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Hokiegrass
05-09-2011, 21:29
Ranger-T

What do you use for .357 sig hollowpoint ammo?

Also, I picked up a couple boxes of 125gr ranger-t LE ammo and then looked at the winchester comparison chart of ranger-t ammo, and was underwhelmed by its performance. it looks like it underperforms against most of the ranger-t line of 9mm. The bonded version of the 125gr looks great, but I was wondering why the regular underperforms when compared to the others. Any thoughts?

The Retired Sarge
05-09-2011, 22:54
I agree on the shallow penetration as by Winchester's own test charts. The Ranger T 357SIG round should perform well in the real world though. In my Glock 32 I carry the 125gr Federal HST which has good expansion with adequate penetration. Speer Gold Dot is my second choice. Bill

pbs357
05-09-2011, 23:23
I carry Gold Dots. In addition to the above I've also seen 125gr jhp in: CorBon, Remington, Double Tap, Winchester White Box JHP,

fredj338
05-10-2011, 00:11
Ranger-T

What do you use for .357 sig hollowpoint ammo?

Also, I picked up a couple boxes of 125gr ranger-t LE ammo and then looked at the winchester comparison chart of ranger-t ammo, and was underwhelmed by its performance. it looks like it underperforms against most of the ranger-t line of 9mm. The bonded version of the 125gr looks great, but I was wondering why the regular underperforms when compared to the others. Any thoughts?

The higher impact vel causes rapid expansion & loss of peetration. The various bonded bullets do a better job. I happily carry the Ranger, SGDHP or Rem GSB (if you can find it). All make 1300fps in my P239.

Hokiegrass
05-10-2011, 06:03
The higher impact vel causes rapid expansion & loss of peetration. The various bonded bullets do a better job. I happily carry the Ranger, SGDHP or Rem GSB (if you can find it). All make 1300fps in my P239.

Do you carry the bonded version of those bullets? Thanks.

dkf
05-10-2011, 07:19
Cheaper than Dirt currently has some Rem Golden Saber Bonded in stock if you want to try those. I carry HSTs and GDs right now.

RMD
05-10-2011, 07:53
Ranger-T

What do you use for .357 sig hollowpoint ammo?

Also, I picked up a couple boxes of 125gr ranger-t LE ammo and then looked at the winchester comparison chart of ranger-t ammo, and was underwhelmed by its performance. it looks like it underperforms against most of the ranger-t line of 9mm. The bonded version of the 125gr looks great, but I was wondering why the regular underperforms when compared to the others. Any thoughts?

I carry the "hotter" SGDs (54234).

atl-g33
05-10-2011, 08:55
I carry 125g HST's in my p226 and Corbon 125g DPX in my g33. Have some Ranger T's laying around as well but they are not in the cycle atm. The HST is one nice feeling round though I must say.

fredj338
05-10-2011, 09:31
Do you carry the bonded version of those bullets? Thanks.

Yes, either of the three I mentioned. The HST looks good too, just haven't bought any yet. I feel the higher impact vel warrants a bonded bullet to prevent fragmentation & increase penetration.

cowboy1964
05-10-2011, 09:36
I never noticed how shallow that RangerT 357 SIG is. Also note how much weight it lost. It must be making a heck of a temporary stretch cavity.

Hokiegrass
05-10-2011, 10:51
I never noticed how shallow that RangerT 357 SIG is. Also note how much weight it lost. It must be making a heck of a temporary stretch cavity.

No doubt. It must wreak havoc on the tissue it hits on impact because of how quickly it slows and loses weight.

fredj338
05-10-2011, 13:37
No doubt. It must wreak havoc on the tissue it hits on impact because of how quickly it slows and loses weight.
Yeah, if you ever shoot some animate objects w/ the 357sig & any JHP, it's pretty impressive how much energy tansfer there is. Now whether that makes it a "better" round is debatable, but more vel is always good if the bullet will stand it on impact.

1canvas
05-10-2011, 21:11
Yes, either of the three I mentioned. The HST looks good too, just haven't bought any yet. I feel the higher impact vel warrants a bonded bullet to prevent fragmentation & increase penetration.

i use all bonded Gold Dots in all of my defense rounds. for the 357sig i also use HSTs around the house and urban areas, Gold Dots for the woods and rural areas. as far as HSTs they are the only non bonded bullet i would use. i have watched enough video tests to know the HST is not coming apart and as far as penetration the HST does well. so for the sig its either Gold Dots or HSTs, i have great confidence in both.

unit1069
05-10-2011, 21:46
What do you use for .357 sig hollowpoint ammo?

