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mr00jimbo
05-29-2011, 19:55
I used to think all 1911s were inherently unreliable till I got my Colt Government S70 and it's been flawless. But people still talk about how they have lemons so I'm curious what your least reliable/most unreliable 1911 was and what it did, and if it ever got fixed?
I routinely hear about people claiming they sent guns back many times to no avail so curious to hear stories.

Hokie1911
05-29-2011, 19:57
This ought to be good. :popcorn:

Joshhtn
05-29-2011, 19:58
:popcorn:Tagged

Mr. Gekko
05-29-2011, 19:58
Every manufacturer is going to let turds out from time to time.

Only have two series 80 colts. Both work great. This might get interesting

jakebrake
05-29-2011, 19:58
was a colt 1991 a1. couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it if i was standing inside the barn. so much slop in the barrel link it was actually comical. 100 rounds of sheer hell.

after the second box, i put her up for sale. bought a para p-14 that i adored.

craig19
05-29-2011, 20:00
My Dad's Colt Combat Commander. He bought it new in the mid 70's, it had a FTE or FTF every 4th or 5th round. I don't remember what all he had done to it to try to make it work. I know he had the feed ramp polished, switched extractors, tried good mags, crappy mags and different mag followers. He finally dumped it in the mid- 90s and used some of the money to buy a Norinco 1911 (which has been a great pistol).

On the plus side the 1911s that have been great for the two of us are: the Norinco, my Springfield GI, and his Kimber Custom II.

GJ1981
05-29-2011, 20:02
My words would be like sand in some people's ******s. Oh well, two of my SACS would fit the bill for reliability and durability issues.

SA Pro, returned twice, never fixed by SA. Went to a respect shop and haven't had any issues...yet.

SA Custom Carry, returned once, came back fixed along with a new problem. Pretty much got told slide lug peening was acceptable. Not fixed.


So there, I have filled someone's panties with sand.


And now,


:couch:

bac1023
05-29-2011, 20:04
I once had a POS Para Warthog that wouldn't fire a full mag without an issue. Of course, I can't even consider that a 1911.

Quack
05-29-2011, 20:08
Para Ordanance 14.45 Limited. I traded it off for a Colt H-Bar.

cowboywannabe
05-29-2011, 20:14
in the mid 80's i was almost the owner of a detonics .45acp compact. my co-worker let me shoot it first and after it stumbled through 50 rounds of ammo with various malfunctions i passed on the "deal".

MadMonkey
05-29-2011, 20:14
Para Ordnance double stack, can't remember the model it's been so long. Complete POS.

Cobra64
05-29-2011, 20:30
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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/COLTTOILET2.jpg

Mayhem like Me
05-29-2011, 20:31
EARLY Dan Wesson C bob 45acp. prior to CZ lots of feeding extraction problems...sent it back 3 times.. soured me on the prior owner and his work.. you should not have to pay shipping to send back your brand new non functioning gun 3 times...

still thinking about a guardian

HotRoderX
05-29-2011, 20:33
Only unreliable pistol I have had so far is my Glock 17. Everything else has been pretty flawless "Knock on wood"

Mayhem like Me
05-29-2011, 20:34
In classes I teach I see more problems with PARA guns than any other makes combines, both double and single stack versions..particularly heinous are the LDA..systems...

FLIPPER 348
05-29-2011, 20:47
I've never come across a problematic 1911 that was not easily fixed. It's not a difficult mechanical system to troubleshoot. But then again I only shoot ball ammo and keep things mil-spec.

Narc1911
05-29-2011, 21:35
I once had a POS Para Warthog that wouldn't fire a full mag without an issue. Of course, I can't even consider that a 1911.

Me too

ArmoryDoc
05-29-2011, 23:02
Your most unreliable 1911?

I don't have any unreliable 1911's. Mine are five Colts and a Dan Wesson CCO. I'm all good to go. :cool:

owl6roll
05-29-2011, 23:35
No problems Colt, Kimber, Para, Glocks all work fine.

98_1LE
05-30-2011, 00:11
Worst was a Para Ordinance P16-40 I bought new in 1995, although it was a high cap pre ban model (although the coupons for cheap mags were robbed). Gun simply could not finish a mag of hollowpoints, although in its defense the flying ashtrays of the 90's weren't the best feeding.

