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CJStudent
05-23-2011, 07:18
Guys, I've noticed two threads on here in the last week of officers getting hurt or killed on bikes, and had a guy in my ARNG unit get pretty bad messed up (broken pelvis, collapsed lung, among other things) when he wrecked out on his bike on his way home from drill two weekends ago.

I personally don't ride, but I just wanted to tell everyone to be careful out there. People are stupid in general, and twice as stupid when they get behind the wheel. We really don't need any more entries on ODMP this year; there's way too many already.

MeefZah
05-23-2011, 09:53
Word.

I just rode to work for the first time this year yesterday, and I was thinking of exactly that as I was riding.

Take steps to mitigate risks! Wear a helmet - let's be honest, you're an idiot not to. Wear all the gear... I have a high viz coat, overpants, protective boots, etc. Nerdy as hell, but I do 30,000 miles a year and I'm still here...

Ride like you're invisible, 'cause you are. Use good lane positioning and check your mirrors, too... lots of guys getting ass ended lately.

Anymore, when I ride for fun, I ride back roads, gravel, dirt... less likelyhood of getting creamed that way.

This seems like a good place to pimp out my vacation trip... I sent lawman800 the PM link to it 'cause I know he rides, but if anyone else cares and has an hour to kill, I took a 18 day, 8100 mile trip this summer all over the US....

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619034

DaBigBR
05-23-2011, 10:20
I wanted a bike through the last couple years in high school, but never got one. Remained interested for a couple of years until an officer with another agency was riding his HD (off duty...no motor cops around here) and got smoked by somebody that turned left in front of him (and was also uninusred). He used a lot of blood (like six or seven units), broke both legs, pelvis, ribs, burst bladder, ankles, etc, but somehow made it back to work in just 10 months. A miracle if I ever saw one, and the last time I had any interest in a motorcycle.

nikerret
05-23-2011, 13:01
I wanted a bike through the last couple years in high school, but never got one. Remained interested for a couple of years until an officer with another agency was riding his HD (off duty...no motor cops around here) and got smoked by somebody that turned left in front of him (and was also uninusred). He used a lot of blood (like six or seven units), broke both legs, pelvis, ribs, burst bladder, ankles, etc, but somehow made it back to work in just 10 months. A miracle if I ever saw one, and the last time I had any interest in a motorcycle.

Damn, does he still ride?

Hack
05-23-2011, 13:18
We have a number of riders where I work.

Sharkey
05-23-2011, 18:32
Ridin' for 12 years. Started when I was 30. No one is invincible but you can mitigate risk by ATGATT, constantly scanning for threats, and riding within your skill level.

Is it dangerous? Sure but so is our profession. When God calls you home, it doesn't matter where you are or what you are doing. That said, have a DNR! :supergrin:

txleapd
05-23-2011, 19:06
I never had any desire to get on a motorcycle. It seems like most of the officers who get seriously hurt are motor officers. I've had some good friends get messed up pretty bad. No thanks.... God love those of you ride bikes.

Cochese
05-23-2011, 19:18
I gave it up last year for my daughter. Bike paid off a credit card too.

ChiefWPD
05-23-2011, 19:23
Around eight years ago I had a little old lady make a left turn in front of me while I was on my BMW R1100R. Full protective gear saved my life. Hitting the side of her car square on with my head lost me the use of my left arm (ripped nerves out of my spine, ergo, lost the use of my left arm's bicep).

Bikes are wonderful machines. Just very dangerous.

Ride safe all.

dsa1115
05-23-2011, 19:31
I've ridden motorcycles for 31 years and knock on wood, I've never been in an accident. However, I have had people pull out in front of me and change lanes without looking countless times. If you ride IMO, it's just stupid to do so without a helmet, boots, gloves, etc.. With in dash GPS systems, cellphone use, i.e., texting and driving, etc etc., there are a lot more distractions that keep drivers eyes focused on things inside their vehicle and not on the road. My best advice is to assume every driver doesn't see you 100% of the time, because riding a motorcycle isn't forgiving.

Billua
05-23-2011, 20:00
Around eight years ago I had a little old lady make a left turn in front of me while I was on my BMW R1100R. Full protective gear saved my life. Hitting the side of her car square on with my head lost me the use of my left arm (ripped nerves out of my spine, ergo, lost the use of my left arm's bicep).

Bikes are wonderful machines. Just very dangerous.

Ride safe all.

Chief, WADR bikes are not dangerous. Stupid drivers and operators are what is dangerous..

The cars making the left turn in front of a bike are the ones causing most of the bike/car fatalities...
I have been riding for 4 decades and by far, the best tools for staying alive other than proper gear, are headlight and taillight modulators...If a driver looks at all in your direction, they will see you if using a headlight modulator.

If you ride, please check this out:http://www.kriss.com/harleymod.php

I am not endorsing this brand, just using the link as an example of what is out there and could save someone on this boards life...

GLK38
05-23-2011, 21:23
Motor officers like myself like to say we drive our bikes not ride them...there is a difference. I control it, it doesn't control me. The majority of people that are riding have very little training on how to handle situations like obstacles in the road or sudden stops. That gets people killed everyday.

Unfortunately there is always a chance someone will pull out in front of you. Sometimes you see them, sometimes you wont. The more training you have the more likely you are able to predict stupid people's actions before they happen. As always though sometimes it's just your time...I ride defensively to make sure it's not.

DaBigBR
05-24-2011, 00:27
Damn, does he still ride?

That I don't know. He's got more metal in him than some modern motorcycles.

lawman800
05-24-2011, 22:00
I've been riding since 1982... had a few spills but safety gear saved me from anything major. I don't ride street much now and leave the fast stuff to the racetrack.

It is dangerous thanks to the drivers out there, but you just have to be vigilant and stay alert at all times.