Federal 125-grain HST, Speer 125-Gold Dot, Fiocchi 124-grain Extrema XTP (haven't shot any yet), Double Tap 125- and 147-grain Gold Dot.

I also saved ten rounds of Remington green/white box 125-grain JHP that from what few sites I've been able to find seems to be a good self-defense round. Although this caliber comes in for much criticism over the fewer number of ammo choices compared to other duty calibers what ammo is available is reputedly excellent stuff. The 125-grain Speer Gold Dot receives the most accolades from what I gather and that may possibly be due to that specific bullet's shallow cup having been designed expressly for the caliber.

The first two rounds listed above are what I currently have loaded in my mags, but as often as not one of the mags is loaded with the Double Tap 147-grain Gold Dot. I think .357sig is the proper caliber for that weight bullet - 1250 fps/510 ft lbs muzzle energy through a 4" barrel if DT's numbers are accurate.

I'd really like trying Golden Saber Bonded but checking CTD's site I didn't see any offered in .357sig.

dkf
05-11-2011, 07:13
I'd really like trying Golden Saber Bonded but checking CTD's site I didn't see any offered in .357sig.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM313-1.html

Hokiegrass
05-11-2011, 07:40
I just picked up a few boxes of 125gr gold dot. I'm going to use these instead of the Ranger-t. Also interested in the 147gr sig bullets as well.

RMD
05-11-2011, 08:37
I just picked up a few boxes of 125gr gold dot. I'm going to use these instead of the Ranger-t. Also interested in the 147gr sig bullets as well.

Can't go wrong with the GDs. Didja get the 3918s or the 4234s?

fredj338
05-11-2011, 09:26
Federal 125-grain HST, Speer 125-Gold Dot, Fiocchi 124-grain Extrema XTP (haven't shot any yet), Double Tap 125- and 147-grain Gold Dot.

I also saved ten rounds of Remington green/white box 125-grain JHP that from what few sites I've been able to find seems to be a good self-defense round. Although this caliber comes in for much criticism over the fewer number of ammo choices compared to other duty calibers what ammo is available is reputedly excellent stuff. The 125-grain Speer Gold Dot receives the most accolades from what I gather and that may possibly be due to that specific bullet's shallow cup having been designed expressly for the caliber.

The first two rounds listed above are what I currently have loaded in my mags, but as often as not one of the mags is loaded with the Double Tap 147-grain Gold Dot. I think .357sig is the proper caliber for that weight bullet - 1250 fps/510 ft lbs muzzle energy through a 4" barrel if DT's numbers are accurate.

I'd really like trying Golden Saber Bonded but checking CTD's site I didn't see any offered in .357sig.

I have played w/ other bullet reloading & think that a 135grJHP @ 1300fps would be about perfect. I used the Speer 135grGDHSB to make some loads up. I stayed intentionally lower vel due to the larger 0.357 bullet, still makes 1250fps easily.
The 125grRemGSB is available form time to time. The bullet is also specificly designed for the 357sig. Both shape & HP design, very shallow cup point, work to fi the round. Perfromance is on par w/ the GDHP, at least in my crude wetpack testing.:supergrin:

Hokiegrass
05-11-2011, 11:24
Can't go wrong with the GDs. Didja get the 3918s or the 4234s?

I got the 4234s. I researched them and it looked like they are a little higher fps. Is there any other difference between them? Thanks

dkf
05-11-2011, 12:43
I got the 4234s. I researched them and it looked like they are a little higher fps. Is there any other difference between them? Thanks

5 petal GD vs 6 petal GD bullet. The higher velocity version has the 6 petal version. I have both, have to get a pic some time with both side by side. Below is a 5 petal GD next to a Hornady XTP.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/SDV10/357SIGSpeerGD23918andHornadyXTPjpg.jpg

Hokiegrass
05-11-2011, 13:12
5 petal GD vs 6 petal GD bullet. The higher velocity version has the 6 petal version. I have both, have to get a pic some time with both side by side. Below is a 5 petal GD next to a Hornady XTP.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/SDV10/357SIGSpeerGD23918andHornadyXTPjpg.jpg


Nice. Thanks!

RMD
05-11-2011, 13:38
5 petal GD vs 6 petal GD bullet. The higher velocity version has the 6 petal version. I have both, have to get a pic some time with both side by side. Below is a 5 petal GD next to a Hornady XTP.


