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Small Tony
04-15-2011, 00:19
I started a thread under General Firearms asking about the Rock Island Armory which I got good feed back.

I'm just looking for a basic 1911 for some range time and add a 1911 to the collection. However, looking at some 1911s I came across some several nice Remingtion R1s.

For a $100 or so more I could buy a Remington. I got good feed back on the RIA but wondering what you all thought about the Remington 1911 R1?

Thanks...

heitzoflearning
04-15-2011, 01:23
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1269683

If you haven't read that do yourself a favor. I can only speak to RIAs since I don't own a Remington. RIA makes a very nice pistol for the price. To me personally I like the look of the R1 better though.

Scamp
04-15-2011, 05:33
I can only speak to RIAs since I don't own a Remington. RIA makes a very nice pistol for the price. To me personally I like the look of the R1 better though.

Same here....but that's probably because I want the Remington now!

jrs93accord
04-15-2011, 06:14
Since I own both, I will chime in. With the Remington R1, you get a nicer finish than the RIA. Of course, that will cost about $150-$250 more for the Remington, depending on where you buy. Performance is about the same for each pistol. If you can afford to buy the Remington R1, then do so. Just remember, the RIA is hard to beat when it comes down to the best bang for the buck.

southernshooter
04-15-2011, 06:30
I have a Remington but not a Rock Island. Remington actually looks like a high end 1911. Mine works well. The only drawback is some trigger creep. Can't have everything for $599. Reliability is the most important thing with accuracy next. R1 has both of those. From what I read, so does the Rock Island. Don't leave Springfield mil specs and GI's out of the mix, seems like everybody that buys one has great things to say about them.

Quack
04-15-2011, 06:45
Remington R1 photo review
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1230471

range report
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1231312

Hokie1911
04-15-2011, 07:28
I have only shot the Remington, and it was pleasantly surprised. A ton of folks love their RIAs though. If you can spring the extra cash, like James said...the fit and finish justify the cost difference. Both, along with the Springfield Mil-Spec are great choices in that price range. You will be happy with any of the 3.

Caspian17
04-15-2011, 07:39
I just like that the remington is u.s. made.

TKR Reptiles
04-15-2011, 08:06
I've never owned or shot a R1, but I did have a RIA tactical... The RIA was very nice for the money... It shot very accurately and dependably, but the parkerized finish was not so nice for me... After just one trip to the range, the top of the slide was all scratch up from the shell casings hitting it... If you don't mind em getting a little scratched up, then I would definitely recommend the RIA...

wmspdi
04-15-2011, 08:14
One difference is the RIA is a Series 70 gun without the firing pin safety and the Remington is a Series 80. It's a little harder to get a nice trigger job on a Series 80 due to the firing pin safety parts.

I have an RIA FS 9mm Tactical for IDPA and don't mind a well oiled Parkerized finish. I plan to have the front strap checked at 20 lpi as soon as my smith has time, so I will be sending it out for hard chrome after it's done anyway. YMMV.

heitzoflearning
04-15-2011, 09:01
I've never owned or shot a R1, but I did have a RIA tactical... The RIA was very nice for the money... It shot very accurately and dependably, but the parkerized finish was not so nice for me... After just one trip to the range, the top of the slide was all scratch up from the shell casings hitting it... If you don't mind em getting a little scratched up, then I would definitely recommend the RIA...

That is my biggest complaint as well.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-15-2011, 09:10
My one and only complaint about my old RIA is I hated the rollmarks.....that is it. I couldn't stand it I had to let it go.

bac1023
04-15-2011, 10:50
Both are great entry level 1911s. As others mentioned, the Remington is a series 80, while the RIA has no FPS.

Both of them have Mil-spec features. Neither is a true USGI replica. The Remington has the nicer finish and is a better looking 1911, in my opinion.


