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tongix
05-22-2011, 10:10
Pres Obama just emphasized hard before the AIPAC audience this will be the lasting peace everyone should work for. If he does achieve this, his second term might be sealed . The man is a genius , a notch above Pres Clinton.

wavetrain75
05-22-2011, 10:16
:rofl:

Mushinto
05-22-2011, 11:38
If he does achieve this

???

Spit out the Kool-aid son it's not about him.

G33
05-22-2011, 12:05
Obama plans to revert the US to the original 13 colonies borders.
:rofl::rofl:

JFrame
05-22-2011, 12:08
Okay -- the OP is an Onion/Scrappleface knock-off...Correct?


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geminicricket
05-22-2011, 12:11
So, if the head of state of one bankrupt country tells the head of state of another, not bankrupt, country to declare unilateral surrender, we're supposed to think anyone takes him seriously?

A very senior person in the Administration proposed several years ago that peace could be achieved if we (USA) would spend trillions (Capital T, back then) to establish the Palestinians with a peer-level military vis Israel. Smantha Power, aka Mrs. Cass Sunstein, if you're curious.

That, I take seriously.

vram74
05-22-2011, 12:17
Does anyone seriously think that if it was our country in this situation that we'd give up land to appease someone else? Israel is there and the rest of the world needs to accept it and move on.

Smashy
05-22-2011, 12:19
Does anyone seriously think that if it was our country in this situation that we'd give up land to appease someone else?





Well, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama made the offer.

TBO
05-22-2011, 12:21
It's still, sadly, amateur hour.

El_Ron1
05-22-2011, 13:09
Obama plans to revert the US to the original 13 colonies borders.
:rofl::rofl:

Slavery!

:woohoo:

Jake Starr
05-22-2011, 13:15
If the op is serious he is even dumber than Obama...and that's saying something.

MtBaldy
05-22-2011, 13:17
Okay -- the OP is an Onion/Scrappleface knock-off...Correct?



Nope, pretty sure he's serious. What that says about his intelligence/sanity TOS prevent me from saying

JFrame
05-22-2011, 13:21
Nope, pretty sure he's serious. What that says about his intelligence/sanity TOS prevent me from saying


That is simply amazing... :shocked:

S/he's gotta be a provocateur sent over from Organizing for America or Moveon.org just to stir the pot...I find it incomprehensible that anyone could actually be that stupid...


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american lockpicker
05-22-2011, 13:24
WTF is he thinking.

Jake Starr
05-22-2011, 13:32
This sums it up....

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

MtBaldy
05-22-2011, 13:38
This sums it up....

I've said the essentially the same thing. To fix it we need to limit the vote to people who have proved they are intelligent enough, educated enough, and involved enough to make sound decisions about who should run our country. Mandating everyone over a certain age has the right to vote was like openning Pandora's Box. Once you give the parasite class the vote there is no viable way to take it from without the use of force. We now have most Americans getting some form of federal aid so the chance the voters are going to turn out the politicians who give them bread and circuses is just about nil.

Cali-Glock
05-22-2011, 13:48
Does anyone seriously think that if it was our country in this situation that we'd give up land to appease someone else? Israel is there and the rest of the world needs to accept it and move on.

The other middle east countries and those of the ilk of Obama will not be happy until Israel is pushed into the sea. (The elimination of Israel and retaking every inch of Israel is part of the Charter of the so-called non-country of Palestine.)

just a shooter
05-22-2011, 13:49
I've said the essentially the same thing. To fix it we need to limit the vote to people who have proved they are intelligent enough, educated enough, and involved enough to make sound decisions about who should run our country. Mandating everyone over a certain age has the right to vote was like openning Pandora's Box. Once you give the parasite class the vote there is no viable way to take it from without the use of force. We now have most Americans getting some form of federal aid so the chance the voters are going to turn out the politicians who give them bread and circuses is just about nil.

just goes to show what 60 years of liberal indoctrination in public schools can achieve.:upeyes:

edit, I am agreeing with you, I'm talking about those dumb enough to vote for the socialist destroyer.