I have some 3972 around, too. I think it's an older LE 6 petal design as well.

RedHaze
05-11-2011, 14:32
I carry CorBon 125gr in my 32, and a spare mag of gold dot.

Previously I carried Fiocchi extrema 124gr XTP. But was a little underwhelmed with performance.

My reload, 125gr HAP (hornady action pistol) vs 124gr XTP
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/222756_1709578622473_1328317000_31481933_4588287_n.jpg

Both only penetrated into the third water jug, XTP dented the rear of the third jug.
HAP stopped short of the rear and came to a stop somewhere in the third jug.
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222070_1709580102510_1328317000_31481936_2709349_n.jpg

I haven't bothered with testing my gold dots. As they have a pretty solid track record.
And I managed to forget my camera the day I did my CorBon load. Had a good sized slug of lead right out the back of the forth jug, and a ton of fragments in one and two, with just a few in three.

1canvas
05-11-2011, 15:20
what is the difference between the 5 petal bullet and 6 othe than velocity? does one open up more and the other penetrate more?

RMD
05-11-2011, 21:09
what is the difference between the 5 petal bullet and 6 othe than velocity? does one open up more and the other penetrate more?

On a thread from last year, I remember someone saying the 3918s (5 petals) were made .2gr lighter and the bullet was supposed to give 1.5-2 inches less penetration & help with shot recovery times.

unit1069
05-12-2011, 05:04
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM313-1.html

Thanks for the info.

unit1069
05-12-2011, 05:12
Previously I carried Fiocchi extrema 124gr XTP. But was a little underwhelmed with performance.

According to some experienced reloaders the 124-grain XTP bullet is a 9mm design that performs well at .357sig velocities. I carry the Fiocchi 115-grain Extrema XTP in my PF-9 because it is the most accurate round I've yet tested. However, when I tried the 124-grain Extrema XTP through my Steyr M9-A1 I was disappointed as the accuracy just wasn't there. Perhaps it was the shooter.

What were your results with the XTP's penetration and expansion?

unit1069
05-12-2011, 05:17
On a thread from last year, I remember someone saying the 3918s (5 petals) were made .2gr lighter and the bullet was supposed to give 1.5-2 inches less penetration & help with shot recovery times.

And in yet another thread it was my understanding that the six-petal, deep cavity Gold Dot is actually a 9mm design whereas the five petal, shallow cup Gold Dot is a .357sig bullet. Others commented that the deep cavity 6-petal may be an older Gold Dot design.

Another GT member had pictures of his 3918 ammo and it's the same bullet as the 54234. The only difference is the former is loaded about 25-50 fps slower.

RMD
05-12-2011, 08:58
...Another GT member had pictures of his 3918 ammo and it's the same bullet as the 54234. The only difference is the former is loaded about 25-50 fps slower.

Isn't DKF's pic w/5 petals a 3918? The 4234s I have don't have 5 petals.

I think I've confused myself now :)

fredj338
05-12-2011, 09:22
I carry CorBon 125gr in my 32, and a spare mag of gold dot.

Previously I carried Fiocchi extrema 124gr XTP. But was a little underwhelmed with performance.

My reload, 125gr HAP (hornady action pistol) vs 124gr XTP
Both only penetrated into the third water jug, XTP dented the rear of the third jug.
HAP stopped short of the rear and came to a stop somewhere in the third jug.

I haven't bothered with testing my gold dots. As they have a pretty solid track record.
And I managed to forget my camera the day I did my CorBon load. Had a good sized slug of lead right out the back of the forth jug, and a ton of fragments in one and two, with just a few in three.
You should, you'll find the GD penetrates about the same. Water is a tough test on any bullet. I have handloaded the 124grXTP to 1300fps & it performs as well as any of the bonded bullets in wetpack testing.
On a thread from last year, I remember someone saying the 3918s (5 petals) were made .2gr lighter and the bullet was supposed to give 1.5-2 inches less penetration & help with shot recovery times.
There can be as much as 0.2gr variation among any JHP loading, that would have zero affect on recoil. The JHP design is what determins expansion & penetration.
At impact vel above 1300fps, non bonded JHP want to fragment. Is that good or bad? Depends on your school of thought. SOme like the idea of some fragmentation, cause secondary wounds & a larger temp cavity. Fragmentation also reduces penetration, so if choosing a load for apt living, that may be a better choice.

gatorboy
05-12-2011, 09:42
Isn't DKF's pic w/5 petals a 3918? The 4234s I have don't have 5 petals.