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MajorD
04-15-2011, 12:14
I do like the fact the Remington is made in the USA- just can't wrap myself around a foregin made 1911 even though the RIA's and associated guns( multiple companies market these phillipines made guns under different names) and Springfield(Brazil) have good functional reputations

bac1023
04-15-2011, 12:28
I do like the fact the Remington is made in the USA- just can't wrap myself around a foregin made 1911 even though the RIA's and associated guns( multiple companies market these phillipines made guns under different names) and Springfield(Brazil) have good functional reputations

Actually Armscor is only one Filipino manufacturer. There are three.

jrs93accord
04-15-2011, 14:00
I do like the fact the Remington is made in the USA- just can't wrap myself around a foregin made 1911 even though the RIA's and associated guns( multiple companies market these phillipines made guns under different names) and Springfield(Brazil) have good functional reputations

For me, I do not care where it was made as long as it is a good quality firearm. Take the Turkish-made IAC Regent 100 1911A1 for instance, according to Peter G. Kokalis (Shotgun News), it is one of the best 1911A1 clones built. I tend to agree with him. There is nothing that says only the U.S. can build a quality firearm. The Russians have been doing it for years. In this day and age, you have to be a little bit flexible or you are going to miss out on owning some nice pistols.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-15-2011, 14:18
Bac is it just me on that last pic the Thumb safety on the R1 looks rough??

RMTactical
04-15-2011, 22:58
Between the two I would choose the Remington.

bac1023
04-15-2011, 23:02
Bac is it just me on that last pic the Thumb safety on the R1 looks rough??

Maybe a little, but it doesn't bother my thumb or hand when shooting it.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-15-2011, 23:05
Maybe a little, but it doesn't bother my thumb or hand when shooting it.
I meant the fitting it looks not shaped right or something.



Oh and what clips do you use in it :whistling:



I also would like to thank everyone on this sub-forum for all their help besides you Brian.

:rofl:

bac1023
04-15-2011, 23:22
Oh and what clips do you use in it :whistling:



I also would like to thank everyone on this sub-forum for all their help besides you Brian.

:rofl:

:rofl:

That was a riot.

I guess I came off a bit too abrupt in that thread. ;)

Hound_dogs_01
04-15-2011, 23:29
I have a rock island match and i love it. never had a single issue out of it, other than some ammo related problems.

The match is a hand fitted gun in Armscor's custom shop and has no rattles or shimmys in the slide/fram fit. It has a match quality trigger, very minimal creep or over travel.

I paid $642 out the door for it and i think its by far the best 1911 bang for your buck.


Alex

southernshooter
04-16-2011, 02:36
:rofl:

That was a riot.

I guess I came off a bit too abrupt in that thread. ;)

Rem. comes with 2 7 round magazines. Just bought an 8 round colt brand magazine that works just right.

bac1023
04-16-2011, 04:57
Rem. comes with 2 7 round magazines. Just bought an 8 round colt brand magazine that works just right.

Very cool :cool:

woodrowNC
04-16-2011, 05:23
while picking up a g26 at my dealer, i noticed he had a new ria in the case for 450. i had a little extra change on me, and the thought did cross my mind, but i've promised myself no more 1911's until the i'm done with sacs and ccs.

woodrowNC
04-16-2011, 05:29
I do like the fact the Remington is made in the USA- just can't wrap myself around a foregin made 1911 even though the RIA's and associated guns( multiple companies market these phillipines made guns under different names) and Springfield(Brazil) have good functional reputations

i've really made a concerted effort to buy american made if at all possible. except firearms. so many great gun manufacturers with storied histories, it just doesn't seem fair to cheat myself. though i do really dig the fact the r1 is USA. now if we could just get winchester rifles back home.

Eagle22
04-16-2011, 07:31
I looked at many 1911s and shot many under the $800 mark.