JFrame
05-22-2011, 13:51
just goes to show what 60 years of liberal indoctrination in public schools can achieve.:upeyes:

edit, I am agreeing with you, I'm talking about those dumb enough to vote for the socialist destroyer.


I suppose indoctrination into a rigid and inflexible leftist ideology could be indistinguishable from stupidity...


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AZson
05-22-2011, 13:54
How can there be any peace when all the Palestinians want to do is kill the Israelis?
Giving them this land would just make it easier for the Arabs to attack them.
Obamanation is an idiot and an embarrassment.
I still think Oprah bought and paid his way into the white house.
How else could some unknown guy with no back ground become president?

Jake Starr
05-22-2011, 13:54
The other middle east countries and those of the ilk of Obama will not be happy until Israel is pushed into the sea. (The elimination of Israel and retaking every inch of Israel is part of the Charter of the so-called non-country of Palestine.)


I don't understand why people can't comprehend this fact. Borders or no borders, Palestinian state or not, many over there and here, will not be happy until Israel ceases to exist.

Guess who's corner I am in....:israelflag:

tongix
05-22-2011, 16:17
The Talmud says, Be kind to others as you want others do to you. Praise be to God Almighty.
Koran says, Allah o Akbar.
Bible Says, Love your neighbor as you love God. If you love the least of these, you are the children of God.

clipper100
05-22-2011, 16:18
Zogby Poll... after this BS speach:

75% of American Jews ... Will vote for Barry in 2012.

You figure...

tongix
05-22-2011, 16:25
Obama was looking serious speaking before this influential Jewish lobby group. He knew he wants their supprt when election cometh. The man is postioning himself to be the two term Black president, quite smart.... that of course will depend if the US Jews take the bait.

ATL Peach Girl
05-22-2011, 16:28
That is simply amazing... :shocked:

S/he's gotta be a provocateur sent over from Organizing for America or Moveon.org just to stir the pot...I find it incomprehensible that anyone could actually be that stupid...


. by the way JFrame.......your avatar pic is just the funniest one here on GT!! :rofl:

clipper100
05-22-2011, 16:29
Obama was looking serious speaking before this influential Jewish lobby group. He knew he wants their supprt when election cometh. The man is postioning himself to be the two term Black president, quite smart.... that of course will depend if the US Jews take the bait.

You meant black-muslim... Didn't you?

Gallium
05-22-2011, 16:55
Nope, pretty sure he's serious. What that says about his intelligence/sanity TOS prevent me from saying

The TOS specifically prohibits you from calling his a lush, an idiot, a mouthbreather, a rabble rouser; in possession of an IQ approaching the maximum number of days in a month.

Using any of those terms would cause dis-favorable scrutiny on yourself from the moderators. No matter how bad the itch, don't lower yourself to trading insults with other forum members.

'Drew

kenpoprofessor
05-22-2011, 16:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k2hZ6SlSqq0#at=19

This kinda explains the situation very succinctly.

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde

glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 17:04
Obama needs to stay out of Israels business.

railfancwb
05-22-2011, 17:05
Obama plans to revert the US to the original 13 colonies borders.
:rofl::rofl:

A friendly suggestion from a long time ally concerning the US problem with illegal immigration:

http://bigpeace.com/dfriedman/2011/05/20/netanyahu-urges-u-s-return-to-1845-borders/

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 17:08
Geez glock_19guy1983, take that down. That is the kind of post that can get you a visit and get this forum shut down.

SouthpawShootr
05-22-2011, 17:15
Pres Obama just emphasized hard before the AIPAC audience this will be the lasting peace everyone should work for. If he does achieve this, his second term might be sealed . The man is a genius , a notch above Pres Clinton.