I think I've confused myself now :)

I've got 500'rds. of each and they're the same bullet.

Also, all gold dot's for 9mm are 124's and 125's for 357auto. The bonded golden sabers are the same and just as different in profile. HST also have 124 and 125 bullets.

Love shooting steel plates with 357auto. Even the far ones smack as soon as you squeeze the trigger. Theres a slight delay in 40 and more so in 45.

dkf
05-12-2011, 09:43
Isn't DKF's pic w/5 petals a 3918?

Correct.

RMD
05-12-2011, 09:46
I've got 500'rds. of each and they're the same bullet.

Also, all gold dot's for 9mm are 124's and 125's for 357auto. The bonded golden sabers are the same and just as different in profile. HST also have 124 and 125 bullets.

Love shooting steel plates with 357auto. Even the far ones smack as soon as you squeeze the trigger. Theres a slight delay in 40 and more so in 45.


Isn't DKF's pic w/5 petals a 3918? The 4234s I have don't have 5 petals.

Correct.

So did they change the 3918s from a 5-petal to a 6-petal?

gatorboy
05-12-2011, 09:55
Sorry to add to your confusion. The boxes I have are 53972 and 54234 which appear to have identical bullets loaded in them. I think the 54234 is 25 FPS faster @ 1375.

RMD
05-12-2011, 10:32
Sorry to add to your confusion. The boxes I have are 53972 and 54234 which appear to have identical bullets loaded in them. I think the 54234 is 25 FPS faster @ 1375.

I'm easily confused, so no worries there.

I have some 3972s as well and they look just like 4234s. At least, I think they do...they all look the same to me :rollingeyes:

greyeyezz
05-12-2011, 11:41
Just checked my 4234's and 3918's and they both have 6 pedals.

RMD
05-12-2011, 11:54
So it sounds like everything is 6 petal now and the 5 petal was the old (maybe 9mm) design?

PghJim
05-12-2011, 16:53
I am currently carrying DT 125gr Seirra loads which go about 1,500fps out of my 4.5" G32. REDHAZE has posted some good picutes of what it looks like, but mine generally penetrate the third jug. If you are an "energy matters" person, this round is hard to beat. I have never seen anything except a full bore 10mm explode the first water jug like this round. It has been devastating on some small game I have shot with it.

I did a comparison test a little while back with this round and the 125gr SJHP Remington 357 Mag round from a 6" S&W. The penetration, fragmentation and expansion were almost identical.

Fred may have a point about pentration, but to me if it performs like the 125gr 357 mag, it cannot be all that bad. I have shot just about every 357sig round available and can tell you that the Winchester Ranger-T clogs with cloth when going through 4 layers of denim about 50% of the time. The HST's are not bad and never clog, I just wish they were a higher velocity. I like the 125gr GD, but generally will carry an old BB load at over 1,500fps.

I have found once you get above 1,400fps, nothing seems to clog the hollow point. I would be comfortable with just about any bullet except the Ranger-T.

1canvas
05-12-2011, 17:02
I am currently carrying DT 125gr Seirra loads which go about 1,500fps out of my 4.5" G32. REDHAZE has posted some good picutes of what it looks like, but mine generally penetrate the third jug. If you are an "energy matters" person, this round is hard to beat. I have never seen anything except a full bore 10mm explode the first water jug like this round. It has been devastating on some small game I have shot with it.

I did a comparison test a little while back with this round and the 125gr SJHP Remington 357 Mag round from a 6" S&W. The penetration, fragmentation and expansion were almost identical.

Fred may have a point about pentration, but to me if it performs like the 125gr 357 mag, it cannot be all that bad. I have shot just about every 357sig round available and can tell you that the Winchester Ranger-T clogs with cloth when going through 4 layers of denim about 50% of the time. The HST's are not bad and never clog, I just wish they were a higher velocity. I like the 125gr GD, but generally will carry an old BB load at over 1,500fps.

I have found once you get above 1,400fps, nothing seems to clog the hollow point. I would be comfortable with just about any bullet except the Ranger-T.

are these speeds out of a G32 advertised by DT or did you clock them yourself?

RMD
05-12-2011, 18:26
To satisfy my curiosity, I asked Speer. Here's what they said:

The current Engineering blueprints show 5 petals on the low penetration bullet (Cartridge Part 53918) and 6 petals on the other (Cartridge Part 54234). and

Part 53918 is our Speer 375 Sig 125gr GDHP load which is manufactured with a hollow point cavity profile which results in lower penetration. This load was designed at a government agency's request . Muzzle velocity of 1350 fps.and

Part 54234 Speer 357 Sig 125gr GDHP has a deeper HP cavity and is loaded to a muzzle velocity of 1375 fps.

