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lookin4my1stglock
05-11-2011, 21:12
:steamed: ok here's my dilemma....I am new to pistol shooting (meaning I have shot maybe 10 rds in a pistol)....looking to buy my first pistol....and I am predominantly right handed in everything I do but found that I am left eye dominant. I shoot archery right handed and my left eye dominance messes with my accuracy. When learning how to shoot pistol (since handedness doesn't seem to matter in pistols as it does with bows), should I train left handed because of my left eye dominance or shoot right handed using my right eye? I am just curious as to what people think or suggest. Thanks for everyone's responses! :cool:

Shinesintx
05-11-2011, 21:14
Switch hands or aim right?

NickC50310
05-11-2011, 21:20
I have been shooting pistols for years. I am left handed when I write and eat but right handed for everything else (shooting, golf, hockey, throwing, etc.). I am left eye dominant. For the past 5+ years I have taught myself to aim with my right eye. I would have to close my left entirely. I took a handgun course a few weeks ago and the instructor determined that I am still left eye dominant. I was trying to aim with both eyes open and it just wasnt happening. My left eye was constantly taking over. So what I did was start aiming with my left eye and have my right eye either closed or squinting. My accuracy improved tremendously (it was good before but now its awesome).

My recomendation would be to NOT switch hands. That is going to be pretty detremental, especially if you have no other lefty tendencies. Just aim with your left eye when pistol shooting and use your right eye when going to a long gun. It has worked pretty well for me.

samurairabbi
05-11-2011, 21:21
Adopt an iscoseles stance (both arms extended) as your predominate shooting position. A minor shift in the actual direction of the gun in your hands can bring the sights into alignment with your dominant eye without major distortion of your grip, irrespective of whichever hand you use to pull the trigger. This can remedy 80% of your cross-dominance issues.

lookin4my1stglock
05-11-2011, 21:26
:yourock:Awesome awesome info guys, thank you very much!!:yourock:

Just1More
05-11-2011, 21:27
I'm right handed/left eye dominant and don't even think about it doing athletic activities. I shoot guns, bows, and pool just fine.

glockin-45
05-11-2011, 21:32
I'm like you. Depending on distance, you can shoot with both eyes open
for close range, or just close your right eye. No problem. It's to hard for
me to close left eye,it's not natural and there is no need for it with a handgun. Shotguns i can shoot fine. But Rifles i'm forced to shoot left
handed. Just shoot what ever style you feel comfortable with. Enjoy:wavey:

Teecher45
05-11-2011, 21:46
Same problem here. An instructor suggested squinting (ever so slightly) my left eye. Your right eye will take over but you will also still have (most of) your full vision. It isn't perfect but it's better for me, YMMV. Just try it, what have you got to lose?
This also works (again, for me) with my AR.

fnfalman
05-11-2011, 22:48
Take a piece of masking tape and tape over the shooting glass's lens of the dominant eye. That way you're forced to shoot with the other eye. After a while, it becomes a habit.

With a handgun, you can fudge the eye, but you can't do that on a rifle. Also, when you fudge the eye, your aim will always be off.

1glockfan23
05-11-2011, 22:56
I have the opposite problem, left-handed, right eye dominant. Thankfully, I joined the Army when I was 17 and they just switched me to shooting right-handed. Problem solved.

MinervaDoe
05-11-2011, 23:11
:steamed: ok here's my dilemma....I am new to pistol shooting (meaning I have shot maybe 10 rds in a pistol)....looking to buy my first pistol....and I am predominantly right handed in everything I do but found that I am left eye dominant.
You're going to find a lot of posers in the shooting community. You'll need to be become a good judge of that.

I've been shooting for forty six years.
I am a left eye dominant, right handed shooter.
When I shoot, I close my left eye.
It's not a problem.
It also gives me a tool to judge someone's ability to teach shooting. One instructor who I eventually judged to be a very poor teacher tried to force me to change. One instructor who I think is very good, said I should continue to shoot the way I am comfortable. He shoots the same way (left eye dominant, right handed guy who closes his left eye).