Yeah, and it not half a day day passed before the Israeli Prime Minister (I can't spell his last name right without looking it up) called Hillary Clinton up and had a heated conversation with her. I'll bet the gist of it was "no effin' way" in diplomatic terms followed by "has he completely wigged out?" Obama had his final answer to that before the PM even entered the country. It ain't going to happen.

DNA
05-22-2011, 17:19
I don't get why the Israelis should give up on inch of ground. The Palestinians started the war with the intent of destroying Israel, and then recruited the help of many other Arab nations, and then had their asses handed to them. Sounds to me like sour grapes.

Sorry to say, but it'd be akin to handing back the Pacific SW to Mexico because it used to belong to them... but even then, this would be more likely, as we started that war.

Dan

JFrame
05-22-2011, 17:41
by the way JFrame.......your avatar pic is just the funniest one here on GT!! :rofl:


Thank you! I live by the philosophy that a picture is worth a thousand words... :supergrin:


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JFrame
05-22-2011, 17:44
The TOS specifically prohibits you from calling his a lush, an idiot, a mouthbreather, a rabble rouser; in possession of an IQ approaching the maximum number of days in a month.

Using any of those terms would cause dis-favorable scrutiny on yourself from the moderators. No matter how bad the itch, don't lower yourself to trading insults with other forum members.

'Drew


Oops -- given what you just said, perhaps I should edit my comment where I suggest that the sort of person to whom you might be referring is dumber than dog dirt...? :dunno:


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glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 17:45
Geez glock_19guy1983, take that down. That is the kind of post that can get you a visit and get this forum shut down.

.....;) Yeah i forgot about the secret service harrassing that kid over a face book post. Its a shame that the 1st amendment no longer applies to political oppinions...unless you are a democrat anyways.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 17:47
.....;) Yeah i forgot about the secret service harrassing that kid over a face book post. Its a shame that the 1st amendment no longer applies to political oppinions...unless you are a democrat anyways.

Lets be honest, no matter how you feel about someone, the 1st has never covered threats.

glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 17:52
Lets be honest, no matter how you feel about someone, the 1st has never covered threats.

wasnt a threat. I simply said the israelis need to tell barry to stay out of their business. He is not looking to their best interests. He was and I believe still is a muslim. His people want to destroy Israel.

Gray_Rider
05-22-2011, 17:59
DVD (Don't vote Democrat) But no one listens and we have this sillyness every few administrations. Sadly, American Jews vote liberalism over loyalty to Israel EVERY TIME. :steamed::crying:I am not a Jew but I would pick up a rifle and stand with them if they were facing the world alone. God made them some serious promises, and they are STILL "the apple of God's eye". This old Confederate says we had better STOP stabbing them in the back (regardless of who holds the Whitehouse) and deal with their enemies as we should have done decades ago.

*Rant off

Gray_Rider
Deo Vindice!

"Three hundred thousand Yankees is stiff in Southern dust:
We got three hundred thousand before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever, and Southern steel and shot,
I wish there was three million instead of what we got."

From "The Unreconstructed Rebel"
Found in an old Confederate soldier's Bible.

P.S. The Jews stood with the Confederacy to the bitter sad end and Jews were amongst the final soldiers in gray to die for our country.


(Sorry skinheads, the "Southern Cross" just doesn't fit your pistol or your cause, but you do have the uninformed fooled pretty good!)

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 17:59
wasnt a threat. I simply said the israelis need to tell barry to stay out of their business. He is not looking to their best interests. He was and I believe still is a muslim. His people want to destroy Israel.

I read it. It could be considered a threat. Because you say it isnt might not be enough to stop unpleasant consequences.

You simply dont wish harm on the POTUS. Even by proxy.

vikingsoftpaw
05-22-2011, 18:07
Zogby Poll... after this BS speach:

75% of American Jews ... Will vote for Barry in 2012.

You figure...


It is a paradox.

The vast majority of American Jew are liberals.
Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
Most liberals view Biblical events as a myth.
Therefore the Jewish homeland is also a myth.

American Jews will vote for 'The One' again to demonstrate
to thew rest of us how they have thrown off the chains of
racism, bigotry and close mindedness.

