My recipe?

[Fwdftw]

got a question GTR, im loading 230 grain rn lead at 5.7 gr-5.8 gr.. had a couple ftfs today and got home pulled em and they had powder in them.. is this a light charge? according to my manual 225 gr start load is 5.5 and 7.4 max but im usin 5.7-5.8 ( unique powder) ?

[atakawow]

Fail to feed or fail to fire?

[Boxerglocker]

Fail to feed or fail to fire?

And OAL would be helpful... Have you confirmed the maximum OAL for the LRN bullet profile in you gun?

[Fwdftw]

fail to fire im sorry.. loading at 1.272


boxer im not sure how to do that?

[Boxerglocker]

fail to fire im sorry.. loading at 1.272


boxer im not sure how to do that?

Remove your barrel... take a fired case from that gun, and a bullet. You may have to slight chamfer the case. Get the bullet started straight into the case and push to a max OAL of about 1.4-5
Place the bullet in the chamber of the barrel, the bullet should hit the rifling. Push slowly to the appropriate length of the breach face. Remove and measure the bullet.
Now a little math, subtract 10% from the total measurement. The sum or max Sammi length is the max for that barrel, what ever is greater.

[Fwdftw]

wow i must be sleepy , that really doesnt make sense right now.

So take a spent casing and seat a bullet in it, push it by hand to a OAL of 1.4-1.5
Place the bullet into the barrel and the bullet should hit the rifling in the barrel and im to push it in? thats where i get lost the approiate height of the breach face.

[atakawow]

Problem is not the light charge. Look at the primer of the FTFire round, is there a strike mark on the primer? Were you able to pull the trigger? Did the hammer fall and no bang?

[Fwdftw]

Primer mark , trigger pulled no bang

[labdwakin]

Primer mark , trigger pulled no bang

Did you only try to fire the FTF rounds once? Sometimes if the primer isn't seated quite right it takes a couple of tries.

[atakawow]

Did you only try to fire the FTF rounds once? Sometimes if the primer isn't seated quite right it takes a couple of tries.

My guess as well.

FTW:

I watched your video from the other thread. Your priming takes almost no effort. When I load with the LCT, I really have to hold on to something with one hand for leverage, and the other hand push the handle fairly hard to get the primer to seat.

Make sure the primer is seated all the way in. The primer should not stick out beyond the butt of the case. A quick check is to run the tip of your finger through the primer pocket. You should not feel anything "sticking" out of place.

[Boxerglocker]

wow i must be sleepy , that really doesnt make sense right now.

So take a spent casing and seat a bullet in it, push it by hand to a OAL of 1.4-1.5
Place the bullet into the barrel and the bullet should hit the rifling in the barrel and im to push it in? thats where i get lost the approiate height of the breach face.

Do you know what a appropriately seated case looks like in a barrel? It how far the end of a case would stick out, when the breach is against it.

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss316/fieldboy1111/015-1.jpg

[Colorado4Wheel]

Isn't that high?

[WiskyT]

Isn't that high?

Or he is:whistling:

[alwaysshootin]

Did you only try to fire the FTF rounds once? Sometimes if the primer isn't seated quite right it takes a couple of tries.

Fail to fire, primer has been struck, = either the primer wasn't seated completely, or firing pin spring is weak. Try to fire once again the rounds that FTF, if they go off, it's the primer not seated completely, if they don't go off, it's a weak firing pin spring.

[WiskyT]

Fail to fire, primer has been struck, = either the primer wasn't seated completely, or firing pin spring is weak. Try to fire once again the rounds that FTF, if they go off, it's the primer not seated completely, if they don't go off, it's a weak firing pin spring.

That is usually it. A round that doesn't chamber properly can do it too.

[alwaysshootin]

That is usually it. A round that doesn't chamber properly can do it too.

True, but, if the firing pin is striking, chances are the Glock isn't firing out of battery, or at least it shouldn't be.

[lethal tupperwa]

or you could have dirt in the firing pin channel

[WiskyT]

True, but, if the firing pin is striking, chances are the Glock isn't firing out of battery, or at least it shouldn't be.

I agree. Every new loader has unseated primers and FWDFTW shouldn't be any different. As an old loader, I got some FTFires and it took a while, but I found out my shell plate carrier was cracked and the primers were not seating deep enough.

[fredj338]

Your OAL is too long first. SHorten it to 1.265", treat that as max. You do not even want to flirt w/ an OOB firing. If the primer will fire on the second strike, you are not seating them to the bottom of the pocket. Push on that handle, you are not going to detonate the primer.

[GioaJack]

Buy a LNL... they have no history what-so-ever of seating high primers.

Problem solved... next case. :couch:


Jack

[Boxerglocker]

Isn't that high?

Yes and purposely posted so to see the issue.

I never stated that was correctly chambered.

I was waiting for the noob to say that his they look exactly like that :upeyes:

[Zombie Steve]

99% sure you had some high primers.

[Fwdftw]

yea.. i was being a pansy.. lol ill force em in real good this time i promise lol

[lethal tupperwa]

yea.. i was being a pansy.. lol ill force em in real good this time i promise lol

you can deprime them but the crimp is still there

I don't recall a great deal of force being needed to seat primers fully.

[unclebob]

True, but, if the firing pin is striking, chances are the Glock isn't firing out of battery, or at least it shouldn't be.

A Glock can fire out of battery.