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JK-linux
03-06-2011, 16:48
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JTLIII
03-06-2011, 16:49
do it, M1A!

NeverMore1701
03-06-2011, 17:33
Wouldn't use it for HD, but it would take most game in NA, especially at 100 yards. Recoil on the fullsize isn't bad at all. Be aware that ammo is quite a bit more expensive, and they're not as easy to customize as an AR.

I'd personally get an 18-20" AR and set it up for precision. It could fill a very different role than your 16" carbine, but would still share mags, ammo, and manual of arms.

JK-linux
03-06-2011, 18:35
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wtf0ver
03-06-2011, 19:02
i cant decide between the two either and i dont have a rifle yet.

Reswob
03-06-2011, 19:19
You already have an AR15. You DON'T already have an M1A. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Although if you wanted another rifle that's more practical for you than the M1A, and much much less expensive to shoot, you could get a nice AK.

M1A Shooter
03-06-2011, 20:43
the m1a/m14 is my favorite rifle hands down. its a bit big and heavy but its accuracy and power ar comforting. i definately wouldnt use it for HD but it would be a neat toy to play with at 100 yards.

that said, with a 100 yard limit, i think the 308 will be overkill and id look at either another AR but a SPR 18-20" version, an AK, or even look into the 300 aac blackout. if you reload, the aac is a pretty neat round that gives you AK power but uses .223 brass and .308 bullets. maybe a 6.8spc or other larger caliber in the ar15 platform if you are looking to hunt.

WayaX
03-06-2011, 20:48
The price is pretty good. I bought mine a couple months ago used (I jumped on it because it was all USGI except for the receiver.) The newer ones are supposedly lesser quality, but to what extent you or I would know the difference, I have no clue.

JK-linux
03-06-2011, 21:04
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M1A Shooter
03-06-2011, 21:25
look up http://www.m14tfl.com for anything you could ever want to know about the m14/m1a

ArmoryDoc
03-06-2011, 23:01
The M1A is highly cool and a joy to shoot. I love mine. Get it !

sfguard
03-06-2011, 23:11
I am planning on getting a M1A in the near future. Maybe my next set of days off.:whistling:

mixflip
03-07-2011, 01:27
I just shot an M1A this weekend for the 1st time....my vote is for you to get the M1A absolutely.

I now want one no matter the expense of ammo. The fact that it can stop the engine of a vehicle better than my AR15 is just good old fashioned American cool. (not that I need to punch holes in engine blocks anytime soon? lol)

BobbyT
03-07-2011, 01:45
How bout an AR-10?

JBnTX
03-07-2011, 07:32
.... Honestly though, I just don't have access to long ranges with much frequency. The likely home of this rifle will be my gun safe and occasional 100yd range for most of the time....


If the truth was known, most M1A owners shoot their safe queens at 100 yds maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

The M1A is a fantastic rifle with a great deal of history behind it, even though
it was only in US military service for 10 years.

Definately get the M1A and shoot it as often as you can, even if it's only
at 100 yards.

MajorD
03-07-2011, 08:26
if you can get it as you say for way below current market value go for it. Most of my shooting is at my clubs 100 yard range but I have multiple 308's and 30-06's. You never know when the chane to use its extended range and power will come up either on the range or in the field

Gunnut 45/454
03-07-2011, 09:25
I would love to get an M1A but in 30-06 as it was made for! A 308 will take any game you want to shoot well past 100 yards!:supergrin: The only problem with the M1a is you can't hot rod it much cause you start breaking things! Op rod! Be careful of factory rounds-stick with Milsurp!:supergrin:

mgs
03-07-2011, 12:55
I have a M1A and it shoots great....don't shoot it much anymore. I'd go the AR in .308 to play with. I use to shoot my M1A as a Service Rifle but the AR took that job years ago, Mike.

JBnTX
03-07-2011, 13:15
I would love to get an M1A but in 30-06 as it was made for!

The only problem with the M1a is you can't hot rod it much cause you start breaking things!....


Do you have a source for these claims?

1. M1A in original 30.06?

Wasn't the M-14 (7.62) designed to replace the M1 Garand (30.06)?


2. Can't hot rod the M1A?

I've been trying to break my Springfield Armory M1A for over 2 years now.
I've dumped up to 5 20rd mags just as fast as I could pull the trigger.

Lot's of heat and smoke from oil burning off the barrel, but NO PARTS
BREAKAGE in almost 10,000rds.

Hedo1
03-07-2011, 13:56
I own both. I like both. In a shtf scenario I'd grab my M1A.

The .308 is a mid power round imo. Recoil is mild in an autoloader, especially one as heavy as the M1A. Accuracy of the M1a is well documented, although it will open up when the barrel gets too hot. As to game it will take up to deer, bear and elk with good shot placement. I have a low power scope on mine 2-7X variable and have no problem hitting the center rings of a B-27 out to 300Y, and my eyes are bad these days too. Winchester White Box ammo can be had for $10-12/box in bulk.

It is a little trick to play with the M1A without spending a lot of money. I have a Gen3 scope mount and a low power Nikon scope. I also put a synthetic stock on it which I like better in all weather conditions. Other then that I had a trigger job done to it by Bill Springfield which I highly recommend.

jrs93accord
03-07-2011, 15:10
Get the M1A.

