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Agent Tikki
04-14-2011, 13:37
I'm pricing out a Dillon 650 setup right now, and have a quick question...

When putting together a caliber conversion, do I need, the

Caliber conversion kit,
Dies,
and deluxe quick change kit only?

Or do I need to also get the

Priming quick change,
Powder check system,
and Powder check conversions

For each tool head?

themighty9mm
04-14-2011, 13:46
The first one. Even at that you wont need a powder drop for every conversion.

shotgunred
04-14-2011, 14:18
All you need is the Caliber conversion kit and Dies.
After that it is just personal preference.
My personal preference is to keep each caliber on its own tool head with powder funnel. That way everything is always adjusted.

For flipping between 9mm and 40 I swap out the tool head and change the powder adapter over to the other power funnel.
I did order the deluxe quick change kit for the 223 Caliber conversion. That saves having to change out the powder bar.

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 14:37
You need

Caliber conversion kit and dies.

You WANT

A toolhead for each caliber.
A powder die for each caliber.

Luxury=

All the other crap they sell.

ron59
04-14-2011, 15:03
The first one. Even at that you wont need a powder drop for every conversion.

I bought the powder "quick change" kit when I added my first conversion (for .45ACP). I have two toolheads, completely setup. All I have to do is pull the pins, swap the heads and shellplates, and maybe primer stuff.

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 15:06
You need

Caliber conversion kit and dies.

You WANT

A toolhead for each caliber.
A powder die for each caliber.

Luxury=

All the other crap they sell.

You need a UNIQUETEK micrometer to go with your one powder drop IMHO.... makes life so much simpler having your common used powders graphed and just punching the numbers on a spread sheet to get it dialed in.

Have a good look at the breakdown for caliber conversions, you can save a little coin incorporating parts from 2 or 3 by just adding a case feed adapter, station 1 locator or powder funnel for a few bucks more.

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 15:11
I loaded and switched calibers a lot using just a wing nut adapter on the measure and writing down were the wing was pointing (ie 12:30). It was easy to reset the measure from one powder to the next.

Agent Tikki
04-14-2011, 15:20
You need

Caliber conversion kit and dies.

You WANT

A toolhead for each caliber.
A powder die for each caliber.

Luxury=

All the other crap they sell.



Love this, thx :supergrin:

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 15:24
I loaded and switched calibers a lot using just a wing nut adapter on the measure and writing down were the wing was pointing (ie 12:30). It was easy to reset the measure from one powder to the next.

Yeah, I agree to an extent but if you using 2-3 varying density powders...

TG and WST for example... God it makes such a difference!:supergrin:

Agent Tikki
04-14-2011, 15:33
Yeah, I agree to an extent but if you using 2-3 varying density powders...

TG and WST for example... God it makes such a difference!:supergrin:



You would only need one Micrometer right for one powder dispensor right?

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 15:40
I have ordered a 650 for 9mm with a case-feeder of course. I have been deciding on what to do with my other calibers. .380 and 10mm. Basically I would need another $200 to load those two calibers. For about $165 I can get a LCT for two calibers (on sale at midway right now). I don't need a lot of volume/speed for these two calibers either. So the LCT should be perfect to just load a couple hundred at a time, every once in a while. Every caliber after that cost a grand total of $10 for a new 4 hole turret. Pretty reasonable.

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 15:43
Yeah, I agree to an extent but if you using 2-3 varying density powders...

TG and WST for example... God it makes such a difference!:supergrin:

I agree, it's really nice. Just ignore the directions and use JB Weld rather then the little thing they give you. Perhaps the stuff they give you will work fine if you do it perfect. But lots of people don't (including myself). I am a read the directions kind of guy. If it says to sand, I sand it well, if it says to clean I clean it twice. Mine still came apart. JBWeld won't run into the threads and ruin the item either. Much easier and safer and I would guess stronger as well.

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 15:47
You would only need one Micrometer right for one powder dispensor right?

YES, I have one for the small powder bar for my 9mm and .380 AUTO

I'm gonna get one for the large bar in my Rifle powder drop too as I intend to experiment with different powders.

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 15:50
I have ordered a 650 for 9mm with a case-feeder of course. I have been deciding on what to do with my other calibers. .380 and 10mm. Basically I would need another $200 to load those two calibers. For about $165 I can get a LCT for two calibers (on sale at midway right now). I don't need a lot of volume/speed for these two calibers either. So the LCT should be perfect to just load a couple hundred at a time, every once in a while. Every caliber after that cost a grand total of $10 for a new 4 hole turret. Pretty reasonable.

