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Big Bird
02-24-2011, 19:37
I was reviewing some old notes and thought we might benefit from a thread on slings for tactical shotguns. If you are against them or for them that's fine. But rather than bring that up--tell us the advantages/disadvantages...

Here's how I come down on the issue. If you put a sling on a tactical shotgun it should be one that is actually used as opposed to the sling that just provides a carry option. People will be happy to point out the main disadvantage to a sling is it will get caught on things. While this is true its mainly for shotguns with loose dangling slings. Its not true for Shotguns used with one and thee point slings.

So my favorite sling is the Spector Gear CQB three point sling with the emergency release buckle for my Benelli M2.

The advantages of a three point (and one point) sling are: Highly unlikely its going to get caught up on anything. Provides for immediate employment of the weapon. Allows the hands to be used with no degradation of deploying the weapon. And probably a big one in my mind is there is absolutely no issue with weapon retention in a close fight with a 1 or 3 pt sling...

A 3 pt sling is VERY versatile allowing several modes of carrying the weapon in front or on the back with a quick transition from any mode of carry.

The slings I prefer the least are the two point slings especially with the shell bandoliers. Try shooting and pumping a shotgun with a heavy sling full of shells rocking back and forth...whew!

Here's a video of how to use a 3 pt sling...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGbYG2_u4I

CAcop
02-24-2011, 19:39
I like my blue Force Gear 2 point. You are right they must be used or they snag.

byf43
02-25-2011, 07:22
I was watching "The Best Defense" this past Wednesday, and they featured an adjustable 2 point / 1 point sling that really caught my eye.
(Granted, this sling was used on an AR, but, they said that it would work just as well on an HD shotgun!)

I've never considered a sling on my HD 870, but, I suppose that wouldn't be so terrible to have.

And I agree completely about the PITA that a 'bandoleer sling' is. That's a lot of weight swinging around, under the shotgun.

nastytrigger
02-25-2011, 15:41
Here is my favorite sling company on a Remmy 870: Urban ERT 3-Point IMPD Sling (http://www.youtube.com/user/URBANERTTACTICAL#p/u/16/045JInUbY9s)

Bullman
02-25-2011, 23:24
I have a Summit Tactical Sling from Rocky Mountain Tactical that I use as a 2 point quick adjustable, it is good stuff.

I was reading an article today written by JD McGuire, you all may know him as AIPPI here on GT, he made some good sense as far as a strictly home defense gun not needing a sling at all.

David Armstrong
02-26-2011, 13:38
For most folks if you are going to use a sling the basic 2-point sling works just fine. It allows you to secure the gun in a number of ways if you need to release it and if it gets in the way a simple grab with the pinky finger gets it out of the way. KISS should be the default, IMO, and utilized unless there is some good reason to complicate things.

8th SPS USAF
02-26-2011, 16:30
I use Wilderness single point. Works with shotguns and AR's

MacG22
02-26-2011, 23:02
A friend at the range the other week had one of the 2-3 adjustable slings from magpul. I thought it was actually pretty usable. I would want to play with it a bit more, but it seemed like a good product.

WJR
02-27-2011, 21:36
For most folks if you are going to use a sling the basic 2-point sling works just fine. It allows you to secure the gun in a number of ways if you need to release it and if it gets in the way a simple grab with the pinky finger gets it out of the way. KISS should be the default, IMO, and utilized unless there is some good reason to complicate things.

I agree with this. I have a two point sling from Gear Sector on my 590A1 and love it.

WJR

JCROWNII
03-23-2011, 16:06
I am an advocate for 3-point sling's as I use one on my AR. Every individual has there likes and dislikes about slings when they are used in conjunction with a weapon system, but as said by the OP, they must be utilized. A sling that is not being used is a sling that CAN be used against you; an adversary can use the sling to try and yank the shotgun out of your hands, it can be used to strangle you if a struggle where to take place, and it can also snag on door knobs and other objects as well.

Although I am a proponent of the 3-point sling, on a shotgun I recommend the use of a 2-point sling system. I currently have a VTAC 2-point sling that is attached to the shotgun via QD sling swivels. I recommend this setup to any one who uses their shotgun for HD, as the QD sling swivels allow for easy removal of the sling when it is being utilized in a HD role; if the situation where to arise that you need to go outside of your home then the sling can be attached using the QD system for quick attachment.

