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Foxtrotx1
03-30-2011, 00:31
Looked at a Colt SS full size rail gun today. I'd be lying if I said the fitting looked good.

I compared it to the RO and loaded, made them look like a TGO :shocked:

What is up with colt?

DLL9mm
03-30-2011, 02:05
Did the gun seem "loose". All the newer Colts I have been looking at have been really loose. Including my new Commander I bought.

Foxtrotx1
03-30-2011, 03:39
Did the gun seem "loose". All the newer Colts I have been looking at have been really loose. Including my new Commander I bought.

Loose begins to describe it. The rear of the frame rails extruded an 1/8th of an inch past the slide.

bac1023
03-30-2011, 05:24
Colts always have a loose fit.

faawrenchbndr
03-30-2011, 05:35
Loose begins to describe it. The rear of the frame rails extruded an 1/8th of an inch past the slide.

A loose slide has very little to do with accuracy. Frame rails extending beyond
the slide is just an example of poor workmanship.

3rdgen40
03-30-2011, 05:37
The rear of the frame rails extruded an 1/8th of an inch past the slide.
What does that have to do with how loose the slide to frame fit is?

faawrenchbndr
03-30-2011, 06:06
What does that have to do with how loose the slide to frame fit is?

I think he was trying to convey another example of poor QC from Colt.

knedrgr
03-30-2011, 06:12
hahaha...the famous Colt rattle.

bac1023
03-30-2011, 06:41
hahaha...the famous Colt rattle.

Yep :)

GJ1981
03-30-2011, 06:55
Another case of the slide/frame fit being the end all of a 1911 :brickwall:

I don't see how this is remotely a QC issue as much as it is a production build norm. Slide over hang is also very common on production pistols.

Sure, for the price of a Colt they should have some of these little details done, but when has Colt EVER done these things on their standard pistols?

Hokie1911
03-30-2011, 06:56
There are these guys named Chuck, John, Jason, Ted, and Steve that will take care of that for you. :supergrin:

bac1023
03-30-2011, 07:06
There are these guys named Chuck, John, Jason, Ted, and Steve that will take care of that for you. :supergrin:

:thumbsup:

faawrenchbndr
03-30-2011, 07:11
There are these guys named Chuck, John, Jason, Ted, and Steve that will take care of that for you. :supergrin:

Didn't Chuck just do a Colt Rail Gun a few weeks back?

rod727
03-30-2011, 07:17
There are these guys named Chuck, John, Jason, Ted, and Steve that will take care of that for you. :supergrin:
When I get these kids out of college I'm sending out a 70 series!!

Nickpisp
03-30-2011, 07:20
Another case of the slide/frame fit being the end all of a 1911 :brickwall:

I don't see how this is remotely a QC issue as much as it is a production build norm. Slide over hang is also very common on production pistols.

Sure, for the price of a Colt they should have some of these little details done, but when has Colt EVER done these things on their standard pistols?


Most of them I've seen lately are flush. Getting it fixed is as simple as sending a PM to Brent on one of the forums he's a member on. I know those shouldn't make it out in the first place though.

G27RR
03-30-2011, 07:57
Most of them I've seen lately are flush. Getting it fixed is as simple as sending a PM to Brent on one of the forums he's a member on. I know those shouldn't make it out in the first place though.

My Combat Elite is flush. No rattling or loose slide to frame fit. The areas discussed so far are fit better than my Range Officer. They both shoot great, though.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/IMG_1816.jpg

Hokie1911
03-30-2011, 08:00
Didn't Chuck just do a Colt Rail Gun a few weeks back?

Did he? I don't remember seeing it. :dunno:

I bet that looked kickass.

up1911fan
03-30-2011, 08:03
Yeah he did, I don't think he posted it on GT though.

knedrgr
03-30-2011, 08:23
Did he? I don't remember seeing it. :dunno:

I bet that looked kickass.

Yeah he did, I don't think he posted it on GT though.

He had posted it on another forum. As always, it's quality work. And there were some major issues with it, before he put is hands on it.

Me personally, I'm not a fan of Colt Rail Guns, but in this case, I would own the one that Chuck worked over.

Agent6-3/8
03-30-2011, 08:23
Hmm... If the rear of the slide doesn't match up with the frame, then thats and issue that shoud have never left the factory. As far as a loose slide to frame fit, thats a whole nother story. My thoughts on my matter:

1. Remeber what you're buying; a mid-range 1911, not a Bear.

2. Slide to frame fit doesn't have nearly as much to do with accuracy as many think.

3. I'd rather Colt build a relaible slightly loose gun than pull a Kimber and try to crank out an overly tight, mass produced, mid-range product won't run.

My XSE Commander is a little loose, buts its more accurate than I am and super reliable. I once mixed empty cases in the mag along with live ammo to practive failure drills. I found the dang think will feed empties as smooth as hardball.

R0CKETMAN
03-30-2011, 08:47
There are these guys named Chuck, John, Jason, Ted, and Steve that will take care of that for you. :supergrin:

:thumbsup:

oh go ahead and post the d@m^ pic:devildance::nutcheck:

faawrenchbndr
03-30-2011, 09:21
Did he? I don't remember seeing it. :dunno:

I bet that looked kickass.

As posted on TOS.....see post #3 for pics! :thumbsup:

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=306794

bac1023
03-30-2011, 10:34
When I get these kids out of college I'm sending out a 70 series!!