Don't get the .380 Steve... buy a .223 instead, use your 9mm funnel and just get a .380 only case feed adapter $13. You'll be able to load .380 now and later when you get that 3-gun AR set up load .223 too! :supergrin:

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 15:55
Don't get the .380 Steve... buy a .223 instead, use your 9mm funnel and just get a .380 only case feed adapter $13. You'll be able to load .380 now and later when you get that 3-gun AR set up load .223 too! :supergrin:

So the .223 shellplate will work for .380. I use the same casefeeder plate of course. What about the other parts of the casefeeder? I know it's the same funnel of course.

unclebob
04-14-2011, 15:55
Or you can switch out the powder bars. You can buy two powder bars for the price of one Uniquetek. Plus no chasing adjustments If you don't want to buy extra powder measures. Have not tried it but you probably could use the Lee Pro Auto-Disk powder measure?
I have two complete primer assemblies. Not 100% needed but it does make going from large to small primers go faster. I also use the small primer punch for both small and large primers.

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 16:08
So the .223 shellplate will work for .380. I use the same casefeeder plate of course. What about the other parts of the casefeeder? I know it's the same funnel of course.

All the .223 conversions parts are the same as the .380 except for the case feeder adapter and the funnel (9mm).

LOOK:

.223/.222/.221 Remington Conv. - #21101
#A Powder Funnel - #13426
#3 Shellplate - #13345
CF Arm Bushing, Sm Pistol, Green - #13412
CF Body Bushing, Sm - #13513
CF Adapter 17, 223, 222, 221, White - #13575
#3 Station 1 Locator - #13614
#3 Locator Pin(3) - #14060



380 ACP Conversion - #21104
#F Powder Funnel - #13806
#3 Shellplate - #13345
CF Arm Bushing, Sm Pistol, Green - #13412
CF Body Bushing, Sm - #13513
CF Adapter 380, White - #11573Buy this!
#3 Station 1 Locator - #13614
#3 Locator Pin(3) - #14060

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 16:09
Brian Enos's site says to use the .223 shellplate for .380 already. Some 9mm stuff crosses over but not all of it does. Not sure if it would save much money buying piecemeal and then you don't get the storage case which is kinda nice to have when you want it all in one place.

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 16:11
We posted at the same time. So your suggesting buying the complete .223 setup instead of using the .380 setup and then making a .380 setup by mixing and matching parts? And buy the one casefeeder adapter part. Gotcha.

Boxerglocker
04-14-2011, 16:16
We posted at the same time. So your suggesting buying the complete .223 setup instead of using the .380 setup and then making a .380 setup by mixing and matching parts?

Exactly actually alot on the parts between the 9mm, .380 and .223 are the same.

shotgunred
04-14-2011, 16:49
If you buy the 9 10 and 223 CC kits you can also load 40, 357 sig, 380, 9x25 Dillon,.
AN orange CF adapter gets you 6.8
An S funnel gives you 32, 32-20, and 32 long.

You just have to see what parts cross references vs what you have.

Agent Tikki
04-14-2011, 17:09
If you buy the 9 10 and 223 CC kits you can also load 40, 357 sig, 380, 9x25 Dillon,.
AN orange CF adapter gets you 6.8
An S funnel gives you 32, 32-20, and 32 long.

You just have to see what parts cross references vs what you have.

this is not including dies right?

still wondering why the .357 sig and 9x25 dillon dies are soo expensive >.<

shotgunred
04-14-2011, 17:15
this is not including dies right?

still wondering why the .357 sig and 9x25 dillon dies are soo expensive >.<

Not including dies. Just caliber conversion parts that are used on several different kits. Mix and match to save some bucks.

StaTiK
04-14-2011, 17:40
Not including dies. Just caliber conversion parts that are used on several different kits. Mix and match to save some bucks.

I think a lot of people overlook this when pricing out the 650 conversion costs.

-StaTiK-

Agent Tikki
04-14-2011, 17:44
I think a lot of people overlook this when pricing out the 650 conversion costs.

-StaTiK-


not meeee :supergrin:

Colorado4Wheel
04-14-2011, 18:30
If your new to Dillon it's all very confusing.

shotgunred
04-15-2011, 10:00
B.E. has a real nice color coded chart for cross referencing with the 550B caliber conversions. But I haven't seen anything as nice set up for the 650.