Gunnut 45/454
03-07-2011, 16:29
JBnTX
Disreguard I was thinking M1 Gerand!

M1A Shooter
03-07-2011, 19:51
and the m14 is still in srvice today, just not as a primary battle rifle.

WayaX
03-07-2011, 21:33
Yeah. I've heard that lesser quality thing as well. Of course, it seems like they say that about every model of weapon that's been out for more than a few years. Could be true, though I'm a bit skeptical sometimes of these claims. Thanks for the tip.

There have been a few known issues with newer rifles, but overall the whole MIM thing seems to be pretty overblown. I was ready to buy a new rifle (really wanted the scout/squad) but I couldn't turn down the deal on the used one I found. My cousin has new one and he has never had any trouble with it.

glockinthused
03-08-2011, 19:37
M1A all the way. I love mine. Just wish I could shoot her a little more.

Bello
03-10-2011, 15:58
m1a i just picked up my socom 16 m1a love it got olive drab

SIGShooter
03-10-2011, 17:00
I have an opportunity to buy a brand new in box Springfield M1A Standard 22" for far less than market. I've not owned one before but have always liked what I've heard about the .308 caliber as far as dispatching larger game (if needed). Honestly though, I just don't have access to long ranges with much frequency. The likely home of this rifle will be my gun safe and occasional 100yd range for most of the time. Also, my eyesight is crap so I'm under no illusion that I'll be cracking out 500 yard shots at targets or game.
Anyhow, I'd like to get another rifle in addition to my Remington 870 Marine and BCM M4 16". So the question is... is an M1A a bit of a great answer to a non-existant problem? How practical would .308 be for home defense (over penetration)? How big of game would a .308 take out at 100 yards max? Is the recoil ridiculous (I'm guessing not). Would an additional AR-15 (already have tools, ammunition, etc) or maybe a Mini-30 (scope and ammo and it's pretty much done) be a better choice?
My other thought was a nice Marlin 45-70 Guide Gun for occasional game and truck gun. Obviously, that would be big overkill for home defense and probably impractical in any urban setting. I'd imagine it would kick about like a 12 gauge with 405gr cowboy loads - then again with 405gr at 1200, why not just use the 12 gauge?
Anyhow, any thoughts would be nice. This would sort of be a SHTF/woods/last ditch/feed the family rifle. My wife can handle the AR just fine, so this one really needs to fit only me.
Thoughts? AR/M1A/47-70?


To keep it short…

I bought a Scout Squad rifle. I did as much research as I could on it. One thing I failed to look at…Port Pressure.

I have an issue using a rifle where it is ammunition sensitive.

If you can overlook that and "settle" on an ammunition sensitive system, go for it.

I no longer have the Scout rifle and went with another AR.

Personally, I can defend the home, take game, destroy zombies…etc.


EDITED TO ADD: Thread I started

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1276870

Information link:

http://www.zediker.com/downloads/14_loading.pdf

WayaX
03-10-2011, 18:55
To keep it short…

I bought a Scout Squad rifle. I did as much research as I could on it. One thing I failed to look at…Port Pressure.


Stick with <180gr rounds and you'll be fine. And stay away from "magnum" loads that are designed for bolt guns.

SIGShooter
03-10-2011, 19:11
Stick with <180gr rounds and you'll be fine. And stay away from "magnum" loads that are designed for bolt guns.


You may have missed it…

I don't own the Scout Squad anymore. Mainly due to the fact it is ammunition sensitive.

But I hear what you're saying.

Line Rider
03-10-2011, 20:16
+1 M1A and a truck load of magazines.

JDurfee
03-11-2011, 15:54
I vote the M1A. Everybody and their uncle has an AR.... Why not deviate from the beaten path a little... I'm in the market for an M1A also...

JK-linux
03-11-2011, 17:09
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EL COLONEL
03-11-2011, 19:10
Look at the new LMT 308 :dunno:

mstennes
03-13-2011, 10:06
and the m14 is still in srvice today, just not as a primary battle rifle.

More of a fluke though that, that happened. It was phased out, some supplies of them remained. If the military would have not put all their eggs in one basket (M16/M4) and developed and funded better their 308 AR based programs, the M14 wouldnt be here though. It took Astan for them to "speed" up a longer range harder hitting, accurate round 308 based rifle need.

mstennes
03-13-2011, 10:08
How bout an AR-10?

A 308 based AR rifle will out shoot a M1A/M14 all day long, with less maintainace, and less maintianance to keep that accuracy.

mstennes
03-13-2011, 10:14
Do you have a source for these claims?

1. M1A in original 30.06?

Wasn't the M-14 (7.62) designed to replace the M1 Garand (30.06)?


2. Can't hot rod the M1A?

I've been trying to break my Springfield Armory M1A for over 2 years now.
I've dumped up to 5 20rd mags just as fast as I could pull the trigger.

Lot's of heat and smoke from oil burning off the barrel, but NO PARTS
BREAKAGE in almost 10,000rds.

A M14/M1A, is a M1 Garand modified to accept a detachable magazine, and rechambered to use the "new" US Army/NATO 7.62x51 round. A accurrized M1A/M14, needs twice the armoury level maintainance to keep that accurracy as a AR/M series based rifle. Plus you can only clean a M1A/M14 from the muzzle end, nicked crowns are a common problem here.

12131
03-13-2011, 10:19
My next rifle will be the M1A.