By all accounts, I shoot pretty well. http://www.madmumblings.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10514/Glock34a.jpg

I used to work with a guy who was one of the military's one in a thousand shooters. They used him as an instructor. He had to teach everybody the NRA method (with both eyes open). But, he said he actually shoots with one eye closed.

You should experiment a little and see what works for you.

GunFighter45ACP
05-12-2011, 09:56
Adopt an iscoseles stance (both arms extended) as your predominate shooting position. A minor shift in the actual direction of the gun in your hands can bring the sights into alignment with your dominant eye without major distortion of your grip, irrespective of whichever hand you use to pull the trigger. This can remedy 80% of your cross-dominance issues.

This is what I use. I'm left hand, right eye. For me, it's just a slight rotation of the wrists to bring the eye & sights into alignment. I'll use this type of aimed shooting for marksmanship training where your ring scores are important. For defensive shooting, I use a silhouette type target & use both eyes opened, 'flash sight picture', or point shooting ala' the Applegate Method for distances upto 21 feet.

Stubudd
05-12-2011, 10:07
I have the opposite problem, left-handed, right eye dominant. Thankfully, I joined the Army when I was 17 and they just switched me to shooting right-handed. Problem solved.

yea, well switching hands is about 100x easier than switching eyes

lefthanded never will feel right to me though i don't think- long guns are tolerable, but handguns are just too weird

it's a never-ending battle for me- i mean it's functional, but i guess i don't get to practice enough to ever really be comfortable

RMD
05-12-2011, 11:17
:steamed: ok here's my dilemma....I am new to pistol shooting (meaning I have shot maybe 10 rds in a pistol)....looking to buy my first pistol....and I am predominantly right handed in everything I do but found that I am left eye dominant. I shoot archery right handed and my left eye dominance messes with my accuracy. When learning how to shoot pistol (since handedness doesn't seem to matter in pistols as it does with bows), should I train left handed because of my left eye dominance or shoot right handed using my right eye? I am just curious as to what people think or suggest. Thanks for everyone's responses! :cool:

I'm right handed/left eye dominant as well and here's what works for me.

I use what I call the "Hickok45" stance. It's a Chapman/Modified Weaver, but I really pop my strong (right) shoulder up and draw my right arm to the left to align with the left eye (like Hickok45 does).

However, I shoot with both eyes open. I see two sight images, but my left eye's image is strong enough that it stands out quite a bit. The more I practice, the easier it gets.

This works for me and I shoot more accurately using this combo. YMMV.

buzzkill
05-12-2011, 11:39
I'm right handed/left eye dominant and don't even think about it doing athletic activities. I shoot guns, bows, and pool just fine.

Same Here!!

MinervaDoe
05-12-2011, 14:40
You see, you now have a staggering array of techniques that work for other people. Honestly, I think you'd do well to try the ones that make the most sense to you and see which ones feel good and / or work the best for you.

If somebody tells you that they have the single best technique in the world which you must use, I would encourage you to be skeptical. :supergrin:

lookin4my1stglock
05-12-2011, 14:53
This is fantastic everyone!!!! many different techniques to try when i finally make my purchase and get to the range to practice....Hope to see some of ya at the ranges!! Good luck and good shooting!

GlockinNJ
05-12-2011, 15:12
Another right hand/left eye guy here. There's no way I would think of switching hands, just way too comfortable with my right. I also don't plan to attempt to change my eye dominance - prefer to play the cards I was dealt. So, I usually close my right eye when I shoot and it seems to work fine.

This has been discussed before (recently) on GT and lots of guys advocate shooting with both eyes open and aligning your gun/sights with whatever eye dominates. I've tried it, but my eyes battle for dominance and I struggle to get a clear sight picture. When I close my right eye - boom - everything snaps into place. So, that's what I do.

Of course YMMV, but since you are a new shooter, you should read the posts about both eyes open shooting and see if that works for you.

Good luck!

zigzagg321
05-12-2011, 15:28
welcome to the club, you'll get used to it.

Teecher45
05-12-2011, 15:41
With a handgun, you can fudge the eye, but you can't do that on a rifle. Also, when you fudge the eye, your aim will always be off.
fnfalman, always, really? Works very well for me. Have you ever considered that everyone is different, and just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it may not work for someone else?