Trigger Finger
05-24-2011, 22:40
I have been riding bikes since I was 18 years old. I used to love it. Started with a Honda and ended up with a Harley Davidson. My worst accident was when I wrecked in a dirt bike race I was in. I gave it up several years ago when some work related injuries caught up with me.

I had a motor officer tell me " There are 3 kinds of motorcycle riders, those that are going to have a wreck, those that have been in a wreck and those that are going to wreck AGAIN" .

I used to belong to a club, the 77th Cavalry.

Ducowti
05-25-2011, 08:25
I've put down about 150K POV bike miles since I've been riding. Never thought I'd come off the street, but one day last fall marvelling at my infant daughter I stopped commuting cold turkey, which I did year round. Rode every fair weather weekend, both days, as many as 300mi/day. I live by ATGATT, wearing full leather/full face lid no matter the summer temps. Never had a car-caused getoff, but did have a couple operator error incidents that fortunately left me w.recoverable injuries. I still do a couple track days each year, but find the interest there waning as well. Just can't imagine not being able to play w.or carry/toss/etc my kid. I don't delude myself into thinking riding isn't dangerous, because it damn sure is.

I'm still riding for the Dept. though. And after recently watching an oblivious cager nearly creme a few of us on a 40 bike motorcade despite an outrider - and the stream of lighted bikes(!) - blocking the intersection and I still consider it the best gig within, despite the hazards.

CJStudent
05-25-2011, 15:59
I got the opportunity to do a color guard with the National Guard for this as they visited the Kentucky Vietnam War memorial in Frankfort today:

http://www.rftw.org/

Talk about an organized group! 400+ bikes, with organized groups, roadguards, police escort, etc. Nationwide ride, and for a damn good cause. Just thought I'd share on it, for those that ride.

SDforce
05-26-2011, 01:34
Be safe out there. CHP motor officer was hit while running a traffic break. Vehicle veered into him. He sustained a broken femur and wrist. He was just 30 days shy of retirement.

I had someone lane change into me yesterday. Probably easiest ticket I've written in a while since she found me. Just glad I saw it coming and was able to swerve out of the way.

hockeybrianboy
05-27-2011, 00:44
As far as motorcycle vs car while on duty, motorcycle seems like an unnecessary risk. I was driving behind a motorcycle on the highway at night last week and it was noticeably harder to keep track of where he was than an ordinary car. Plus a car provides a ton more protection should something happen, not to mention space for more guns.

OldCurlyWolf
05-27-2011, 02:17
I always said there were two duties I did not want to pull, both were voluntary. One was being a motor officer, the other was being a Narc. The first I couldn't see doing in a city, the second I strongly believe I could not have pulled off the dealing with the punks without giving myself or others away as officers. That would not be a nice thing to have happen.

DaBigBR
05-27-2011, 02:47
As far as motorcycle vs car while on duty, motorcycle seems like an unnecessary risk. I was driving behind a motorcycle on the highway at night last week and it was noticeably harder to keep track of where he was than an ordinary car. Plus a car provides a ton more protection should something happen, not to mention space for more guns.

If there's a will, there's a way:

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/47353/2753116370072664822S500x500Q85.jpg

Trigger Finger
05-27-2011, 03:53
Along the same lines as above, most LAPD motor officers now have a shotgun mounted one there bike.

It is tempting being a motor officer. On my old department you got an 11% pay raise, a take home vehicle, all the cash overtime you wanted for some traffic related detail and all the girls you can pick up. I hear chicks love the motor and the motor uniform. Just saying, I my younger devil may care days. :whistling:

SDforce
05-27-2011, 12:11
Along the same lines as above, most LAPD motor officers now have a shotgun mounted one there bike.

It is tempting being a motor officer. On my old department you got an 11% pay raise, a take home vehicle, all the cash overtime you wanted for some traffic related detail and all the girls you can pick up. I hear chicks love the motor and the motor uniform. Just saying, I my younger devil may care days. :whistling:

Some have an AR-15 mounted on their bike. The take home bike is very nice especially with gas prices nowadays. And yes, the girls go crazy over the boots! :supergrin:

Detectorist
05-27-2011, 12:58
Chief, WADR bikes are not dangerous. Stupid drivers and operators are what is dangerous..

The cars making the left turn in front of a bike are the ones causing most of the bike/car fatalities...
I have been riding for 4 decades and by far, the best tools for staying alive other than proper gear, are headlight and taillight modulators...If a driver looks at all in your direction, they will see you if using a headlight modulator.

If you ride, please check this out:http://www.kriss.com/harleymod.php

I am not endorsing this brand, just using the link as an example of what is out there and could save someone on this boards life...

Agree. I used to ride with a friend whose headlight was a bit loose. It would sort of 'modulate' and he never had anyone not see him. Me, on the other hand, I was sort of invisible.

The number 1 rule of bike riding is to expect the car in front of you to do the most stupid and dangerous thing you can think of. That saved some skin for me.

The other thing is to take a safety course. When I rode the MSF offered great courses.

Sharkey
05-27-2011, 14:04
And yes, the girls go crazy over the boots! :supergrin:


It's not just the girls supposedly. :shocked:

Ducowti
05-27-2011, 20:30
... And yes, the girls go crazy over the boots! :supergrin:

I've gotten more comments than I can recall. :cool:

It's not just the girls supposedly. :shocked:

Never had a male comment on them.

lawman800
05-27-2011, 21:01
Women dig the uniform. Women dig motorcycles. Combine the two and LOOKOUT WORLD! It's badge bunny heaven!

MeefZah
05-27-2011, 21:10
It's not just the girls supposedly. :shocked:

"Killer boots, man!"

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/swivel_2004/Killerbootsman.jpg