They are willing to sacrifice the only democratic state in the
middle east, their religious homeland just to prove it.

One could say this is the ultimate expression of a Self-Loathing Jew.

Ahmid
05-22-2011, 18:19
Zogby Poll... after this BS speach:

75% of American Jews ... Will vote for Barry in 2012.

You figure...

I don't believe this one bit. I believe Zogby has Arab blood in him.
Oh yes, some will say what has that got to do with the price of eggs.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 18:20
It is a paradox.

The vast majority of American Jew are liberals.
Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
Most liberals view Biblical events as a myth.
Therefore the Jewish homeland is also a myth.

American Jews will vote for 'The One' again to demonstrate
to thew rest of us how they have thrown off the chains of
racism, bigotry and close mindedness.

They are willing to sacrifice the only democratic state in the
middle east, their religious homeland just to prove it.

One could say this is the ultimate expression of a Self-Loathing Jew.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/office_space_kit_mat.jpg

I understand you are trying to figure it out but you make some pretty far fetched leaps.

If you want some real simple (and broad) reasons why (mostly secular) Jews vote the way they do, liberal.

1. It is a habit. There was a time, not that long ago, the "Democrats" did a lot of things seen as good. "Liberal" used to mean a social issue far more than the insane socialistic economic issue it has morphed into. Most of us would vote for the likes of a JFK today (he is more "conservative" than a lot of the RINOs we have)

2. Just like the "left" has been (seen as) taken over by some outlandish economic policy folks, the "Right" has been (seen as) taken over by some outlandish moralising fundamental Christians. Do you think that would be very appealing to Jews?


So, you have a Left that is for liberal social policy (which a lot of Jews, and all other kinds of people like) and is for some downright communistic economic policies (which a lot of people, even Jews dont like.)

And you have a Right that is for some reasonable economic policies (that a lot of people, including Jews do like) and some anachronistic desire to have moralistic legislation, often Christian centered. (which a lot of Jews, and all kinds of other people DONT like. )

So, just like so many people here bich about....(Libertarian) they would love some fiscal conservatism and social liberalism. Be tight with the money and let me be free. Seriously, a lot of us like the sound of that.

So, when it comes time to vote, a lot of us hold our noses and vote Republican. Well guess what, a lot of Jews hold their noses and vote Democrat. Considering all the Jewish people have been through, I dont blame them for wanting to ensure social liberalism.

It is not that hard to understand. It is just not the result many of us would like.

It should also be noted, that as a trend, ( a slow one but a trend all the same) Jews are voting more conservative and Religious Jews (very few of them) tend to trend conservative as a whole.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 18:28
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Most liberal in actually take a dim view of democracy.
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Just as a technical note....most people, if they really understood what a democracy is (we are not one and the founders whole mission was to make sure we were NOT one) they would take a dim view of it as well.

There is an old expression that sums it up far better than I can. They say Benjamin Franklin said it but that is contested.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"

GTFord1
05-22-2011, 18:30
I'd be pretty happy if we had zero interaction with anyone in the region, including Israel. I don't give a damn about their borders, not my business. I don't care if Israel eradicates their neighbors, or vice versa. Tardbama should worry about more important things.

glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 18:33
. It is a habit. There was a time, not that long ago, the "Democrats" did a lot of things seen as good.

I really cant buy that. There was a time not that long ago when almost all southern white males voted democrat too. We broke that habit pretty quickly.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 18:39
I really cant buy that. There was a time not that long ago when almost all southern white males voted democrat too. We broke that habit pretty quickly.

Not true at all. You are missing something called a "demographic shift."

For one, plenty of "white males" still vote democrat....and, it is pretty much still the same kinds of "white males" (farmers, labor, union workers...) So you didnt break any habit. What did happen is "white males" started to shift from "Farmers, Labor, union workers..." to more white collar work, which tends to vote more conservative.

glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 18:49
Not true at all. You are missing something called a "demographic shift."