Bought the R1 ( $579 ) and been to the range twice now. 300 or so down range. ( mostly Federal 230gn, WWB 230gn, and a few each of Federal HST 230gn and Federal Hi-Shock 185 gn )

also bought 4 Chip MacCormick 8 round mags from CTD

Lots of fun to shoot and looks great too

Have 1000s down range with my G22 so the adjustment to the R1 was minor. Do not notice a recoil difference.

davegen2
04-16-2011, 17:36
I asked Remington if they were going to bring out the R1 in 9mm. They said many people had asked that. If or when they do, I'll be jumping on that purchase.

Frog1
04-17-2011, 11:04
The global guns are good. I have owned the Phillipean and Brazilian guns. Good guns including the much hated Taurus. The Regent looks good. I have never had a bad Turkish gun. They make good shotguns as well.

But at the end of the day, I applaud the person who wants to buy American. American made and owned. Keep the money in the U.S. Don't buy into the Clinton/Bush/Obama Global give-away bull****. That's why I don't buy FN and their owned old U.S. companies. Not a question of quality. The same goes for Springfield Armory. Great quality, foreign parts.

The U.S. owned and made 1911's are the best in the world for quality. The R1 is about $100.00 more than the Marco's specials. It is the best entry level gun for the money. Smith, Dan, Les, Ed, Wilson, STI for upper level guns, and all the high dollar 1911's are worth the money to those who can afford them. For the guys who don't have a lot of money, Remington and Smith offer a lot for the money.

When possible, Savage, Ruger, H-R, Remington, Smith & Wesson, DSA, DPMS, and the CMP get my business. Your kids and grand kids will appreciate the business.

Quack
04-17-2011, 13:03
Hokie shot my R1 today and REALLY liked it.
It looked like he shot it the best today.

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 13:07
Hokie shot my R1 today and REALLY liked it.
It looked like he shot it the best today.

The best 7 round group I had was with the Pro.

Having shot your R1 stock, and now that it's been "enhanced"....I can't imagine a better gun for $700. That thing is a sweet sweet shooter. :supergrin:

Quack
04-17-2011, 13:40
The best 7 round group I had was with the Pro.

Having shot your R1 stock, and now that it's been "enhanced"....I can't imagine a better gun for $700. That thing is a sweet sweet shooter. :supergrin:

I still think you need a flat trigger. it looked like you shot the flat trigger guns better than the curved trigger :tongueout:

PlasticGuy
04-17-2011, 13:42
While the RIA guns are very good quality given their low cost, the Remington R1 has slightly better fitting and a much better finish for a little more money. I really like my R1. It has been 100% reliable with a wide variety of fmj and hp ammo. It's comfortable to shoot, and hits to point of aim. It's not the nicest 1911 I own, but it's as good as any in that price range (and better than most).

bac1023
04-17-2011, 14:04
I still think you need a flat trigger. it looked like you shot the flat trigger guns better than the curved trigger :tongueout:

:rofl:

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 14:05
:rofl:

The curved trigger on my Brown threw him off. :tongueout:

bac1023
04-17-2011, 14:12
The Regent looks good. I have never had a bad Turkish gun. They make good shotguns as well.



The Regent is a good replica, in my opinion.


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http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/003-1.jpg

Quack
04-17-2011, 14:12
The curved trigger on my Brown threw him off. :tongueout:

yes it did. dropped a few shots low.
but you got better groups with the flat trigger than the curved trigger. don't resist it, you know you liked it. :rofl:

bac1023
04-17-2011, 14:35
The curved trigger on my Brown threw him off. :tongueout:

I'm sure it did. Its hard to go back and forth.

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 15:54
yes it did. dropped a few shots low.
but you got better groups with the flat trigger than the curved trigger. don't resist it, you know you liked it. :rofl:

No..........must...........resist.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 15:56
No..........must...........resist.
Paul I swear to god if you put a flat trigger in your gun, we will no longer be facebook friends:rofl:The ultimate punishment.

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 15:58
Paul I swear to god if you put a flat trigger in your gun, we will no longer be facebook friends:rofl:The ultimate punishment.

