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jamaicanj
05-05-2011, 23:25
Good Day

Checking to see if anyone has tried out a red dot sight on their carry Glock.

-How do you like it?
-Which brand?
-How did you install it...milled slide??
-Did you add suppressor sights to co-witness?
-How is it at the range...chasing the dot?
-How is it when used with a tactical light (x300 for example)...does the dot get washed out.

Your input is appreciated

All the best

J

Scott3670
05-05-2011, 23:54
Interesting question - and I'm looking forward to the responses.

TangoFoxtrot
05-06-2011, 02:19
I certainly would like to try one of those mini ones first.

bentbiker
05-06-2011, 09:06
Checking to see if anyone has tried out a red dot sight on their carry Glock.
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv100/bentbiker_bucket/G19wRMR.jpg

-How do you like it? Love it.
-Which brand? Trijicon RMR.
-How did you install it...milled slide?? Yes.
-Did you add suppressor sights to co-witness? Yes.
-How is it at the range...chasing the dot? With the co-witnessed BUIS, it is OK.
-How is it when used with a tactical light (x300 for example)...does the dot get washed out. No way.

If you are contemplating an RDS, you should spend some time at http://www.warriortalk.com/forumdisplay.php?205-Red-Dot-Pistols . In the interest of full disclosure, I do not actually carry, as our sheriff believes that only her officers should have the right to carry. But this is what I'd carry if I were deemed worthy.

ronin.45
05-06-2011, 09:13
I have played with several slide-ride dots and like them ok on race guns. I think they add too much bulk to a carry gun. I like small carry guns though. I never cared for the full-size combat gun and four extra mags thing.

District18
05-06-2011, 09:25
I'm curious to here about using these in low light/ no light. I'd love to get one of my guns outfitted but wondering if it's really worth the price. Would it help longer range shooting in conjunction with say .357 sig pistols?

GRT45
05-06-2011, 09:54
I'm curious to here about using these in low light/ no light. I'd love to get one of my guns outfitted but wondering if it's really worth the price. Would it help longer range shooting in conjunction with say .357 sig pistols?

The relatively flat trajectory of the .357 Sig is an excellent match with an RDS optic for longer range pistol shooting. Head shots at 100 yds. can be made with amazing regularity and torso shots out to 200 yds. are very possible.

Given the right choice of an RDS optic, lighting conditions varying from bright desert sun to night vision illumination can be accommodated. The adjustable Trijicon RMR RM07 (6.5 MOA) can cover that range of lighting conditions.

jamaicanj
12-19-2011, 09:29
My g17 slide with rmr and suppressor sights is on its way back from Mark Housel. I'll be certain to update you all when I get it

troysglock
12-19-2011, 09:48
Could those take the slide beating and function properly? And are they necessary for typical handgun range defense situations?

Goldendog Redux
12-19-2011, 09:51
I think the micro RDS will be pretty common on fighting guns in the future.

silversport
12-20-2011, 05:52
If you are contemplating an RDS, you should spend some time at http://www.warriortalk.com/forumdisplay.php?205-Red-Dot-Pistols . In the interest of full disclosure, I do not actually carry, as our sheriff believes that only her officers should have the right to carry. But this is what I'd carry if I were deemed worthy.

bentbiker said it and gave excellent advice...I am loving mine after I had the red dot sighted in...One Source Tactical did mine (recently lowered their prices) and I also use the Trijicon RMR (RM07 adjustable LED 6.5 dot)... warriortalk.com for all your questions...the most feedback in one place...

I prefer the adjustable over the RM02 (LED 8.0 dot) I have on my FNP-45Tactical...

...just remember to look through the window to your target and you won't be chasing the dot...an added benefit will be that the red dot will reveal your trigger control...it won't cause it but it will show it...enjoy!

GLOCK 17...sent to OST for their slide milling and suppressor sights (these come on the package now instead of as an option when I ordered mine)...Trijicon RMR (the best there is right now) and the slide was given CPII from CCR (advertises on this forum)...OST now also offers their Aqua Terra finish (wasn't offered when I ordered mine)...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/silversport1/P1000199.jpg

Bill

Chonny
12-20-2011, 06:47
Sweet G17!!

tango44
12-20-2011, 06:51
Tagged!

