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RMTactical
03-26-2011, 16:44
I am really kind of torn right now. I want a new 1911 for CCW use, but I cannot decide between an EMP, Kimber Pro CDP II, or a Colt Commander in SS.

I'm probably leaning towards the EMP, but I find the Kimber Pro CDP II's to be very sexy guns and I think it would CCW fairly well also.

My biggest hangup on the Kimber is something that could also be considered a positive, the aluminum frame. Any idea how these are holding up with prolonged use?

I can't happen to find a Colt Commander in SS anywhere, so that is a problem too, but I haven't really looked too hard yet...

I am not limiting my choice to these three, so I am open to suggestions, however, I want to stay at 4.25" or less barrel length. Would like to keep it at $1000 or so. I could stretch a little more (and I realize I have to for a Kimber or EMP). I could go with a 9mm or a .45.

Grappler112
03-26-2011, 16:47
so I guess this is out?
http://beautiful-views.com/amt-longslide.html

I was going to suggest one like Arnold is holding, you know with the laser sight

Spats McGee
03-26-2011, 17:18
SA Loaded Champion Lightweight? (Oh, wait. That's the one I want.)

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=8

G27RR
03-26-2011, 17:26
If you want a steel frame, consider the STI Ranger II with its 4.15" barrel.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Ranger%20II/STIRangerII45ACP-1.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Ranger%20II/STIRangerII45ACP7.jpg

If you want a 3", I highly recommend the STI Shadow or Escort. They are aluminum framed. Not 100% sure on long term with the aluminum, but I do have 2,000+ rounds through the Shadow with no sign of issues.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Shadow%202krnds/STIShadoww2Krnds800600.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Escort/IMG_1250.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/STI%20Escort/IMG_1254.jpg

Vanman2004b
03-26-2011, 18:13
It is a little bit on the "or so" side of $1000, but the DW CCO would be an excellent choice.

mrsurfboard
03-26-2011, 18:45
You're going to want an aluminum frame if you are planning to CCW with it. A steel frame 1911 is going to be 40+ ounces loaded. That's a lot of weight. Did you look at the Colt Defender? I think that is under $1000 and looks easy to conceal.

awpk03s
03-26-2011, 18:45
I can highly recommend the S&W Pro Series 3"

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1315484

stumpjumper
03-26-2011, 18:47
I just traded for a Colt New agent with a Crimson Trace laser- After a few more rounds , it's my new carry gun.

knedrgr
03-26-2011, 18:52
SA EMP 9mm also has an aluminum frame. Unless you're planning on some crazy round count thru the gun, then it shouldn't be much of an issue.

knedrgr
03-26-2011, 18:54
DW Guardian 9mm is a true commander w/ an alloy frame. Jetguns has a great deal on them.

http://www.jetguns.com/wesson-c-194_330.html

Hokie1911
03-26-2011, 19:14
STI Ranger 2. $1k. Can be had in .45 or 9mm. If you are worried about the weight, trade your skirt in for some pants, mix in a steak and/or some whey protein shakes and hit the gym. That and a good belt - holster setup is a must. :supergrin:

RMTactical
03-26-2011, 19:31
SA EMP 9mm also has an aluminum frame. Unless you're planning on some crazy round count thru the gun, then it shouldn't be much of an issue.

Not as worried about an aluminum frame in 9mm. Should I be?

rsxr22
03-26-2011, 19:39
I dont think you should be. I love my EMP and I also love STI's entire line of guns. You will be well served by either of them. DW's are also extremely good guns as well. Im not so much a fan of Kimber for a few reasons, but the biggest being their lack of CS which is well documented on the forums.

heitzoflearning
03-26-2011, 20:14
I like my Kimber Ultra Aegis. I wouldn't worry about the aluminum,you probably won't shoot enough rounds through it to wear it out.

TKR Reptiles
03-26-2011, 20:22
I love my CDP Pro II...

HAIL CAESAR
03-26-2011, 20:29
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/CCOCTLEFT-1.jpg

:whistling::whistling:

You shouldn't worry about alloy unless you shoot ammo by the case.

HAIL CAESAR
03-26-2011, 20:31
Kimber Aegis Ultra in 9mm or the Colt Defender in 9mm or 45 are great little guns.

Wade-19
03-26-2011, 20:35
I like the STI Guardian on paper, but I have not shot one.

k45
03-26-2011, 20:35
For concealed use, there is not much advantage of a Commander sized gun. The grip is the part that is hardest to conceal. (Not impossible, I carry a full size 1911, just harder.) A Commander has a full size 1911 frame, just a shorter barrel but the barrel isn't the hard part to conceal in an IWB holster.

I just got a Springfield 40SW EMP and I love it! I will probably become my EDC. Really nice. My wife got a 9mm EMP :)

I do have an old ('97) Kimber Compact (Alloy) that has many thousand target rounds through it. Good gun. The Kimber Compact is an officer size frame with a 4" barrel. Good size for concealed carry, same size grip as the EMP.