Hokiegrass
05-12-2011, 20:27
I am currently carrying DT 125gr Seirra loads which go about 1,500fps out of my 4.5" G32. REDHAZE has posted some good picutes of what it looks like, but mine generally penetrate the third jug. If you are an "energy matters" person, this round is hard to beat. I have never seen anything except a full bore 10mm explode the first water jug like this round. It has been devastating on some small game I have shot with it.

I did a comparison test a little while back with this round and the 125gr SJHP Remington 357 Mag round from a 6" S&W. The penetration, fragmentation and expansion were almost identical.

Fred may have a point about pentration, but to me if it performs like the 125gr 357 mag, it cannot be all that bad. I have shot just about every 357sig round available and can tell you that the Winchester Ranger-T clogs with cloth when going through 4 layers of denim about 50% of the time. The HST's are not bad and never clog, I just wish they were a higher velocity. I like the 125gr GD, but generally will carry an old BB load at over 1,500fps.

I have found once you get above 1,400fps, nothing seems to clog the hollow point. I would be comfortable with just about any bullet except the Ranger-T.

Why are Ranger-t's so bad? To be honest I didn't do research on them and saw the ranger t for a good price and grabbed. Oh well, I have a hundred more rounds of range ammo now that I have three boxes of GD on the way...

PghJim
05-12-2011, 23:01
are these speeds out of a G32 advertised by DT or did you clock them yourself?

Clocked them myself with two different guns. Also, remember that I have a 4.5" barrel in my G32. In the past DT's velocities were a little overstated, at least by my testing. However, lately they have been pretty honest. I find that DT is developing into a good ammo manufacturer.

PghJim
05-12-2011, 23:05
Why are Ranger-t's so bad? To be honest I didn't do research on them and saw the ranger t for a good price and grabbed. Oh well, I have a hundred more rounds of range ammo now that I have three boxes of GD on the way...

When they expand they are a great round. It is only when I shoot them through 4 layers of denim that I have a problem. I have found this to be the case with a few Winchester rounds. They will probably serve you well. The 4-layer denim test is not kind to hollow points in general. This evening I tested some Ranger 9mm 115gr +p+ rounds and had one clog and not expand.

AWESOMO 4000
05-13-2011, 23:47
My favorite round! I have a P229R in .357SIG and a Glock 33. Personal favorite .357SIG load is the Cor Bon 125gr. Not the DPX, just the regular old JHP round. 1425fps advertised out of a 4" - and it runs real close to it. The closest to real 125gr .357 Magnum ballistics, and what the .357SIG was originally intended to do/be. Has noticeably more pop to it than the Ranger T/HST/Gold Dot, but nothing extreme; I honestly can't tell the difference with either of mine to their 9mm counterparts.

From shooting at wadded up wet stuff, it seemed to penetrate the most of the Gold Dots, Rangers, and HSTs I've tried. Also expands the largest. The HST was probably the smallest of the three. It might shed it's jacket or frag a bit, but big deal, they still work. You never really have to worry about a Cor Bon not expanding. I recovered one fired through an inch thick piece of tounge and groove board, and a 2ft pile of wet dirt. It expanded fully.


Any of those 4 - and pretty much any JHP .357 SIG - is going to work exceptionally well. I do like the HST because of it's ball-profile. Winchester looks impressive once expanded. Cor Bon still my favorite. A little extra pop never hurts either on an auto; helps to cycle it if it's limp-wristed, caked with dirt, mud, or God forbid, blood. :frown:

greyeyezz
05-14-2011, 07:13
Are the DT bullets the same as Corbon power jacket?

dkf
05-14-2011, 07:59
Took a pic showing the 5 petal vs 6 petal GD for the .357sig.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/SDV10/SpeerGD5petalvs6petallabeled.jpg

unit1069
05-14-2011, 08:15
Took a pic showing the 5 petal vs 6 petal GD for the .357sig.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/SDV10/SpeerGD5petalvs6petallabeled.jpg

Does anyone know which particular .357sig Gold Dot round the various LEO agencies issue?