Second worst was an early external extractor Kimber Ultra CDPII, 2005 vintage. 2 trips back to Kimber and it still couldn't finish a box of ammo without a failure.

woodrowNC
05-30-2011, 00:12
i bought an early pro carry. flawless. sold it yrs later purchased another,would't run. sent it back twice. i don't think kimber makes bad guns.


just think i got a lemon. but i won't deal with them again. costomer service treated me like crap. with mass production, bad one's get through. i don't think kimber makes bad guns. i just got a bad one. happens to them all. machinist for 30 yrs. i know how the manufacturing process works. things slip thru. but i'm not a rude person, and i wont' deal with one.

byaah_19
05-30-2011, 00:42
Kimber Pro carry II. The slide would lock back on the 5th round every time. I first tried different mags but that did not work so I sent it in to Kimber. They said they had to replace my slide stop so no big deal. After I got it back I was shooting it and the plunger tube came loose. Later that day as I was cleaning it and the plunger tube actually came out. Sent it back to Kimber and they fixed it. After sendind a brand new gun in twice I was just tired of dealing with it and sold it and bought a Colt 1991 and I love it. No issues at all.

CMG
05-30-2011, 03:04
AMT Hardballer. Pins sizes and locations out of spec, so it couldn't even be fixed to run reliably.

It was a great learning tool though! :cool:

DLL9mm
05-30-2011, 03:16
Mine was my last 1911. A Colt Commander 1991. Fired Ok for a couple hundred rounds and then it started to get some feeding problems. I fixed these problems with a new recoil spring, however I still couldn't trust it. I sold it and bought my Springfield loaded that has been great.

FL Airedale
05-30-2011, 05:39
Colt 70 series I bought new in 1982. It had frequent feed and stovepipe problems. I had a gunsmith lower the ejection port and do some polishing. I used that pistol in competition after that and it was 100% reliable. It still goes bang, ejects the casing and loads a new round every time.

It was my carry gun for over 20 years.

BlayGlock
05-30-2011, 07:15
2 Paras. Never again.

TKR Reptiles
05-30-2011, 09:10
Wouldn't really call any of the 1911's I have had "unreliable". However the best shooting and most reliable 1911 I have owned is my Kimber CDP Pro II...

Cerebrus
05-30-2011, 09:39
I guess I have been lucky.. the only issue that I have had with a new 1911 was my Springer.. it got shipped with a commander sized recoil spring.. one phone call and less than 5 days later a new spring was in the gun.. no problems since.. :thumbsup:

limbkiller
05-30-2011, 10:38
I've only owned 5 and still have them, 2 MA's, 1 Colt, 1 SA and a GSG 1911 .22. Never had a problem. A buddy of mine owns 27 1911's and never had a problem either. 5 of his are Kimbers and 3 are Taurus's. Maybe we are lucky?

Oaklane
05-30-2011, 12:02
Springfield Champion GI. SAC was very good to deal with, but I never trusted that gun again.

GVFlyer
05-30-2011, 12:26
The only "bad" 1911 that I've ever had was Kimber Pro Raptor II that simply could not be made reliable.

Gunshine
05-30-2011, 13:59
I once had a POS Para Warthog that wouldn't fire a full mag without an issue. Of course, I can't even consider that a 1911.

I once almost purchased a para warthog. Then read something BAC wrote and avoided it.

clancy
05-30-2011, 14:42
My Kimber Pro Eclipse 2 was a total nightmare. Every 3rd round had a malfunction, FTE, failure to go into battery, faliure to eject. It didn't matter what kind of ammuntion I tried, nor what kind of magazine. After 600 rounds or so I was able to get it to have a malfunction once every magazine. But when I tried to rapid fire it, the magazine would eject. After about 750 rounds, I sent it back to Kimber. Got it back, and lo and behold, a stovepipe at the 4th round, and failure to feed on the 5th and 7th. After 50 rounds of that I cleaned it and traded it.

My Gold Cup functions flawlessly with whatever kind of ammunition I use, as long as I use only Colt mags. Anything after market, Kimber, Wilson, McCormick, Taurus, and GI, I get constant FTE's . But Colt mags work great. Anyone have any idea why that might be?

GeorgiaRedfish
05-30-2011, 17:29
My RIA Compact- it had a few feeding problems, but it was simply solved. Sent it to their shop for free, and they polished the feed ramp, and then it was good to go.