Moreover, the use of a 3-point sling allows for too much sling material to be in the way because there is a sling strap running across the side of the shotgun where attached there on. I believe this hinders your ability to access your extra shot shells on the side saddle (this only applys to right hand shooters and also if you are using a side saddle on your weapon system); the 3-point sling does not have any more advantages than a 2-point sling when being used on a shotgun and I believe the excess material is not needed to achieve the slings intended use.

TSAX
03-23-2011, 17:50
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Big Bird
03-24-2011, 08:18
I am an advocate for 3-point sling's as I use one on my AR. Every individual has there likes and dislikes about slings when they are used in conjunction with a weapon system, but as said by the OP, they must be utilized. A sling that is not being used is a sling that CAN be used against you; an adversary can use the sling to try and yank the shotgun out of your hands, it can be used to strangle you if a struggle where to take place, and it can also snag on door knobs and other objects as well.

Although I am a proponent of the 3-point sling, on a shotgun I recommend the use of a 2-point sling system. I currently have a VTAC 2-point sling that is attached to the shotgun via QD sling swivels. I recommend this setup to any one who uses their shotgun for HD, as the QD sling swivels allow for easy removal of the sling when it is being utilized in a HD role; if the situation where to arise that you need to go outside of your home then the sling can be attached using the QD system for quick attachment.

Moreover, the use of a 3-point sling allows for too much sling material to be in the way because there is a sling strap running across the side of the shotgun where attached there on. I believe this hinders your ability to access your extra shot shells on the side saddle (this only applys to right hand shooters and also if you are using a side saddle on your weapon system); the 3-point sling does not have any more advantages than a 2-point sling when being used on a shotgun and I believe the excess material is not needed to achieve the slings intended use.

Interesting. I recently put a Specter Gear 3pt sling on my 870 with a side saddle and the sling doesn't interfere with the side saddle in the least. On my Benelli I don't have a side saddle and never had that problem. The Benelli has a Mesa tactical buttstock shell carrier that's mounted on the port side of the gun to the ambi-sling attachment point. The only thing I don't like about the 3pt sling on the 870 with the sidesaddle is the shells hit me right at the bottom of the sternum. So its a little unconfortable--but that would happen regardless of the tactical sling used.

BailRecoveryAgent
03-24-2011, 09:37
Would this Remington sling be a decent choice for my 870? I'm just a gravel pit range commando, so I don't think I need anything to complicated or expensive.
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/remington-slings/1846

David Armstrong
03-24-2011, 12:38
Looks OK to me, but IMO you'll be served just as well by getting a military web sling for less than half the price.

Big Bird
03-24-2011, 13:05
I have found the sporting slings like that Remington to be too short to work on a tactical longarm. About all they are good for is shoulder carry.

bsg1
05-16-2013, 01:52
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Doug S
05-16-2013, 17:25
I bought one of the bandolier slings (10rd) before I knew any better. I'll still use it, only I'll keep it empty. Nice sling otherwise. I want a sling in case I have to shoulder the gun for some reason, or leave the house to go out onto the property.

deputy tom
05-16-2013, 17:27
Looks OK to me, but IMO you'll be served just as well by getting a military web sling for less than half the price.

This is what I've been using for decades. tom.:cool:

Aceman
05-16-2013, 20:49
My sling dangles like my balls; low and loose!

I am fine with the standard sling. I habitually arm wrap from rifle shooting while standing. So it doesn't really swing. And in the house, there is nothing to catch on anyway. I drill in my house - never ever been an issue.

Honestly, my HD gun is my SHTF SG as well, so I always keep in mind the potential need to carry for a distance.

sarge1967
05-16-2013, 21:40
I use a Magpul MS3 on my 870. The way I have in configured I can use it single point or two point.

SouthpawG26
05-18-2013, 06:29
I use a Magpul MS3 on my 870. The way I have in configured I can use it single point or two point.

Same here. You do need a swivel right behind the receiver for a single point setup of course.