RMD
05-14-2011, 09:09
Took a pic showing the 5 petal vs 6 petal GD for the .357sig.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/SDV10/SpeerGD5petalvs6petallabeled.jpg

Thanks for the pic. This jives with the info from Speer (3918 - 5 petal/lower velocity/lower penetration)

fredj338
05-14-2011, 09:29
Does anyone know which particular .357sig Gold Dot round the various LEO agencies issue?
Montana SP used to issue the 5 petal, that is what my trooper buddy gave me to get me to buy one. I don't know if they have since changed. That was about 4yrs ago.

cowboy1964
05-14-2011, 11:27
If you're limp wristing, all a little extra pop is going to do is lower the threshold at which a problem does occur.

Hokiegrass
05-14-2011, 16:43
As an aside, I took my g33 to the range for the first time last Thursday. Extremely fun to shoot. I bought it never having shot a .357 sig before. I figured that since my favorite round is a 9mm, I would like this because it is pretty much a magnum version of it. Anyhow, definitely a keeper for me. I enjoyed it a good bit more than the .40 round (which I got out of earlier in the year); I was able to attain quicker follow up shots with the .357 sig. To me, there seems to be less perceived recoil with the .357 sig compared to the .40, which I don't know if that is an actual truth or just a perceived thing by me. It feels like the recoil is quicker and more in a straight back manner than the muzzle flip I feel in a .40...

1canvas
05-14-2011, 16:54
I was able to attain quicker follow up shots with the .357 sig. To me, there seems to be less perceived recoil with the .357 sig compared to the .40, which I don't know if that is an actual truth or just a perceived thing by me. It feels like the recoil is quicker and more in a straight back manner than the muzzle flip I feel in a .40...

thats the same thing i thought when i first put a sig barrel in my 23. i was able to cut my groups nearly in half compared to the .40 also.

unit1069
05-14-2011, 17:12
I enjoyed it (.357sig) a good bit more than the .40 round (which I got out of earlier in the year); I was able to attain quicker follow up shots with the .357 sig. To me, there seems to be less perceived recoil with the .357 sig compared to the .40, which I don't know if that is an actual truth or just a perceived thing by me. It feels like the recoil is quicker and more in a straight back manner than the muzzle flip I feel in a .40...

I totally agree, as every .40S&W pistol I've shot produced more recoil and muzzle flip than my G-32.

RMD
05-14-2011, 18:35
...Extremely fun to shoot...

VERY!

...I bought it never having shot a .357 sig before. I figured that since my favorite round is a 9mm, I would like this because it is pretty much a magnum version of it. Anyhow, definitely a keeper for me...

Same here. Matter of fact, traded my beloved G19 for it (G32).

LT1coupe
05-14-2011, 19:23
That was my experience too, I got hooked on the little 27 & was pretty much set until I tried a 33. My groups & follow up shots improved.

cowboy1964
05-14-2011, 19:55
I wish y'all would shut up! I've been fighting off the urge to get a .357 Sig and I don't need all these positive reenforcements pushing me over the edge!

Hokiegrass
05-14-2011, 19:59
VERY!



Same here. Matter of fact, traded my beloved G19 for it (G32).

I see a gen 4 g32 in my future, when they come out...

Hokiegrass
05-14-2011, 20:00
I wish y'all would shut up! I've been fighting off the urge to get a .357 Sig and I don't need all these positive reenforcements pushing me over the edge!


Do it.................


















Do it now....................................:whistling::whistling:

LT1coupe
05-14-2011, 20:32
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1341254&highlight=.357+sig

RMD
05-15-2011, 07:00
That was my experience too, I got hooked on the little 27 & was pretty much set until I tried a 33. My groups & follow up shots improved.

A G33 is on my list too. That evil, evil list of Glocks I must get.

gatorboy
05-15-2011, 08:27
I see a gen 4 g32 in my future, when they come out...

I've got a Glock 32 barrel in my G4 23 and it's a great combo. Even less recoil than the previous generations. Looking for a Glock 31 barrel for my G4 22 now. Accoring to DT's #'s that will be good for a 75 fps velocity increase. Figure 60 fps increase with Speer Gold Dots will assure they'll be leaving the tube @ over 1400. Hog smack x 16.

LT1coupe
05-15-2011, 10:07
Hog smack x 16.

I grew up in S Tx & 357 Sig does pretty well on Feral Hogs when you don't have a rifle handy.

fredj338
05-15-2011, 10:08
I totally agree, as every .40S&W pistol I've shot produced more recoil and muzzle flip than my G-32.

Same for me. With the 40 bbl in my P239, there is more torque w/ full power loads, the 357sig is louder, but less torque, faster recoil recovery. Just got a G32, extra 40 bbl, we'll see if that stays the same.