For one, plenty of "white males" still vote democrat....and, it is pretty much still the same kinds of "white males" (farmers, labor, union workers...) So you didnt break any habit. What did happen is "white males" started to shift from "Farmers, Labor, union workers..." to more white collar work, which tends to vote more conservative.

I cant speak for other areas of the south but for my little corner of heaven it is Mostly sweet potato farmers and cattle ranchers. There is very little industry here. What is here is non union. I grew up raising cattle and watching my dad vote republican. Most of my friends are either farmers or blue collar workers. Most everyone is a sportsman here and they ALL vote conservative on a national level. Some of the local elections sherrif, mayor, aldermen, and county supervisors people still vote democrat but thats because they know the person and even still the ones that run democrat in the local elections vote republican in the national ones.

Ahmid
05-22-2011, 18:51
P.S. The Jews stood with the Confederacy to the bitter sad end and Jews were amongst the final soldiers in gray to die for our country.


(Sorry skinheads, the "Southern Cross" just doesn't fit your pistol or your cause, but you do have the uninformed fooled pretty good!)[/QUOTE]

A lot of folks do not know that fact. I heard that they were some of the high ranking officers in the CSA.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 18:51
I cant speak for other areas of the south but for my little corner of heaven it is Mostly sweet potato farmers and cattle ranchers. There is very little industry here. What is here is non union. I grew up raising cattle and watching my dad vote republican. Most of my friends are either farmers or blue collar workers. Most everyone is a sportsman here and they ALL vote conservative on a national level. Some of the local elections sherrif, mayor, aldermen, and county supervisors people still vote democrat but thats because they know the person and even still the ones that run democrat in the local elections vote republican in the national ones.

An anecdote doesnt change the math.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 18:53
P.S. The Jews stood with the Confederacy to the bitter sad end and Jews were amongst the final soldiers in gray to die for our country.


(Sorry skinheads, the "Southern Cross" just doesn't fit your pistol or your cause, but you do have the uninformed fooled pretty good!)

A lot of folks do not know that fact. I heard that they were some of the high ranking officers in the CSA.

The (a) Secretary of State of the Confederacy was Jewish.

Mister_Beefy
05-22-2011, 18:57
we have double digit unemployment, a govt that's about to go bankrupt and gas over $4 a gallon, and barry is trying to play statesman in the middle east.

reminds me of clinton. tried and failed to be "the one" that achieved peace in the middle east, and failed. meanwhile he was busy screwing the help and allowing genocide to happen.

democratic foreign policy.

we will be in a world war by 2017.

glock_19guy1983
05-22-2011, 19:00
The (a) Secretary of State of the Confederacy was Jewish.

You sir are correct. His name was Judah Benjamin.

MtBaldy
05-22-2011, 20:33
The TOS specifically prohibits you from calling his a lush, an idiot, a mouthbreather, a rabble rouser; in possession of an IQ approaching the maximum number of days in a month.

Using any of those terms would cause dis-favorable scrutiny on yourself from the moderators. No matter how bad the itch, don't lower yourself to trading insults with other forum members.

'Drew

Well, thank you Mr. Drew. I'll take it under advisement.

Jowens
05-22-2011, 20:36
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?KiIe--7yBR-eH60S8

tongix
05-22-2011, 20:41
We all who runs this country, so theres no shortage of private cash from the AIPAC supporters. Obama has to sound tough and good and let them hear what they wanna hear. I dont know what Rabbi will say about this .

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we have double digit unemployment, a govt that's about to go bankrupt and gas over $4 a gallon, and barry is trying to play statesman in the middle east.

reminds me of clinton. tried and failed to be "the one" that achieved peace in the middle east, and failed. meanwhile he was busy screwing the help and allowing genocide to happen.

democratic foreign policy.

we will be in a world war by 2017.

highfructosecornsyrp
05-22-2011, 20:51
This sums it up....

There was not a shred of information in what you listed as "summing it up" you realize?