Cmacc
05-12-2011, 15:55
I have recently been wondering about the theory of shooting with both eyes open. It is a new concept to me. Is it generally thought to be a self defense tactic to retain your peripheral vision? I was initially taught to shoot, 35 years ago, on a rifle range at Boy Scout summer camp by a gentleman named Will (guess the joke). We were taught to close one eye and I've done it ever since.

I watched most of season 2 of Top Shot on the History Channel and noticed that Brian "Gunney" Zins, long time USMC Pistol Team member and 10 time NRA National Pistol Champion, aimed his pistol by closing one eye. Just wondering out loud.

RMD
05-12-2011, 16:38
I have recently been wondering about the theory of shooting with both eyes open. It is a new concept to me. Is it generally thought to be a self defense tactic to retain your peripheral vision? I was initially taught to shoot, 35 years ago, on a rifle range at Boy Scout summer camp by a gentleman named Will (guess the joke). We were taught to close one eye and I've done it ever since.

I watched most of season 2 of Top Shot on the History Channel and noticed that Brian "Gunney" Zins, long time USMC Pistol Team member and 10 time NRA National Pistol Champion, aimed his pistol by closing one eye. Just wondering out loud.

For some reason, I shoot better with both eyes open. It seems so counter-intuitive, but it seems to work. It's definitely not for everyone.

I do shoot long guns left handed and don't have any problems whatsoever.

GlockinNJ
05-12-2011, 17:58
I watched most of season 2 of Top Shot on the History Channel and noticed that Brian "Gunney" Zins, long time USMC Pistol Team member and 10 time NRA National Pistol Champion, aimed his pistol by closing one eye. Just wondering out loud.

Hmmm. If it's good enough for Zins, then it's good enough for me.

JBP55
05-12-2011, 18:44
I am left eye dominant and shoot with my right hand. Bad neck, shoulders and back make it difficult to adjust my shooting stance and use my left eye. I see double with both eyes open. I just use my right eye unless I am shooting left hand only and then use my left eye. It works for me. Do what works best for You.

MeefZah
05-12-2011, 21:57
I am also RH but left eye dominant.

I just go with it. I turn my head slightly to the right which puts my left eye closer to the gun and seems to facilitate accurate aiming with both eyes open.

Shooting rifles though I close my left eye and use my right.

BuckyP
05-13-2011, 06:11
I am left eye dominant right handed (pistol shooter). When I learned this, I just started shooting with both eyes open... at any distance. 3 years ago I switched to shooting long guns left handed because I wanted to shoot them with both eyes open as well, and by design it's much harder if your dominant eye isn't the one one the sights.

deguelo
05-15-2011, 15:54
I am also RH but left eye dominant.

I just go with it. I turn my head slightly to the right which puts my left eye closer to the gun and seems to facilitate accurate aiming with both eyes open.

Shooting rifles though I close my left eye and use my right.

same here. regards-- deguelo

NMG26
05-15-2011, 16:11
I close both eyes and let her rip! LOL






JK..






I'm left eye dom as well. For years I shot by closing my left eye. Just recently I have been keeping both eyes open and just adjusting the sight picture lettting the natural eye be the boss............seems to be working ok...........I'm still working on it as well.

Wyoming
05-16-2011, 21:17
If you only shot about ten rounds through a handgun so far in your life you are neither right or left yet.

I'm left handed and left eye so learned to shoot everthing left handed. I do practise shooting weak hand but prefer dominant left.

You have no bad habbits yet. You should shoot with BOTH eyes open and you SHOULD shoot with your better eye.

If I were you I would learn to shoot left eye/handed now. After you done that and feel comfortable in a few years you can start shooting right handed. You will always be a left handed shooter but you will be one hell of a weak hand shooter!

I have ran into a lot of right handed shooter that are left eye. No one was there for them when they started shooting so learn wrong. (If I were to take some one shooting for the first time I check to see which eye dominated).

When I do run into right hand/ left eye I let them shoot one of my left hand guns and they are surprised at how well they did.

