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carguy2244
05-25-2011, 21:19
Today I saw a SA Mil Spec at Vance's for 649. A little higher than online, but I prefer to buy locally.
Gun was NM frame and tight as a drum.
I have no use for it but I really liked it.
So, opinions on this weapon?
Thanks - and yes - I know doesn't come packaged in tupperware.

Quack
05-25-2011, 21:26
Get it, or drive up to Fin Feather and fur. I think they have them for $589 for the Parkerized model. Vance's will also price match.

Quack
05-25-2011, 21:28
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=230994961

carguy2244
05-25-2011, 21:57
Thanks for the deal information. So you like the weapon?

Solid Snake
05-25-2011, 22:38
i recently bought a nib NM parked mil-spec, and it is SUPER tight, no movement between frame and slide whatsoever! also, no nasty rear frame/slide overhang/underhang mess that sometimes is found on some 1911s, the frame and slide mesh perfectly. barrel locks up like a bank vault, and the triger breaks at about 4 1/2 punds! i paid a bit to much, but i couldn't let a gun like this slip away(had that happen recently and wasn't gonna let it happen again!). its gonna be my base for a meu-soc'ish type build. i love it!

HotRoderX
05-25-2011, 22:44
I pick it up them things are hard to find around here and I love a Spring Field GI

fistpoint
05-26-2011, 02:24
Would having an NM marked frame be worth the extra $50-75? If not then Quacks link is your best bet...but most likely will not be an NM and sight unseen. Offer your shop his asking price tax included.

or

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/32592

It says you can reserve one for $575 shipped.

Fedor
05-26-2011, 04:45
Is it made in Brazil ?

faawrenchbndr
05-26-2011, 05:20
Is it made in Brazil ?

All Springfileld mil-specs are made in Brazil. I've handled NM prefix models
that were not fitted as well the Brazilian fitted models.

carguy2244
05-26-2011, 05:26
All Springfileld mil-specs are made in Brazil. I've handled NM prefix models
that were not fitted as well the Brazilian fitted models.

This Mil Spec has the NM serial number and "Made in Genesco" on the frame. I thought that the weapons made in Brazil were stamped "Imbel", at least the ones I've seen.

knedrgr
05-26-2011, 05:30
All Springfileld mil-specs are made in Brazil. I've handled NM prefix models
that were not fitted as well the Brazilian fitted models.

All frame and slides are made in Brazil.

The finishing machining for NM pistols are done in The States, thus they are Made in the US. The ones marked N were finished machined in Brazil.

Once the frame rails AND sear pin holes are drilled, they must be stamped with a serial number, thus the respective marking of where it's made.

faawrenchbndr
05-26-2011, 05:33
Yep,....that's what I said.





Without the middle details, thanks for filling in the gaps Knedrgr. :supergrin:

knedrgr
05-26-2011, 05:39
Yep,....that's what I said.





Without the middle details, thanks for filling in the gaps Knedrgr. :supergrin:

:supergrin:


Had to clear it up so the noobies don't go :dunno:

faawrenchbndr
05-26-2011, 05:46
Yep,........thanks for the assist. :wavey:

Hurricanes
05-26-2011, 06:35
I remember the day I bought my first handgun(P226) I had looked over a SS Mil-Spec the shop had sitting on the counter. Asking price at the time was $575, and I regret not buying it. Go figure that 5 years later I've sold the P226, and now hooked with 1911 syndrome. I called the same shop before pcking up my Rock Island(first 1911) in January and they wanted $675 for a SS Mil Spec.
-Joel

lawdog734
05-26-2011, 06:41
Get it, or drive up to Fin Feather and fur. I think they have them for $589 for the Parkerized model. Vance's will also price match.

I hope when fff open up here they have one of those. I'ld pick one up.

Z71
05-26-2011, 06:50
I own an older Milspec..bought new in the 1990's. Had some premature slide-lock issues because the slidestop stuck into the magwell too far when it was new. Has a two piece barrel(not sure if they still use this or not). Very good pistol otherwise..accurate and reliable.

