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Bob469
03-24-2011, 13:43
I've been looking and looking but I cant even find a picture of a 1911 with a flat guide rod like this one...

Its on a Colt MK IV Series 80 i've recently picked up... Trying to figure out what exactly I wanna add/change...

Im sure one of our wonderful experts can help me...


http://i54.tinypic.com/9k59nt.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/66l1di.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/21n49it.jpg

Nickpisp
03-24-2011, 14:00
The first thing I'd add/change is that guide rod. I have an identical Colt to that and it has the GI setup.

Bob469
03-24-2011, 14:21
This one isnt stock is it ?

Nickpisp
03-24-2011, 14:23
This one isnt stock is it ?


Nope, should be a short GI one. Does the gun still have the collett bushing?

aglocker1911
03-24-2011, 15:13
Series 80, won't have a collet bushing. Trigger doesn't look right at all and seems to have a lot of marks on it, plus those are some funky rear sights. I'd want to know who had their hands in it before i bought it.

Nickpisp
03-24-2011, 15:16
Series 80, won't have a collet bushing. Trigger doesn't look right at all and seems to have a lot of marks on it, plus those are some funky rear sights. I'd want to know who had their hands in it before i bought it.


Series 80's had collett bushings untill 1988.

Bob469
03-24-2011, 22:20
Sights are some kinda adjustable... Prolly gonna be one of the first things changed...

Im gonna pick it up in the next week or two so i havent taken it down yet to know what bushing it has... The trigger and slide stop have a real light flame etching on them... both look like it can be polished out but they'll prolly just get replaced...

Plan is to pretty much rebuild it piece by piece figuring it out as i go...

Dr. Strangelove
03-25-2011, 05:51
I'm no 1911 expert but I'm pretty handy with Google.

Going to go out on a limb and call it an Accu Systems Dual Action Buffer System guide rod. It looks like it was first designed by an Englishman named Peter Sarony, and was later picked up and distributed by by Accu Systems. (Though I can't find anything to confirm that)

It looks like it was a setup that was made famous by a guy named Phil Engeldrum who was a fan of the setup. He was a gun writer in the 80's and 90s for a kind of off-the-wall publication called Pistolero.

Here is a link to a PDF with some more info:
http://www.1911timewarp.com/Pics/clt0792b.pdf

Phew, you learn something new every day.

Nickpisp
03-25-2011, 07:15
Sights are some kinda adjustable... Prolly gonna be one of the first things changed...

Im gonna pick it up in the next week or two so i havent taken it down yet to know what bushing it has... The trigger and slide stop have a real light flame etching on them... both look like it can be polished out but they'll prolly just get replaced...

Plan is to pretty much rebuild it piece by piece figuring it out as i go...



If you haven't had one with a collett bushing before, you'll need to pull the slide back a couple of inches before you'll be able to turn the bushing. Don't try to force it, the fingers can break on you.

bigmitty
03-25-2011, 10:52
Who knew I had an Accu-Systems Comp and Buffer all this time.They were on a Randall I had a couple of years ago.Replaced both before I shot the pistol,so I don't know if they actually work.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k8/bigmitty/P3241096.jpg

Bob469
03-27-2011, 12:08
Interesting... Thanks for all the help... I knew someone could figure it out since i couldnt haha...

Im thinking I will still replace it but will see how I like it first...