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Louisville Glocker
02-12-2011, 11:31
Hey,
Just got back from the gun range trying out my new Saiga 12. First impressions: what a beast!

Very powerful. I only used the five shell mag, and used 1 oz slugs, so didn't get the full effect of the high capacity mags or more powerful shells, but man, really wouldn't want to get hit by that sucker.

I did use a front vertical grip. The recoil wasn't as bad as I had expected, but I did notice a little strain in my front wrist. I guess I'm not used to holding a grip like that.

Anyway. It was fun. I'm looking forward to doing the conversion next week or so. Just wanted to try it out closer to its stock form..

Cheers.

Flipaldo
02-12-2011, 11:46
I am looking to pick one of these up in the near future. I'm still looking at Mossbergs as well though.

mac66
02-12-2011, 12:57
:wavey:

Shooting slugs rapid fire in a Saiga 12 is like operating a jack hammer. They are a bunch of fun.

DRAGON1970
02-12-2011, 13:31
Hey,
Just got back from the gun range trying out my new Saiga 12. First impressions: what a beast!

Very powerful. I only used the five shell mag, and used 1 oz slugs, so didn't get the full effect of the high capacity mags or more powerful shells, but man, really wouldn't want to get hit by that sucker.

I did use a front vertical grip. The recoil wasn't as bad as I had expected, but I did notice a little strain in my front wrist. I guess I'm not used to holding a grip like that.

Anyway. It was fun. I'm looking forward to doing the conversion next week or so. Just wanted to try it out closer to its stock form..

Cheers.

What "conversion" are you referring to??

Raleigh Glocker
02-12-2011, 14:39
What "conversion" are you referring to??

Easy, buddy. It has a whole different meaning in the Saiga world from what you're thinking.

Saigas are imported in a sporterized version. As you can read in other Saiga threads on this forum, imported firearms are subject to regulations regarding the use of certain aftermarket parts. In order to have the freedom to use whatever magazine, hand guard, stock, etc., that you want, you have to convert it from an imported weapon to one of significant US-made parts. Most people convert it from "not evil" to "evil" in the process.

Here's a step-by-step guide for the Saiga:
http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45781&start=0

DD26
02-12-2011, 14:40
What "conversion" are you referring to??

Saigas are imported into the US in a "sporter" configuration; no pistol grip and the FCG is to the rear. A conversion restores it to it's true AK configuration.


Factory Saiga-12:


http://tacticalgunsandgear.com/firearm_sales/images/RAA%20Saiga.jpg




...and here's my S12 after I did the conversion:


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/D23NY/701730937_photobucket_16625_.jpg


Notice how the trigger is moved up to where it's supposed to be on an AK.

DD26
02-12-2011, 14:41
Someone beat me to it.:supergrin:

ctdiesel99
02-12-2011, 15:19
Louisville glocker where did you pick up your Saiga and how much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking?

rjrivero
02-12-2011, 15:32
Since we're showing our conversions, here's mine!

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=273

mac66
02-12-2011, 16:57
Since we're showing our conversions, here's mine!


Ah, what the heck, here's mine as well. I've had mine since 2001, long before there was anything but 5 round mags available. That photo is circa 2005 :supergrin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/mac66/NewImage.bmp

Louisville Glocker
02-12-2011, 20:57
Louisville glocker where did you pick up your Saiga and how much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking?

I got mine from K-var (k-var.com). I just checked, and their prices are up since I ordered a couple weeks ago. I got the base model + handguard + pic. quad rail, and it was $664 + shipping (about $30). My local FFL fee is $20 (reasonable). The same identical setup is priced at $714 at their site now.

I guess it is supply and demand.

Louisville Glocker
02-12-2011, 21:03
:wavey:

Shooting slugs rapid fire in a Saiga 12 is like operating a jack hammer. They are a bunch of fun.

Yeah. A bit more bang than my 9mm Glock. (understatement)

Quite a feeling of power. I like the jack hammer analogy. (But I liked it more than my time with a jack hammer quite honestly). Looking forward to the larger mags.

Any suggestions on ammo choices?

DRAGON1970
02-13-2011, 19:12
Easy, buddy. It has a whole different meaning in the Saiga world from what you're thinking.

Saigas are imported in a sporterized version. As you can read in other Saiga threads on this forum, imported firearms are subject to regulations regarding the use of certain aftermarket parts. In order to have the freedom to use whatever magazine, hand guard, stock, etc., that you want, you have to convert it from an imported weapon to one of significant US-made parts. Most people convert it from "not evil" to "evil" in the process.

Here's a step-by-step guide for the Saiga:
http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=45781&start=0

I was not thinking anything negative. I have been looking at them locally and wanted to know what the conversion was. I shoot 3-gun currently with an 1100 and 930 SPX.

DRAGON1970
02-13-2011, 19:14
Saigas are imported into the US in a "sporter" configuration; no pistol grip and the FCG is to the rear. A conversion restores it to it's true AK configuration.


Factory Saiga-12:


http://tacticalgunsandgear.com/firearm_sales/images/RAA%20Saiga.jpg




...and here's my S12 after I did the conversion:


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/D23NY/701730937_photobucket_16625_.jpg


Notice how the trigger is moved up to where it's supposed to be on an AK.

Very cool. Thanks for the info.

ctfireman
02-13-2011, 19:17
Nice saiga's guys, always been intrigued by them.

Glocker08
02-14-2011, 10:24
Cool, an S-12 thread.

Here's mine. I kept it pretty basic.

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu177/pixiepix09_photos/S-12003.jpg?t=1297703925

docwade
02-19-2011, 20:57
Here's mine. Took a lot of tuning with the magwell and automatic last round bolt hold open, but now it's one helll of a toy!

http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab185/docwade25/3ee6e485.jpg