I believe it cost just over $400 new in the mid 1990's

Quigley
05-28-2011, 09:54
I bought my mil spec last weekend for 530 OTD. It is a very nice 1911 for the price. Also, it made in the USA. The GI's are made in Brazil.

carloglock19
05-29-2011, 20:07
I like my Milspec. Its been reliable and trouble free for me!

La26
05-29-2011, 20:19
I own an older Milspec..bought new in the 1990's. Had some premature slide-lock issues because the slidestop stuck into the magwell too far when it was new. Has a two piece barrel(not sure if they still use this or not). Very good pistol otherwise..accurate and reliable.

I believe it cost just over $400 new in the mid 1990's

I'm kinda new to 1911's. Could you elaborate on what a two piece barrel is? Did you mean two piece guide rod?

jakebrake
05-29-2011, 20:24
like them, i own one...and it is a sweet shooter.

Mr. Gekko
05-29-2011, 20:35
I'm kinda new to 1911's. Could you elaborate on what a two piece barrel is? Did you mean two piece guide rod?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/binhdao/ResizeofDSCN0134.jpg

fistpoint
05-30-2011, 03:21
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/binhdao/ResizeofDSCN0134.jpg


Is this a pic before it is joined together or the result of a malfunction? Regardless, thanks for posting this pic as it shows what I have wanted to know for a long time now. It's not the way I envisioned it...

La26
05-30-2011, 13:49
Thanks for the photo Mr. Gekko,
That's a new one on me. What was the reason they were designed that way?

Mr. Gekko
05-30-2011, 14:22
No clue, but I would guess it is either cheaper or easier to manufacture. Some guys here know a lot more about springfields than I do, maybe they will chime in with a good answer. Two piece barrels are not that uncommon though.

It was just a photo I remember seeing awhile back about a failed barrel so I searched for it last night.

Z71
05-31-2011, 07:25
Yep...that's the style of barrel in my Milspec...except it's still brazed together..

nolt
05-31-2011, 08:23
hey do the new milspecs still have those two-piece barrels?

knedrgr
05-31-2011, 08:30
I believe so. My Mil-Spec is 2 years old and it had it. Went back to SA for other repair, and it was replaced to a single-piece barrel. Same one that's on the RO.

Z71
05-31-2011, 19:19
Quite a number of pistols use two piece barrels brazed together into a single chunk.

I own a Hi-Power clone with a barrel made like the Springers..Remington had made hi-power rifle barrels for the 740/742 in this fashion too.

I've heard rumors of two piece/brazed barrel failures over the years..and seen pics somewhere of a 1911 barrel that 'snapped off' at the seam...and now the pic posted above that apparently came unglued...so it would seem obvious that two piece barrels fail on occasion...same as regular 'one chunk' barrels.

I wouldn't worry about a barrel made like that too much...but would prefer a solid monolithic one piece barrel...I must say my Springer's been a fine preformer with such a barrel.

nolt
05-31-2011, 20:41
i was just curious. i didnt know if they still used them or not but it wouldnt change my mind about buying one.

woodrowNC
06-01-2011, 17:33
Today I saw a SA Mil Spec at Vance's for 649. A little higher than online, but I prefer to buy locally.
Gun was NM frame and tight as a drum.
I have no use for it but I really liked it.
So, opinions on this weapon?
Thanks - and yes - I know doesn't come packaged in tupperware.

i want one bad. it or a 1911a1. either will do. but i must pay off the springer first. but, i've got rifles out the ying yang, and i ain't above selling one for the other. i've got options boys. :cool:

fistpoint
06-02-2011, 21:09
I believe so. My Mil-Spec is 2 years old and it had it. Went back to SA for other repair, and it was replaced to a single-piece barrel. Same one that's on the RO.

That seems to be standard procedure when dealing with SA. I don't think they have any 2 piece barrels locally, they must all come from Brazil.

nolt
06-03-2011, 17:03
snagged one of these today.

hope to wear it out this weekend!

=]

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 17:06
snagged one of these today.

hope to wear it out this weekend!