Remember,

YOU CAN ONLY SHOOT AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE.

vista461
05-17-2011, 00:31
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. When shooting a handgun, i just move it over a bit and use my left eye. Long guns I end up closing my left normally.

fnfalman
05-17-2011, 08:51
fnfalman, always, really? Works very well for me. Have you ever considered that everyone is different, and just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it may not work for someone else?

Okay, so you're left eye dominant and right hand or right eye dominant and left hand.

How do you crane your neck over the top of the riflestock to get your eye to the rear sight?

Really? Show me.

As far as shooting a handgun goes, sure, you can fudge it a bit, crane the gun this way, tweak the shoulder that way, crank the head the other way. However, since that the habit can be easily trained via covering up the dominant eye with some tapes, why not do it right?

lightsareout
05-17-2011, 10:06
My dad and brother are right handed and left eye dominate, they both shoot left handed with right handed guns.

Brucev
05-17-2011, 10:37
:steamed: ok here's my dilemma....I am new to pistol shooting (meaning I have shot maybe 10 rds in a pistol)....looking to buy my first pistol....and I am predominantly right handed in everything I do but found that I am left eye dominant. I shoot archery right handed and my left eye dominance messes with my accuracy. When learning how to shoot pistol (since handedness doesn't seem to matter in pistols as it does with bows), should I train left handed because of my left eye dominance or shoot right handed using my right eye? I am just curious as to what people think or suggest. Thanks for everyone's responses! :cool:

I am right handed. My left eye is dominate. I have been shooting handguns since 1979. It doesn't matter. Just use the left eye for aiming. Never been a problem. JMHO.

SiberianErik
05-17-2011, 12:29
I am also RH but left eye dominant.

I just go with it. I turn my head slightly to the right which puts my left eye closer to the gun and seems to facilitate accurate aiming with both eyes open.

Shooting rifles though I close my left eye and use my right.


Same here :wavey: I just move my two handed grip to the left instead of cocking my neck to the left. In a fast draw situation, it would be hard to angle your neck in a hurry vs making the slight angle change w/your wrists. I tried to shoot w/both eyes open but cannot master it.. Hickok 45 you will notice is LE Dom and shoots right handed. he tends to xock his neck slightly to the left though..

As you see it a common prob and you will have to adapt to "what works for you and you only"

dosei
05-17-2011, 13:14
The nice thing about handguns...lots of options for cross-dominant people like me (right-hand, left-eye).

For starters, you could shoot right handed & left eyed (one eye open or both eyes open)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/dosei/Right-handedLeft-eyeedCross-Dom.jpg
(No, this is not me...)

You could close your dominate eye and use your weak eye.

You could shoot left-handed.

I learned to shoot before I (or my Dad/brother that taught me to shoot) knew anything about eye-dominance. They told me to close my left eye...so I did (we also didn't know about shooting with both eyes open). I never had a problem shooting. When I learned about the concept of shooting with both eyes open, I tried it and found it impossible. Over 30 years of shooting with my "weak" eye left me with 2 dominant eyes. I shoot rifles/shotguns/bows right-handed and right eye (left closed). With handguns...it depends. Right-handed I favor using my right eye but sometimes use the left. Left-handed I use my left eye.

MJB
05-17-2011, 17:56
I'm 20/200 in my right eye (amblyopia) and am right handed.

I shoot handguns right handed and shoot long guns left handed.

NewGlockShooter
05-17-2011, 18:07
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I shoot with different stances, but always keep my right eye closed. Isosclese is easiest since I don't have to tilt my head, but a modified weaver feels more natural to me, even if I have to tilt my head really far to the right to aim. I am just as accurate with either stance... or innaccurate, depending on your assessment of my shooting.

When I shoot my rifle, I shoot right handed, close my left eye and let my scope do all the work.

IMHO, I'd say work on perfecting what feels best to you. Why fight your natural tendancies?

BBJones
05-17-2011, 18:14
I am left eye dominant right handed (pistol shooter). When I learned this, I just started shooting with both eyes open... at any distance. 3 years ago I switched to shooting long guns left handed because I wanted to shoot them with both eyes open as well, and by design it's much harder if your dominant eye isn't the one one the sights.


