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JokerOne
04-22-2011, 08:29
thanks

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

Mas Ayoob
04-22-2011, 17:49
It's a matter of perspective, joker.

The victim on the floor is up against the deadly element of disparity of force three times over. First, force of numbers: two against one. Second: physically disadvantaged against the able bodied. She's down on the floor with limited range of movement and probably some injuries already, while her aggressive attackers have freedom of movement. Third: in most jurisdictions, the person being stomped is seen as suffering a lethal force assault.

SHE would be in a strong legal position if she opened fire at her attackers from the floor.

From a rescuer's position, however, jurors would wonder whether a reasonable and prudent adult male would need a gun to intervene physically against two teenage girls, one only 14 according to reports.

Moreover, we can't consider it in a vacuum. The court will explore the totality of the circumstances. If we came in late, are we SURE the two standing females aren't trying to subdue the female on the floor who might have attacked them with a weapon before we came on the scene?

Tactically, that totality of circumstances also includes who else is there, who is on whose side, etc.

These things are all more complicated than they look on home video.

best,
Mas

JokerOne
04-23-2011, 15:55
It's a matter of perspective, joker.

The victim on the floor is up against the deadly element of disparity of force three times over. First, force of numbers: two against one. Second: physically disadvantaged against the able bodied. She's down on the floor with limited range of movement and probably some injuries already, while her aggressive attackers have freedom of movement. Third: in most jurisdictions, the person being stomped is seen as suffering a lethal force assault.

SHE would be in a strong legal position if she opened fire at her attackers from the floor.

From a rescuer's position, however, jurors would wonder whether a reasonable and prudent adult male would need a gun to intervene physically against two teenage girls, one only 14 according to reports.

Moreover, we can't consider it in a vacuum. The court will explore the totality of the circumstances. If we came in late, are we SURE the two standing females aren't trying to subdue the female on the floor who might have attacked them with a weapon before we came on the scene?

Tactically, that totality of circumstances also includes who else is there, who is on whose side, etc.

These things are all more complicated than they look on home video.

best,
Mas


thanks.