=]

Pics or it didn't happen. :tongueout:

nolt
06-03-2011, 18:12
ok ill take a pic later tnite.

i gotta get those cross cannons off there tho.

edit: here it is in all its stock milspec glory...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oyu9jkuFBNA/TemxOZa1toI/AAAAAAAABaA/kMlneiMRyCo/s640/SA_Mil-Spec_stock.jpg

nolt
06-04-2011, 14:28
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/binhdao/ResizeofDSCN0134.jpg

the above barrel separated. i get that. but mine looks like this:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z37IXBsfw5E/TeqVMKS5pNI/AAAAAAAABaE/BXZv4GCABRU/MilSpec-stock-barrel.jpg

i really cant tell where it would be welded/connected. wouldnt it be evident on inspection?

this barrels gonna get replaced. im not wringing my hands about it at all. every two piece barrel chucked into a milspec may be twice the barrel that this one is but im almost positive its one piece.

Z71
06-04-2011, 20:17
Eh?....That ain't like my barrel...looks like a one piece machined barrel to me...you can see the braze joint on my 'Milspec' barrel...hair-line brass ring around the barrel behind the lugs...like the pics show..only one piece.

Mr. Gekko
06-04-2011, 20:31
this barrels gonna get replaced. im not wringing my hands about it at all. every two piece barrel chucked into a milspec may be twice the barrel that this one is but im almost positive its one piece.

It looks like one piece to me, I could be wrong. On the other hand, why change it? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Enjoy your gun. I wouldn't worry about trying to fix a problem that likely does not exist. As I said before, two piece barrels are not uncommon. The picure I posted is not a everyday occurrence.

bac1023
06-04-2011, 21:22
Is it made in Brazil ?

Yes..

knedrgr
06-05-2011, 08:36
Nolt, you have a one piece barrel. Same one that SA replaced from my 2-piece.

nolt
06-05-2011, 09:17
Mr. Gekko:
The gun was bought with the ultimate intent of being re-worked.
Im going to shoot it and tool around with it (ive already replaced the trigger, thumb safety, and msh with spares from my pile of parts) and then eventually send it off somewhere.

Maybe SACS, maybe somewhere else.

But I will say its well built as-is.

nolt
06-05-2011, 09:19
Nolt, you have a one piece barrel. Same one that SA replaced from my 2-piece.

thanks. i suspected this but didnt want to declare it as im ignorant of how these barrels are brazed or welded.

its obviously one piece from the lugs back but i couldnt tell if there was any kind of crease where it throated down on the outside.

Mr. Gekko
06-05-2011, 21:37
Mr. Gekko:
The gun was bought with the ultimate intent of being re-worked.
Im going to shoot it and tool around with it (ive already replaced the trigger, thumb safety, and msh with spares from my pile of parts) and then eventually send it off somewhere.

Maybe SACS, maybe somewhere else.

But I will say its well built as-is.

:cool:

My apologies, Nolt. I assumed you were concerned about the barrel, and I did not know you intended the mil spec to be a work in progress.

Grappler112
06-06-2011, 03:27
just ran into a NM model mil-spec this weekend, which was exactly what I was looking for for my first 1911. It was tighter than the loaded model the shop had, I forgot to check the serial on the loaded to see if it was N or NM but the mil-spec was definatly better put together. Unfortunatly some of the packing material had come loose on it so the slide got some scratches and the owner was sending it back to Springfield to get it reparked, but he has my name and number and is supposed to call me as soon as it gets back so I have first crack at it

nolt
06-06-2011, 08:06
:cool:

My apologies, Nolt. I assumed you were concerned about the barrel, and I did not know you intended the mil spec to be a work in progress.

no worries. its pretty common to see "just bought a milspec what mods do i NEED!!??"

to which i think "bullets?" :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-06-2011, 08:17
no worries. its pretty common to see "just bought a milspec what mods do i NEED!!??"

to which i think "bullets?" :rofl:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCErXBvhHzVDNTlEh1hlnBlQR6VOTvoF9CBXMeZdlWFuxQGeMYvg

2sigs
06-07-2011, 13:02
I have an old example being NM 26xxx I think 1986 production
Barrel is one piece and interesting fact there is "OF" in model on left side of slide
Such as
"MODEL OF 1911-A1"
"CAL. 45"


Great 1911 I might add!