+1. I am RH Left eye dominant. I shoot everything with both eyes open. I shoot pistols RH and long guns LH. I prefer both eyes open to increase peripheral vision, allow for easier movement while shooting, reduce tunnel vision, and most importantly to avoid eye strain caused by prolonged closing of one eye.

Judge Roy Bean
05-18-2011, 05:38
Team Glock shooter, Dave Sevigny, is cross eye dominant and it doesn't seem to affect his shooting too bad.

When I started shooting, I noticed that I was also cross eye dominant. I believe this was due to my right eye being injured as a kid.

I was bummed, thinking I would never be able to shoot well. But, then I found out one of the best shooters in the business shares this affliction. I have recently been watching his youtube videos and trying to mimick his stance. Hope this helps OP.

F_G
05-18-2011, 05:51
I'm right handed, left eye dominate. I shoot pistols right handed, left eyed and I shoot rifles and shotguns left handed, left eyed. I hunt, used to shoot competetively and this has worked great for me for 40 years. Not sure why shooting a pistol right handed, left eyed would affect accuracy as someone stated earlier.........sight alignment is sight alignment, doesn't matter which eye you use.

fnfalman
05-18-2011, 08:23
I'm right handed, left eye dominate. I shoot pistols right handed, left eyed and I shoot rifles and shotguns left handed, left eyed. I hunt, used to shoot competetively and this has worked great for me for 40 years. Not sure why shooting a pistol right handed, left eyed would affect accuracy as someone stated earlier.........sight alignment is sight alignment, doesn't matter which eye you use.


Accuracy is not affected. Accuracy is what it is.

HOWEVER, points of impacts can be affected because you don't have your eyes directly behind the sights. Naturally, this can be compensated by adjusting the sights unless the problem is so big that you'd run out of sight adjustment.

Since that this issue is easily resolvable by simple training technique (ie taping over the dominant eye), why not do it? Why not get it so that you would use the same eye to aim when you shoot handgun, rifle and shotgun?

acpd442
05-18-2011, 13:34
I am right handed but left eye dominant also. It drives my firearms instructors with my agency nuts. I shoot pistol right handed but shotgun left handed. The vision in my right eye is marginal at best but it has been this way all my life. I don't need glasses to see when both eyes are open (20/20). The docs say my brain has just gotten used to using my left eye for clear and distant vision while my right eye picks up the rest. I can actually see colors better with my right eye.

Apetrulis01
05-18-2011, 18:21
Ok, I am right handed/left eye domiant and here is what I do. First, I use the iscoseles stance. Both arms are locked out. Now, the correct way to hold your hand gun is the gun should be straight down your forearm. Well, if you do that your left domiant eye can not pick up the sights.

So.....slightly cant your gun to the left, your domiant eye will pick it up, you are not turning your head a funky way, and you are still assuming the correct iscoseles stance. Works for me.

Adam

F_G
05-22-2011, 19:07
Accuracy is not affected. Accuracy is what it is.

HOWEVER, points of impacts can be affected because you don't have your eyes directly behind the sights. Naturally, this can be compensated by adjusting the sights unless the problem is so big that you'd run out of sight adjustment.

Since that this issue is easily resolvable by simple training technique (ie taping over the dominant eye), why not do it? Why not get it so that you would use the same eye to aim when you shoot handgun, rifle and shotgun?
I prefer to go with nature, I'm guessing you are right eyed dominate and shoot right handed, or vice-a-versa. Honestly, with just a slight adjustment of my head the sights are aligned perfectly, no need to adjust sights to point of impact. Besides, I have developed exceptional trigger control left or right handed, and while I can shoot left or right eyed, it just feels more natural left eyed.

wayno
05-23-2012, 17:57
Me too, But never seems to bother shooting 1911??????


wayno
Tapatalk

TNGlockman
05-23-2012, 18:07
I'm pretty sure that Hickock45 is a left eye dominant, right-handed shooter. It doesn't seem to affect him at all. Just do a search for him on youtube...

ithaca_deerslayer
05-23-2012, 18:28
You see, you now have a staggering array of techniques that work for other people. Honestly, I think you'd do well to try the ones that make the most sense to you and see which ones feel good and / or work the best for you.