On a heavy gun such as the 870, I added a Matin Airpad.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/cervelop2k/3a0d711a3c6681b8dbbfeb4148a43dd9_zpsc438c3d5.jpg

sarge1967
05-18-2013, 06:32
Same here. You do need a swivel right behind the receiver for a single point setup of course.

On a heavy gun such as the 870, I added a Matin Airpad.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/cervelop2k/3a0d711a3c6681b8dbbfeb4148a43dd9_zpsc438c3d5.jpg

I have the Magpul furniture on mine with the single point adapter behind the receiver and Magpul's forward sling adapter.

triggerjerk
05-19-2013, 17:29
+1 to Specter Gear 3pt slings.
Yes, they can get in the way of chest mounted gear but that is an individual setup
choice I guess.

collim1
05-19-2013, 20:26
I have a 1pt on my duty shotgun because a normal two point hangs up on the Surefire foreend.

Only problem is a 18" shotgun is really too long for a 1pt, I banged the muzzle on the asphalt cuffing a robbery suspect last week.

A 2pt that I could have slung over my shoulder across my back would have been fine.

jb1911
05-21-2013, 09:01
I've got a Magpul sling adapter on my 870 and use a Magpul M3 as a single point. The magazine cap has one of those studs sticking out with a hole in it. What do I need to get to attach my sling to is as a two point sling?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8256/8675030891_3980339628_b.jpg

retired guard
05-25-2013, 14:11
I had considered a bandolier sling. I shall profit from your experience. Thanks.

CDR_Glock
05-26-2013, 11:09
I wanted to be as consistent from one long gun to another. My AR-15 carbine has a Blue Force Vickers sling so I acquired one for my Benelli M2, also. It's easy to adjust on the fly.

AR15 guy
02-22-2015, 09:26
I've got a Magpul sling adapter on my 870 and use a Magpul M3 as a single point. The magazine cap has one of those studs sticking out with a hole in it. What do I need to get to attach my sling to is as a two point sling?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8256/8675030891_3980339628_b.jpg

How do you like that setup? I have a mossberg 500 setup the same way and I am considering buying the ms3 sling with the paraclips to run single point.

faawrenchbndr
02-22-2015, 09:56
I use a Magpul MS3 on my 870. The way I have in configured I can use it single point or two point.

This......

Bren
02-22-2015, 10:20
Depends on what you're using the shotgun for. I like a sling on a hunting shotgun, so I can sling it when packing a turkey or climbing a fence. But for home defense? No. I'm not on a roving patrol with my shotgun, I don't have to handcuff bad guys, etc. - I can hold it when it's needed.

larry_minn
02-25-2015, 22:57
I have a 1pt on my duty shotgun because a normal two point hangs up on the Surefire foreend.

Only problem is a 18" shotgun is really too long for a 1pt, I banged the muzzle on the asphalt cuffing a robbery suspect last week.

A 2pt that I could have slung over my shoulder across my back would have been fine.

A local Officer picked up a burst barrel form gunsmith. He then cut it to @ 14" for dept use. (forget if he said if any paperwork had to be done) It was a 26" with damage to end and smith thought it best not to cut in 19" area as too close to damage. :)

larry_minn
02-25-2015, 23:02
opps.

11B101ABN
03-02-2015, 08:34
Depends on what you're using the shotgun for. I like a sling on a hunting shotgun, so I can sling it when packing a turkey or climbing a fence. But for home defense? No. I'm not on a roving patrol with my shotgun, I don't have to handcuff bad guys, etc. - I can hold it when it's needed.

ANY long gun that you plan on using for HD should have a sling. There is no good reason to not have one.

PEC-Memphis
03-02-2015, 21:32
ANY long gun that you plan on using for HD should have a sling. There is no good reason to not have one.

If you don't have a pistol with you, why would you need a sling?

It is not like a rifle where a sling is used for support for longer range. If around the house, the absence of a sling is a benefit (unless you have a pistol)

A good reason not to have one is they snag on stuff and can interfere with operation on a pump - but an auto as a better choice is another discussion.

Depends on what you're using the shotgun for. I like a sling on a hunting shotgun, so I can sling it when packing a turkey or climbing a fence. But for home defense? No. I'm not on a roving patrol with my shotgun, I don't have to handcuff bad guys, etc. - I can hold it when it's needed.