Yes, Kimber makes sexy looking guns, but a lot of us are unhappy with the problems and with Kimber CS. I have three Kimbers and the last one will be the last Kimber I buy.

As someone else recommended, the Dan Wesson CCO is a great sized carry gun.

Of the three you asked about, I would say go with the EMP. Or a Dan Wesson CCO. Springfield and DW offer lifetime warranties. Kimber is only one year and they generally don't want to work on problems until you have 500 rounds through it. My last Kimber had enough problems that it was out of warranty before I had 500 rounds through it.

Ken

Hokie1911
03-26-2011, 20:38
I like the STI Guardian on paper, but I have not shot one.

That's another great option at $1k.

http://www.brazoscustom.com/Images/sti_guns/Guardian.jpg

drc767
03-26-2011, 20:48
Wilson Lightweight Professional Bobtail in .38 Super......Oops..I missed the 1k price point in the OP. This one is just a tad more pricey. :)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/EliteProfessional018.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/EliteProfessional012.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/EliteProfessional014.jpg

Hokie1911
03-26-2011, 20:52
Wilson Lightweight Professional Bobtail in .38 Super

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg290/drc767/EliteProfessional018.jpg



Dave, if you have those at the OP's pricepoint of $1k, I'll call you immediately with my Visa number......and take a couple of them. :supergrin:

Quack
03-26-2011, 20:53
For concealed use, there is not much advantage of a Commander sized gun. The grip is the part that is hardest to conceal. (Not impossible, I carry a full size 1911, just harder.) A Commander has a full size 1911 frame, just a shorter barrel but the barrel isn't the hard part to conceal in an IWB holster.

I just got a Springfield 40SW EMP and I love it! I will probably become my EDC. Really nice. My wife got a 9mm EMP :)

I do have an old ('97) Kimber Compact (Alloy) that has many thousand target rounds through it. Good gun. The Kimber Compact is an officer size frame with a 4" barrel. Good size for concealed carry, same size grip as the EMP.

Yes, Kimber makes sexy looking guns, but a lot of us are unhappy with the problems and with Kimber CS. I have three Kimbers and the last one will be the last Kimber I buy.

As someone else recommended, the Dan Wesson CCO is a great sized carry gun.

Of the three you asked about, I would say go with the EMP. Or a Dan Wesson CCO. Springfield and DW offer lifetime warranties. Kimber is only one year and they generally don't want to work on problems until you have 500 rounds through it. My last Kimber had enough problems that it was out of warranty before I had 500 rounds through it.

Ken

Dan Wesson's are 5 years, Smith & Wesson are lifetime.

Vanman2004b
03-26-2011, 21:04
If you can pay for enough ammo to wear out an Aluminum frame the cost of the gun will not be an issue.

knedrgr
03-26-2011, 21:24
I maybe new in the 1911 platform, but I don't think I've seen/read a case of someone wearing out an alloy 1911 frame.

RMTactical
03-26-2011, 21:44
If you can pay for enough ammo to wear out an Aluminum frame the cost of the gun will not be an issue.

What about the difference in recoil?

G27RR
03-26-2011, 22:04
What about the difference in recoil?

There is obviously some difference between steel and aluminum due to the lighter weight, but I don't think it's all that big a deal. It really depends upon the person though, some being more recoil sensitive than others.

I've gone through a 250 round box in a single session with my Shadow, and while it is a little more tiring to control it than a full size steel 1911, it didn't leave me with a sore hand or anything. The RecoilMaster helps, in my opinion, at least compared to the same size Colt Defender I used to carry.

R0CKETMAN
03-27-2011, 04:55
. If you are worried about the weight, trade your skirt in for some pants, mix in a steak and/or some whey protein shakes and hit the gym.

:laughabove::rofl: :drink: :courtsie: :kilt: :nsb:

RM, geeesh... just buy something already....add $2-400 and get a used Baer Comanche of some sort.

Bai Qui
03-27-2011, 11:49
I carry an STI Escort. Love the gun, have ~1000 rounds through it and the only malfunction I had was 1 FTF with Speer Gold Dot SB ammo. No malfunctions with FMJ ammo, Hornady CD or Winchester PDX-1. I don't have any worries about the aluminum frame.

Lefty Shotlow
03-27-2011, 20:08
I carry my Kimber Pro Carry II in 9mm a lot. Lightweight, easy to carry, very accurate, fairly inexpensive. A couple of thousand rounds without a failure. I'm happy.

glock2740
03-27-2011, 21:03
Currently, the best CC 1911 I've ever owned/shot/CC'd, is the Wilson Ultralight Carry Compact. Absolutely perfect. :thumbsup:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewUltralightCarryCompact2002.jpg



http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewUltralightCarryCompact2004.jpg



http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewUltralightCarryCompact2006.jpg