I could post that and fill in the Obama with literally any leader from any time period and it would carry the same weight as what you have there.

The only thing we have to worry about in this country is authoritarianism. Literally every single war that has ever happened in the history of mankind was started by an authoritarian and finished by a coalition against an authoritarian.

Read conservatives without conscience by John Dean for more information on this. He was the guy who cracked the Watergate Scandal.

When you are willing to parrot the ideas of your handlers (as I have just pointed out that you have done) without second guessing their merit or looking for actual facts to back them up, you are exhibiting the fundamental characteristic of an authoritarian. That is the only threat this country, and humanity itself, has ever faced...people who follow without thinking for their self.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 21:01
We all who runs this country, so theres no shortage of private cash from the AIPAC supporters. Obama has to sound tough and good and let them hear what they wanna hear. I dont know what Rabbi will say about this .

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I will say that you are wrong...why, because the math says so.

Yep, as a people, per capita, Jews have more than anything else in the country. They have more money, more education and a disproportionately high number of people in high office. That is truth.

However even with all of that, Jews are about 2% of the population. What people dont often understand is the difference between "per capita" and "absolute"

In absolute terms, White Christians still have magnitudes of order more power and wealth in this country than Jews do. It isnt even close.

Lets do the math in a simple way.

If you have 10 Jews and each Jew has 100 dollars.

You have 100 white Christians and each one has 50 dollars.

Per capita, the Jews have double the money of white Christians. In absolute terms, white Christans have 5 times the wealth of the Jews.

In the real world the actual number of absolute wealth that white Christians have is stageringly higher than "5" times.

highfructosecornsyrp
05-22-2011, 21:03
we have double digit unemployment, a govt that's about to go bankrupt and gas over $4 a gallon, and barry is trying to play statesman in the middle east.

reminds me of clinton. tried and failed to be "the one" that achieved peace in the middle east, and failed. meanwhile he was busy screwing the help and allowing genocide to happen.

democratic foreign policy.

we will be in a world war by 2017.

Unemployment is 9% (not double digits http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate), the country would actually have a 200 billion dollar surplus had the Bush Tax Cuts and Iraq war never happened (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55354.html), gas is less than 4 dollars per gallon on average (http://fuelgaugereport.aaa.com/?redirectto=http://fuelgaugereport.opisnet.com/index.asp), and the president is acting like a good president, attempting to stabilize the middle east thus improving our economy.

Did you want Clinton to NOT try to stabilize the middle east? "Clinton presided over the continuation of the longest period of peacetime economic expansion in American history" all while getting some beej on the side. I'd say that is good times. As far as the genocide stuff, bad times, but we can't save the world...there's too much nastiness.

Tell you what though, if people did more research and didn't just parrot the ideas that they are told to parrot, even when they can be simply debunked, as done above, I bet you there'd be less genocide, what with people thinking for their self rather than goose stepping with the other authoritarians.

Also, the authoritarians use fear (of things like impending wars) to keep their flock scared and in line. Funny how you're worried about an impending world war, no?

bocephus549
05-22-2011, 21:06
Not true at all. You are missing something called a "demographic shift."

For one, plenty of "white males" still vote democrat....and, it is pretty much still the same kinds of "white males" (farmers, labor, union workers...) So you didnt break any habit. What did happen is "white males" started to shift from "Farmers, Labor, union workers..." to more white collar work, which tends to vote more conservative.

Are you a white male?

PEC-Memphis
05-22-2011, 21:13
Sorry to say, but it'd be akin to handing back the Pacific SW to Mexico because it used to belong to them... but even then, this would be more likely, as we started that war.

Dan

Mexico took it from the "American" indians.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 21:14
Are you a white male?

Yes, I am. However I was using his term and my statements still stand.