If somebody tells you that they have the single best technique in the world which you must use, I would encourage you to be skeptical. :supergrin:

Correct.

My wife shoots right handed, using her left eye. She uses a modified Weaver. No big deal, she shoots better than most men and is an NRA instructor.

Doesn't really matter which eye you use, a handgun will line up easy to either :)

Comedian
05-24-2012, 06:19
Im left eye dominant and right handed too. I close my right eye and when i see the sights lined up, i fire the pistol. Simple as that.

pat701
05-24-2012, 15:33
I have same problem. I shot long guns left handed for about 6 years.

Jon_R
05-25-2012, 11:28
There are a lot of people right handed and left eye dominant at our pistol matches. They look a little awkward but get along just fine. If using a stance where your chest is straight at the target drop your left (instead of your right) foot back 4-6 inches and it will pull the gun in better alignment with your left eye.

A couple months ago I came across my first left handed right eye dominant shooter. That was odd....

I am left handed left eyed but can do pistol left or right handed does not matter much to me. Long guns right handed feels very awkward.

wayno
06-03-2012, 20:24
There are a lot of people right handed and left eye dominant at our pistol matches. They look a little awkward but get along just fine. If using a stance where your chest is straight at the target drop your left (instead of your right) foot back 4-6 inches and it will pull the gun in better alignment with your left eye.

A couple months ago I came across my first left handed right eye dominant shooter. That was odd....

I am left handed left eyed but can do pistol left or right handed does not matter much to me. Long guns right handed feels very awkward.

Thanks for the info


wayno
Tapatalk

MississipVol
06-03-2012, 22:45
Okay, so you're left eye dominant and right hand or right eye dominant and left hand.

How do you crane your neck over the top of the riflestock to get your eye to the rear sight?

Really? Show me.

As far as shooting a handgun goes, sure, you can fudge it a bit, crane the gun this way, tweak the shoulder that way, crank the head the other way. However, since that the habit can be easily trained via covering up the dominant eye with some tapes, why not do it right?

You mentioned this twice already but I can;t see how this would work with someone who is truly dominant in one eye.

When I try what you suggest, and line up my shot using only my right eye and my left eye shut prior to engaging the target, then I still wind up lining up the target with my right, non-dominant eye several inches right of the target.

I think ay my age (41) my right eye has become ineffective at accurately lining up distant targets so I can only do this with my left. Therefore, I shoot pistols right-handed, but close or squint my right eye to acquire the target. However, with long guns I shoot off my left shoulder. In my experience, I can't see how someone could be accurate any other way but maybe I am just old or not doing something right! :dunno:

byf43
06-04-2012, 11:52
I am right-handed and right-eye dominant, however, my right eye was scratched BADLY, 14 years ago.

I just recently got a new prescription for my glasses, and these lenses look promising.

However, here is how I have been shooting for the last 14 years: (Not me in the pic!)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/byf43/WeaverStance.jpg

Notice how the head is tilted slightly?? (The shooter in the pic, is also tilting the pistol, too. Shouldn't do that!)
Pistol control is with right hand. Left eye is 'driving' the pistol and the sights.

Bren
06-04-2012, 12:00
This thread reminds me - I recently had my first experience training female soldiers. One of them was shooting right handed but couldn't hit anything. She claimed she couldn't even look through the rear sight and see the front sight. It got to the point where she was crying...apparently they do that.

I checked her eye dominance and she was left eye dominant. I said, "Ok, so your left eye is dominant but you are right handed, so..."... "No drill sergeant, I'm left handed" ... "so why the *^%$^* are you shooting right handed?" ... "It looked more comfortable, drill sergeant." Shooting left handed, she zeroed and qualified. I suspect she's going into the "intelligence" field.

rilkil23
06-04-2012, 12:24
Same here. I was told to simply rotate the pistol to 11 oclock to align with my left eye as a right handed shooter. I enjoy shooting but don't claim to be Dead Eye Dick.