John Eastwood
12-20-2011, 06:54
On my G17 with Burris Fastfire mounted via SJC mini scope mount to the frame, I could never train myself well enough (well, didn't take the time I have to say) to locate the dot quick enough. I spent too much time chasing the dot.

In quick 2-shot/2-second drills from the holster it just wasn't happening for me. The dot did not show up in darkness at all. These are my first-hand experiences. Excellent for gun games and if you want to take the time to re-train yourself, go for it.

Officer's Match
12-20-2011, 07:04
Umm, why am I getting that "everything has just changed/why-oh-why did I look in this thread" feeling?

jwhite75
12-20-2011, 07:10
I like the look sof them on

www.bowietacticalconcepts.com (http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com)

girphoto
12-20-2011, 08:00
Well, I say that using the Red Dot Sight system, takes just a lithe time to get use to.
I think I can talk on the subject since I have 5 guns using red dot systems.
I will say that these guns are used for competition and are NOT carry guns.
Although the red dot is fast to get on target, there are certain concepts to keep in mind.
The Docter Sight.....HAS NO ON/OFF SWITCH AND TURNS OFF WITH LITTLE CAP ON TOP. Not a great idea if your life depends on it. cover falls off and the sight is ON until the battery dies. But for competition I think is great.

The Burris Fast Fire II ....HAS AN ON/OFF SWITCH, BUT THE LITTLE SWITCH SEEMS TO ALWAYS GO ON. GREAT FOR COMPETITION, IMHO NOT FOR CARRY.

C-More........ FOR COMPETITION ONLY... (THIS IS NOT THE STS)

In the normal everyday carry, I find that it would be adding bulk and printing to the carry gun.
But if you want to use a red dot, I suggest that you have the slide custom cut and the best for the job is Glockworx (they have done two for me).

They do not shake loose and are great as long as the battery does not die.
Happy Holidays
Gary
Photos:

THE CUSTOM CUT SLIDE IN THE RAW (BEFORE RE0FINISHING)

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/_MG_8202.jpg


MY G34 GEN 3 RACE GUN WITH DOCTER RED DOT SIGHT

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/G34KKMCOMP1.jpg

MY G17 WITH BURRIS FAST FIRE II

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/gary3-2.jpg

MY FRANKENGLOCK-22 WITH BURRIS FAST FIRE II IN A BURRIS ON TOP MOUNT

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/AA17-1.jpg


MY NON GLOCK RACE GUN IN 38SUPER-MAJOR WITH C-MORE

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/GH1.jpg

MY NON-GLOCK RUGER MARK III WITH C-MORE

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/girphoto/gary1-2.jpg

tango44
12-20-2011, 14:53
Fellow members I'm a big fan of the G19 and it's my EDC, I have a second one and will love a red dot on it, I have no experience with this sights but I tried my brothers G17 last week end and I love it!

Please recommend and give me all the info regarding this awesome accessorie and what to get for my G19.

Thank you.

arushus
12-20-2011, 16:38
Is there any red dots out there that dont require re-milling the slide? Id really like a red dot sight, but Id also like to be able to take it back to stock if need be...

girphoto
12-20-2011, 18:56
Is there any red dots out there that dont require re-milling the slide? Id really like a red dot sight, but Id also like to be able to take it back to stock if need be...

Please don't misunderstand, All red dot sights can be mounted in the rear sight cut. Look at my photo of the Frankenglock, the Burris Fast Fire II is mounted on a Burris mount (about $49.00) and put into the rear sight dovetail.

When you want to go back to sights just remove the mount and put your sight back in.

If you have the cut done by Glockworx, they can make a plate with the rear sight mounted on it and the only thing that you have to do is unscrew the red dot sight and replace with the plate with the rear sight mounted on it.

Hope this helps.

jamaicanj
12-21-2011, 12:16
Update. Just received my slide, rmr and suppressor sights from Mark Housel. The workmanship is excellent. The rmr fits perfectly in the milled area with no room to spare. Communication from Mr Housel was prompt and on point.