I agree - about HD - I don't know about turkey hunting.

LongRifle75
03-03-2015, 08:03
I use a Viking Tactical on my Benelli M2. Works great and I can tighten it or loosen it on the fly without taking it off.

Chowser
03-04-2015, 09:14
We used to have three point slings on our Benellis but we removed them all when we got ARs. The guns were mounted side by side and the slings would get tangled up (most cops are messy) so it was decided to just keep the slings (one point) on the rifles since we are more apt to pull the rifle over the shotgun.

Now once I did have to climb a wooden wall with a slung shotgun and I was glad to have the sling.

gooffeyguy
03-04-2015, 09:39
I use Condor Speedy slings on both my rifles and shotguns. They are 2 point and easily adjustable with the pull tab, and only cost about $25. They come with loop/strap ends with quick connects. I've installed snap clips and a D-ring on the ones I use on the rifles so I can easily switch from 2 point to 1 point if preferred.

The shotgun I keep as a 2 point, I've found it to be too long and heavy for 1 point use. Just my opinion though.

Inebriated
03-04-2015, 12:18
MS1 for me.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/15881639874_e017233c63_n.jpg (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/15881639874_2d9efdf20c_o.jpg)

Bren
03-04-2015, 14:53
ANY long gun that you plan on using for HD should have a sling. There is no good reason to not have one.

Sure there is - slings catch on things; especially in a house. Not having a sling, on the other hand, is no disadvtange at all, in my home.

If you are imagining strapping on a handgun and a 3-point shotgun sling and transitioning when you run out of ammo...that's not the real world you are thinking of.

Big Bird
03-04-2015, 16:27
The #1 reason for having a sling on a HD shotgun is retention. Nobody will take it away from you or have much of a chance of using it against you with a sling--provided, of course, that you actually use the sling. Of course it frees your hands for other tasks such as dialing a phone, opening a door, etc etc.

The type of sling is really not that critical so much as the fact that you use it. I still like the three point sling because it can be used like a 2 point or 3 point depending on how you like to use it. Lots of versatility. A single point sling isn't my personal choice for many reasons but it beats nothing.

Bren
03-04-2015, 16:41
The #1 reason for having a sling on a HD shotgun is retention. Nobody will take it away from you or have much of a chance of using it against you with a sling--provided, of course, that you actually use the sling. Of course it frees your hands for other tasks such as dialing a phone, opening a door, etc etc.

The type of sling is really not that critical so much as the fact that you use it. I still like the three point sling because it can be used like a 2 point or 3 point depending on how you like to use it. Lots of versatility. A single point sling isn't my personal choice for many reasons but it beats nothing.

So you are actually talking about wearing a 3-point type sling, while using the shotgun? Again, that doesn't sound much like the real world. Home defense guns are guns you grab and use very quickly. There isn't a real world scenario where you gear up for burglars. A hanging sling is as likely to be used to take the gun away from you as to prevent it.

Big Bird
03-04-2015, 17:40
So you are actually talking about wearing a 3-point type sling, while using the shotgun? Again, that doesn't sound much like the real world. Home defense guns are guns you grab and use very quickly. There isn't a real world scenario where you gear up for burglars. A hanging sling is as likely to be used to take the gun away from you as to prevent it.

It takes me about 2 seconds to sling a gun. Obviously if I needed it right now I wouldn't do that.

If I have the time the sling goes over my head. We aren't talking about putting on body armor or even talking the time to put on your pants.

11B101ABN
03-05-2015, 04:36
Sure there is - slings catch on things; especially in a house. Not having a sling, on the other hand, is no disadvtange at all, in my home.

If you are imagining strapping on a handgun and a 3-point shotgun sling and transitioning when you run out of ammo...that's not the real world you are thinking of.

Properly mounted slings wont catch on much. I will continue to disagree w/ you on the sling issue especially for room clearing.

Weapon retention is critical and a sling will aid in that. It is useful for manipulating of items that require two hands. and can be used to stabilize the weapon.

I never advocate the use of a 3 point, as I find that the excess material is pointless. I use a 2 point.