The same kind of people still tend to vote in the same way. People who shifted demographics may, in some cases, vote in another way. like me. I am not a farmer, Labor or union. So from that "white male' pespective, it is much more likely that I would not vote democrat. Also, as a TRADITIONAL Jew, it is much more likely that I would not vote democrat. (Again, as I pointed out, the "liberal" Jews that everyone rails against are most often secular or reformed)

bocephus549
05-22-2011, 21:19
So most "TRADITIONAL Jews" vote Republican?

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 21:21
So most "TRADITIONAL Jews" vote Republican?

Yes, the religious/traditional trend conservative. The problem is there are very few of us. Maybe 5-9% of Jews in the U.S.

bocephus549
05-22-2011, 21:23
Yes, the religious/traditional trend conservative. The problem is there are very few of us. Maybe 5-9% of Jews in the U.S.

More like 2%.

Rabbi
05-22-2011, 21:27
More like 2%.

Where do you get that from?

There are about 6.5 million Jews in the U.S.

Depending on how you do it and who is providing the data, there is up to 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the U.S

That is up to about 9%.

shotgunred
05-22-2011, 21:27
There will be lasting peace in Israel just as soon as all the Jews are eliminated by the Muslims. Actually the way thing are going the US mil will probably be told to do it.

Chuck TX
05-22-2011, 21:53
There will be lasting peace in Israel just as soon as all the Jews are eliminated by the Muslims. Actually the way thing are going the US mil will probably be told to do it.

Likely they'd then war over tribal issues and different brands of Islam. The Israelis simply give them a common enemy for the time being.

Nestor
05-22-2011, 22:15
Retarded idea it is.

tongix
05-22-2011, 22:22
Obama knows he needs the AIPAC cash flow coming in fast. He has to up his odds. Perfect timing, the guy is just natural.

Jowens
05-22-2011, 22:26
Unemployment is 9% (not double digits

The unemployment rate that you are referring to is calculated based on the number of people who can file an unemployment claim and are in the system as reporting. It doesn't account for folks who have run out of unemployment benefits or those who have given up looking for jobs.

The "real" unemployment rate is probably closer to 15%.

Fox
05-23-2011, 07:25
A peace plan that calls for the destruction of Israel.

What else could one expect from a president with a muslim name, a muslim heritage, and a deep sympathy for the PLO.

Little Joe
05-23-2011, 16:26
However even with all of that, Jews are about 2% of the population. What people dont often understand is the difference between "per capita" and "absolute"

In absolute terms, White Christians still have magnitudes of order more power and wealth in this country than Jews do. It isnt even close.

Per capita, the Jews have double the money of white Christians. In absolute terms, white Christans have 5 times the wealth of the Jews.

In the real world the actual number of absolute wealth that white Christians have is stageringly higher than "5" times.

Yep, blessed above all others and numerous as the stars of heaven and the sands of the sea.

Jake Starr
05-24-2011, 04:31
There was not a shred of information in what you listed as "summing it up" you realize?

I could post that and fill in the Obama with literally any leader from any time period and it would carry the same weight as what you have there.

The only thing we have to worry about in this country is authoritarianism. Literally every single war that has ever happened in the history of mankind was started by an authoritarian and finished by a coalition against an authoritarian.

Read conservatives without conscience by John Dean for more information on this. He was the guy who cracked the Watergate Scandal.

When you are willing to parrot the ideas of your handlers (as I have just pointed out that you have done) without second guessing their merit or looking for actual facts to back them up, you are exhibiting the fundamental characteristic of an authoritarian. That is the only threat this country, and humanity itself, has ever faced...people who follow without thinking for their self.

Sure it can be applied to anyone, as anyone who read it should be able to figure that out. Thanks for the lesson, jr. :upeyes:

But I posted it as a quote about Mr O and those who voted for him. Whether you agree with the sentiment of the quoute or not does not make the quote invalid in and of itself.

swinokur
05-24-2011, 08:11
Well I guess the US should go back to it's pre 1845 border with Mexico because when we annexed Texas they were left without a homeland and were forced to move south to Mexico to remain there in abject poverty for the rest of their lives.

Sound familiar?