I will be certain to give a range report as soon as I get a moment to try it all out.

The link for Mark Housel is:
http://www.landmprecisiongunworks.com/drupal/index.php

dsarge390
12-28-2011, 19:50
I have the Burris Fsat Fire II on my 30SF, with a TLR-1. I like it.
It was strange at first locating the sight picture, being that you try to locate the front sight. The front sight sits lower than the glass reticle, so if you get a front sight picture, you lose the dot. After a dozen holster draws, I corrected my sight picture to rely on my presentation muscle memory. It was then easy to accquire the reticle. Unlike conventional sights (front sight picture in focus, covering target) your target is in focus and you cover it with the dot. Multiple target shots are MUCH faster! Now I see why the IPSA type shooters use them. The Fast Fire automatically changes from low light to bright light conditions. Works very well with the weapon light. If I continue to use it, I would get taller "iron" sights to co-witness the red dot. I seem to have a difficult time acquiring the dot with one handed shooting.

EDCholsters
12-28-2011, 20:52
Update. Just received my slide, rmr and suppressor sights from Mark Housel. The workmanship is excellent. The rmr fits perfectly in the milled area with no room to spare. Communication from Mr Housel was prompt and on point.

I will be certain to give a range report as soon as I get a moment to try it all out.

The link for Mark Housel is:
http://www.landmprecisiongunworks.com/drupal/index.php

Any pics of the work?

gator378
01-22-2012, 13:37
I'm curious to here about using these in low light/ no light. I'd love to get one of my guns outfitted but wondering if it's really worth the price. Would it help longer range shooting in conjunction with say .357 sig pistols?

My Jpoint works great in low light. You can see the red dot, even though you probably need a light for the target. IMO they beat nights sights. I am quicker on target in any light conditions with a red dot than with open sights. Both eyes open dot on target pull trigger. With red dots 50 plus yard shots are easy.

gator378
01-22-2012, 13:40
I think the micro RDS will be pretty common on fighting guns in the future.




+1 The future is already here.

jeffreybehr
01-22-2012, 16:06
Good Day
Checking to see if anyone has tried out a red dot sight on their carry Glock.

-How do you like it? It was great for accuracy but NOT great for acquiring a sight picture quickly...for ME. YMMV.

-Which brand? JPoint.
-How did you install it...milled slide?? No, in the stock slot on a JPoint plate.
-Did you add suppressor sights to co-witness? Don't know what either of those terms mean.
-How is it at the range...chasing the dot? Slow, for me, but great for accuracy. I believe it'd be great for hunting.
-How is it when used with a tactical light (x300 for example)...does the dot get washed out. Don't know.

J

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/31wreddot_1280w-1.jpg

I ended up with a Glock tac-lite/lazer-sight, a GTL21, and it lives on my EDC gun, a 31gen4.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/Two357swithtacliteson_1280w.jpg

My JPoint is now surplus and available; e-mail me at jeffreybehe(at)cox(dot)net if you're interested. I expect we can make a deal. :cool:

ETD1010
01-25-2012, 17:20
We do Cuts on slides for red dots, and can even co-witness sights scroll down the spec sheets to see them. We had a couple at SHOT SHOW.

http://zevinc.com/epk/Spec-Sheets/Combined%20Files_lower%20res.pdf

jamaicanj
01-26-2012, 12:24
Ok. I took my rmr'd G17 to the range and I love it. It takes a little getting used to finding the dot initially and I actually found that it was taking longer to get on target from low ready, but after quite a bit of practice I'm back up to speed. Also once the dot has been acquired my time to get on target for the next shot is much quicker.

What I really love about the rmr setup is that the dot is unforgiving as it dances around to expose any deficiencies with your trigger pull.

No regrets from me in putting down the $$$ to get this set up.

Thanks again to Mark Housel for the outstandinf craftmanship, fast turnaround, great communication and and for actually delivering before the estimated date.

http://www.landmprecisiongunworks.com/drupal/index.php