areas that I'd want something more appropriate for SD than a Ruger LCP or any other easy to carry, mouse gun.

brisk21
02-13-2011, 09:53
If you tapped about 4 LCP's together, you might equal the size & weight of a G26. Completely apples and oranges.

My LCP has been flawless for several hundred rounds. It is probably one of the easiest guns to carry ever made.


This. I always carry my LCP. I almost never carry my G26. My LCP is reliable and I am plety comfortable w/.380.

tampashooters
02-13-2011, 11:04
Whats in the middle?

Looks like a Taurus 709
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/27308/2097028360100259265S600x600Q85.jpg

LCP, Glock 26, FN9-M, Glock 17
http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/33684/2210351920100259265S600x600Q85.jpg

TXFreefaller
02-13-2011, 11:10
I don't own an LCP, but my buddy does and I have had time to handle it fairly often and fire it on one occasion. I do own a Gen4 G17 (obviously not sub-compact) but have been around those as well. In my opinion the Glock is the way to go. I have larger hands and the Glock just feels better to me. If that isn't an issue, then you may love the LCP just like my friend.

Dandapani
02-13-2011, 11:26
For carry, Glock == Block.

ithaca_deerslayer
02-14-2011, 09:37
Well, I'm struggling to like the G27, to be honest. I've tried the GAP plate, a Pierce +0, and the regular mag. I've tried the different backstraps, too.

I've been spoiled with the HK USP grip. It's like night and day. Even though the USP is much bigger, it's more comfortable and points naturally for me.

I've yet to find the "compromise gun". I've had a G19, a G22, a G21, a G27 (now), and, only the G22 seemed "somewhat comfortable".

I'm ready to give up.

What type of gun, what type of compromise are you looking for?

Have you tried:

Kahr P9 or PM9 ?
Snubbie .38 ?

Just for the fun of it here's a review of my wife's new EMP single stack 9mm, about the same size as the Glock 26, but slimmer.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1318293

ithaca_deerslayer
02-14-2011, 09:39
How does the snubby revolver compare to the LCP in size/carry?

The snubbie is bigger, but carries much easier than a Glock 26.

The cylinder is the only wide spot, and it conceals easy. Mostly the gun is thinner in the barrel, and more rounded overall, so it doesn't print as much as a square semi-auto.

Bilbo Bagins
02-14-2011, 10:37
Looks like a Taurus 709
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/27308/2097028360100259265S600x600Q85.jpg

LCP, Glock 26, FN9-M, Glock 17
http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/33684/2210351920100259265S600x600Q85.jpg

+1 I backtracked my search and its a Taurus 709

Glenn129
02-14-2011, 10:40
I wanted a pocket pistol, now own the LCP, love it. I carry a Glock for a sidearm and love it.

gregchico
02-14-2011, 16:11
Whats in the middle?

It is an LCP, Taurus 709, then a G27. I know as I took that picture...
Here is the original post it is from and more size pictures:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=332109

AK47Man
02-13-2012, 11:23
The LCP is a great CCW gun...BUT...The trigger pull SUCKS....

hardbargin
02-13-2012, 13:08
How does the Ruger LCP stack up against the Glock sub-compacts like the 26 and 27, as far as a comfortable carry gun in all climates?

I'm not asking about ballistics. I'm asking about the carry opinions from owners about the LCP.

Is is reliable? Do you like your LCP?

man up. stay w/the glock.:supergrin:

SpringerTGO
02-13-2012, 13:30
I own a G26 and a P3at. There is absolutely no comparison for CCW. The P3at is easy to take anywhere. The G26 is a small brick. I need a good belt belt designed for carry to carry the G26, and it is bulky and heavy. My 1911's (even the 5") carry easier than the G26 because of their width.
This is not to knock the G26. It's an awesome weapon, and I know I am better armed with it than with most of the guns I own. But for CCW, it is not the easiest gun to carry comfortably IWB.

John Biltz
02-13-2012, 14:04
I just recently bought a LCP and have been carrying a G26 for a few years. Ease of carry; no brainer for the LCP. You could probably get away with carrying it down the street concealed by nothing but your hand most of the time. But... let me add a couple of more ... it is not the gun I would choose to be armed with while defending myself or mine. The sights are nigh non-existent. Being that small makes recoil difficult and follow up shots slow and you don't have many of them either and its in a sub service grade caliber. A G26 is a gun that still handles well, I'd say extremely well, has 10+ rounds in a service sized caliber and has real sights. Its a gun cut down to make it easier to carry but not so far as to sacrifice fighting ability. If I was fighting a G26 I would not be wishing I was holding a G17 but if I was fighting a LCP I'd be wishing I was holding something, anything else. An LCP is what you carry when you can't carry a real gun or as a bug. Its a worst case scenario or weapon of last resort not something for primary carry. And sure sometimes you don't have a choice and need to carry small and deeply concealed, its why I bought one, but most of the time you probably don't but still do because its easy. I don't throw on a gun to go to a store, I'm already wearing my G26. I put it on with my clothes in the morning and take it off when I go to bed.

up1911fan
02-13-2012, 14:15
I use my LCP as a summertime BUG in the pocket. Still carry a G26 IWB all summer.

MJB
02-13-2012, 17:54
You may want to look at an LC9. I don't own one but they are pretty small.

Golddog
02-13-2012, 18:35
What are the comparative trigger characteristics - pull weight, smoothness, reset, anything else about the respective triggers of the 26 and LCP? (I've owned a 26 and liked the trigger a lot.)