Mark Morris did a hell of a job with this Series 70 last year. :)

Its as tight as any 1911 I own.

http://morriscustompistols.com


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/060-1.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/062-1.jpg

Hokie1911
03-30-2011, 10:58
As posted on TOS.....see post #3 for pics! :thumbsup:

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=306794

Whoa. Thanks Greg. BIG improvement.

Cerebrus
03-30-2011, 11:48
Can ya pick out the Colt?
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm320/cerebrus2099/IMG_0896.jpg
http://http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm320/cerebrus2099/IMG_0896.jpg

I really need to get a better camera..

38 Super Fan
03-30-2011, 12:16
The newer Colts definately aren't great in the way of fit. I must say however that my old National Match model from 62 is a VERY well built 1911. The slide to frame fit is excellent, as is the fit and finish of entire gun overall. I certainly think it's on par with some of the better production level 1911s available today. There was a time which Colt put out a very good 1911.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n602/hackman1911/NMColt017.jpg

BlayGlock
03-31-2011, 04:52
Looked at a Colt SS full size rail gun today. I'd be lying if I said the fitting looked good.

I compared it to the RO and loaded, made them look like a TGO :shocked:

What is up with colt?

Blasphemy!!!!!
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p>Don’t you know that if it aint a Colt its only a copy and that muh grandpappy’s Colt singlehandedly stormed the beach at Normandy so you shut your mouth when you are talking to me you stupid 1911 noob!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl:

bac1023
03-31-2011, 10:42
The newer Colts definately aren't great in the way of fit. I must say however that my old National Match model from 62 is a VERY well built 1911. The slide to frame fit is excellent, as is the fit and finish of entire gun overall. I certainly think it's on par with some of the better production level 1911s available today. There was a time which Colt put out a very good 1911.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n602/hackman1911/NMColt017.jpg

I agree Cody.

My '67 NM is also well fit.

bac1023
03-31-2011, 10:42
Blasphemy!!!!!
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p>Don’t you know that if it aint a Colt its only a copy and that muh grandpappy’s Colt singlehandedly stormed the beach at Normandy so you shut your mouth when you are talking to me you stupid 1911 noob!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

FreeAmerican
03-31-2011, 12:01
My recent 9mm Defender is fitted perfectly.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG00124-20110219-1410.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG00125-20110219-1410.jpg

My Black RG is as well and shoots better than any other 1911 I have. I would stack it against just about any 1911 out there.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Colt_RG2.jpg

Sighting in the RG using hand loads (230 gr lead ball over 4 gr of Bullseye) at 25 yards. This is 5 shots.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG00165-20110221-1201.jpg

Drifted the sight and fired 3 more
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG00164-20110221-1201.jpg

I can not complain about what is coming out of Colt these days.

bac1023
03-31-2011, 12:15
Very nice, FA.

bac1023
03-31-2011, 12:15
I can not complain about what is coming out of Colt these days.

They have certainly improved over 10-15 years ago.

FreeAmerican
03-31-2011, 12:19
They have certainly improved over 10-15 years ago.

And its not to say they still may ship something that is just flat out of spec. But most of what I see is 1000 times better.

Nickpisp
03-31-2011, 12:21
My last few new ones are fit almost as well as my '67 NM.

bac1023
03-31-2011, 12:27
My last few new ones are fit almost as well as my '67 NM.

Impressive

Bob469
03-31-2011, 12:31
When were colts golden years so to speak ?

Like early GI guns ?

60's-70's ?

80's-90's ?

Present ?


Maybe I shoulda made a poll haha but i didnt know if it was something that was known around here with you experts :wavey:

FreeAmerican
03-31-2011, 12:35
When were colts golden years so to speak ?

Like early GI guns ?

60's-70's ?

80's-90's ?

Present ?


Maybe I shoulda made a poll haha but i didnt know if it was something that was known around here with you experts :wavey:

I've seen the most amount of sub par examples during the 80's and 90's

Nickpisp
03-31-2011, 12:48
When were colts golden years so to speak ?

Like early GI guns ?

60's-70's ?

80's-90's ?

Present ?


Maybe I shoulda made a poll haha but i didnt know if it was something that was known around here with you experts :wavey:


Probably 50's - 70's.

38 Super Fan
03-31-2011, 14:08
When were colts golden years so to speak ?

Like early GI guns ?

60's-70's ?

80's-90's ?

Present ?


Maybe I shoulda made a poll haha but i didnt know if it was something that was known around here with you experts :wavey:

The early civilian models were very good, I like pretty much all of the pre series 70 Colts.

Foxtrotx1
04-05-2011, 01:07
I shouldn't blanket all all Colts under my original post. I didn't think much before typing that out. I should say, the ONE pistol I looked at felt alot less "solid" than the springers.

ArmoryDoc
04-05-2011, 09:34
My new Series 70 reissue is well made and fitted. Milled straight, logo's straight, fitment is above average and the finish very good. At 25 yards it hits dead on if I do my part. Only place lacking on it is the trigger, which has a little creep. It will smooth out with use. Well worth the money and American made by the legendary company. :)

quantico
04-10-2011, 15:23
I just purchased a pair of delta elites. Fit is very very good with tight bushing and slide to frame fit. The only thing is the triggers have some creep and are heavy. I can fix that. I will know more after a few hundred rounds thru each.