But that was only a few times with hollowpoints, and after going back it ran 100%, and the AirForce guy I sent it to still loves it and never had a problem.

Ruggles
05-30-2011, 18:53
Kimber UCII with the dreaded EE. Horribly unreliable. I have had other Kimbers that have been fine, including a UC Raptor but that UCII was a POS. I have had good luck with Para (Warthog and LTC) unlike some others. I think they are luck of the draw 1911s :) in fact I got the LTC the same month I got a Baer TRS Comanche and over the 1st 1000 rounds thru each gun they had equal reliability. It was roughly 98% for both.

STI
05-30-2011, 18:56
Absolutely A Springfield Armory 1911 was the worst ever, ( 2 of them)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Had a nightmare with customer service too.

ctfireman
05-30-2011, 19:22
Never missed a beat with any of mine.

Z71
05-31-2011, 08:19
A lot of the 1911 pistols I've owned didn't like me!

First one I owned was a brandnew Auto Ordinance...it lasted one box of ammo..and the frame peened over to where you couldn't take it apart. It was reliable for the 50 shots...but whether that would have lasted long I don't know..dealer took it back.

Next one was a Norinco 1911A1..it was pretty decent except the supplied mags were junk...had a bad habit of the mag follower getting hung-up on the slidestop. The barrel lugs on this gun started wearing funky after some use..I traded it off. The Norinco was a gun I bought new too.

The next one I owned was a stainless Randall...preowned..it was a true 'Jam-O-matic'

Then came the Sistema Colt 1927...first 1911 I've owned that worked properly...I still own this one.

Then I bought a new Springer Milspec..it was and is a great pistol..except it had a bad habit of locking open premature..I fixed that..and the pistol is an excellent gun.

I went from the mid 1990's to now..owning the Sistema Colt..and the Springfield Milspec...perfectly happy with these two 1911 pistols...Then last year Remington came out with it's new 1911R1..I lusted after one..and just bought a Rem 1911...it ain't perfect..but it'c close..and a damn good shooting pistol.

So what I'm saying...is I've had about a 50/50 chance of getting a good 1911...

nolt
05-31-2011, 08:27
dan wesson razorback 10mm.

it seems reliable now but it was hell getting it here. i feel like most people would have sold that thing and bought a DE. i had made up my mind to see it through.

BuckyP
05-31-2011, 09:06
9mm / 10 round magazine rant:

I've yet to handle a single stack 9mm that will do slide lock reloads 100% with any brand 10 round magazine. It's something I'd really like to resolve. Currently, insert mag / hit slide release / nose dive. It's not all the time, but at least 10% or more, which is unacceptable. I've tried 3 different guns / makers and 3 different magazine makers. :crying: If anyone knows how to resolve this, I'm listening.

98_1LE
05-31-2011, 09:41
My 9mm Fusion with Tripp 10 round mags have never had that problem. Nor did the 9 round Metalform mags.

That said I normally "slingshot" the slide rather than thumb the slide stop.

BuckyP
05-31-2011, 10:00
My 9mm Fusion with Tripp 10 round mags have never had that problem. Nor did the 9 round Metalform mags.

That said I normally "slingshot" the slide rather than thumb the slide stop.


Which tends to work just fine. I'm just ingrained to use the slide stop. :sigh:

Rman 585
05-31-2011, 10:16
Only unreliable pistol I have had so far is my Glock 17. Everything else has been pretty flawless "Knock on wood"


Gen 4 ?.....Ya they suck ....LOL....and who ever wants to say something they can bring it.....:supergrin: GEN 4s SUCK

Rman 585
05-31-2011, 10:18
9mm / 10 round magazine rant:

I've yet to handle a single stack 9mm that will do slide lock reloads 100% with any brand 10 round magazine. It's something I'd really like to resolve. Currently, insert mag / hit slide release / nose dive. It's not all the time, but at least 10% or more, which is unacceptable. I've tried 3 different guns / makers and 3 different magazine makers. :crying: If anyone knows how to resolve this, I'm listening.

My RIA 9mm is great put some nice adjustable sights on her and its great...only 9 rd mags though

Hokie1911
05-31-2011, 12:04
Gen 4 ?.....Ya they suck ....LOL....and who ever want to say something they can bring it.....:supergrin: GEN 4s SUCK

Can someone translate this for me? My Ebonics are a little rusty.