It's not happenin' dude. :supergrin:

Quack
04-17-2011, 15:59
When you shot my KC, you shot it better than your KC. I'm thinking you actually like the flat trigger.

Next time at the range, shoot them side by side and see which you shoot better.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 15:59
It's not happenin' dude. :supergrin:
Ya now that I threatened you. I know how bad you love having a 23 year old college student, in Georgia, whom you never met, as your friend on Facebook. Makes you feel young again.:tongueout:

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 16:01
Ya now that I threatened you. I know how bad you love having a 23 year old college student, in Georgia, whom you never met, as your friend on Facebook. Makes you feel young again.:tongueout:

Well, you are a sexy b1tch.

Hokie1911
04-17-2011, 16:02
When you shot my KC, you shot it better than your KC. I'm thinking you actually like the flat trigger.

Next time at the range, shoot them side by side and see which you shoot better.

Yeah yeah yeah. It was my first time shooting a 1911 in 6 months coming from my da/sa HK. We will see how it goes next time and how I do with mine vs yours.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:03
When you shot my KC, you shot it better than your KC. I'm thinking you actually like the flat trigger.

Next time at the range, shoot them side by side and see which you shoot better.
Stop trying to recruit, or we will get a petition going to get Eric to ban you.:supergrin:

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:04
Well, you are a sexy b1tch.
Always have been always will be, it is the big ears. People know what is going on down stairs when they see the ears.

Quack
04-17-2011, 16:04
You 2 need to go on "Chat Roulette" :animlol:

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:05
You 2 need to go on "Chat Roulette" :animlol:
You know how many other man's *****es I would have to shuffle through to get to his? That would feel like cheating.











:rofl:

Quack
04-17-2011, 16:05
Always have been always will be, it is the big ears. People know what is going on down stairs when they see the ears.

It gives the guys something to grab hold of?

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:06
It gives the guys something to grab hold of?
No that is what the reigns are for, you are such a virgin.

Plus I am not the one with photographic evidence of something being up my @$$

Quack
04-17-2011, 16:09
I was raped.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:10
I was raped.
That is what they all say, after the regret sets in.

Sammael
04-17-2011, 16:22
Question about the R1:

What about the frames?

Can't remember where, but someone was saying they were cast, and imported. I have no idea, but the sound of a 100% US-made 1911 for 600 bucks is pretty nice... if that is indeed the case.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:23
Question about the R1:

What about the frames? Forged? Imported?

Can't remember where, but someone was saying they were cast, and imported. I have no idea, but the sound of a 100% US-made 1911 for 600 bucks is pretty nice... if that is indeed the case.
They are Cast, but I THINK(key word) they are made in the USA.

Quack
04-17-2011, 16:24
Cast frame, 80 series trigger.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:24
Cast frame, 80 series trigger.
US made or imported frame/slide?

Quack
04-17-2011, 16:26
AFAIK US.

E-RPC is a subsidiary of Remington Arms.

GeorgiaRedfish
04-17-2011, 16:27
AFAIK US.

E-RPC is a subsidiary of Remington Arms.
BOOM two for two.

Sammael
04-17-2011, 18:09
Hmmm, 2 yr warranty though. :/

Quack
04-17-2011, 18:10
Isn't kimber a 1 year warranty?

Small Tony
04-17-2011, 23:58
I like the finish on the Rem R1 vs RIA. For a little more in price I'm gonna go with the R1 as my first entry level 1911.

Although, I am liking the Springfield models for a bit more in price.

Eagle22
04-18-2011, 06:45
I like the finish on the Rem R1 vs RIA. For a little more in price I'm gonna go with the R1 as my first entry level 1911.

Although, I am liking the Springfield models for a bit more in price.

Tony that is why I bought the R1. I could have bought a spring RO, but liked the R1 better. Shot them both too.

Maybe if they both had a 1000 round though it would have been different.

My thought was buy the R1, 4 extra mags ( Chip MacCormick 8 round), lots of quality ammo then nothing but range time and more range time.

I am very happy with my R1.