Rman 585
05-31-2011, 12:14
Can someone translate this for me? My Ebonics are a little rusty.

translation=Gen 4s suck.....got something to say about it?

Hokie1911
05-31-2011, 12:55
translation=Gen 4s suck.....got something to say about it?

Yeah, as a matter of fact I do. Try speaking in complete sentences as opposed to the gibberish you previously posted. Here's a bit of advice for you...

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

craig19
05-31-2011, 13:01
translation=Gen 4s suck.....got something to say about it?


I have had problems with my GEN 4 19, my GEN 4 22 has been great, no issues at all with it.

Hokie1911
05-31-2011, 13:06
Apparently this goofball got lost and thought he was in General Glocking or maybe he just can't read the title of the thread. Who cares what his opinion of Gen4 is.

1006
05-31-2011, 13:47
I have a Caspian/Foster 9mm 1911 that I put together after my smith fit the ramped barrel and cut the sight dovetails. I runs 100% as long as the bullets are not too short -- it does not like short hollow or conical points. It runs fine with any factory ball ammo or Speer Got Dot. I am running with 9 round Metal Form Mags.

Unreliable 1911? My buddy's Para P16-40, Todd Jarret IPSC model, It has repeatedly failed, the big extractor, the firing pin, the slide rubbed the top edge of the safety, ejector came loose -- even the local smith told him to buy a different gun.

Glock If you have one that won't run -- send it back, they will fix it.

limbkiller
05-31-2011, 15:15
Apparently this goofball got lost and thought he was in General Glocking or maybe he just can't read the title of the thread. Who cares what his opinions of Gen4 is.

Give'm hell Paul. I agree. :rofl::rofl:

nolt
05-31-2011, 20:57
hey i heard this thread was about glocks

Hokie1911
05-31-2011, 21:04
hey i heard this thread was about glocks

Yeah, that's a pretty quick way to get a thread locked in here. :rofl:

glock2740
05-31-2011, 21:10
My Norinco was reliable for the most part, but even after having the feed ramp polished twice, and using Wilson mags, it wouldn't reliablly feed several brands of JHP's. :dunno:I still should've kept it. :crying:

zippo
05-31-2011, 21:55
Para P13 early model..they suck FTE,FTF

when back to factory one time and then I sold it...

bac1023
06-01-2011, 14:32
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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/COLTTOILET2.jpg

:rofl:

bac1023
06-01-2011, 14:35
Yeah, that's a pretty quick way to get a thread locked in here. :rofl:

No doubt ;)

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 14:40
Glock gen4 sucks.

No wait, that's been covered already. My bad. :supergrin:

bac1023
06-01-2011, 14:48
Glock gen4 sucks.

No wait, that's been covered already. My bad. :supergrin:

They do suck :supergrin:

Cobra64
06-01-2011, 14:58
They do suck :supergrin:

Former left handed Glock shooter:

http://www.tuvie.com/wp-content/uploads/leg-hubless3.jpg

HotRoderX
06-01-2011, 15:02
I didnt mean to get it off topic guys sorry :crying:

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 15:03
This thread got derailed with the first post and the word "unreliable" in it. It was doomed from the getgo. :rofl:

GJ1981
06-01-2011, 15:07
This thread is making me want to buy a Gen 4 Glock. I can have an unreliable pistol and not have to pay $3000 to get it. Had the Gen 4 been out when I ordered from a "custom" shop. DAMN!

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 15:10
This thread is making me want to buy a Gen 4 Glock. I can have an unreliable pistol and not have to pay $3000 to get it. Had the Gen 4 been out when I ordered from a "custom" shop. DAMN!

No kidding Gary. Could have saved $2,500 for a gun that doesn't work. :supergrin:

HotRoderX
06-01-2011, 15:13
This thread got derailed with the first post and the word "unreliable" in it. It was doomed from the getgo. :rofl:


Will in that case maybe I don't feel so bad now :whistling:.

GJ1981
06-01-2011, 15:14
No kidding Gary. Could have saved $2,500 for a gun that doesn't work. :supergrin:

Not quite, the local FFL has been headed to the turlet lately on prices. Last I looked, it would have saved me $2400. Maybe I'll go buy a P30 from CDNN and call it a year, don't wanna get burned for the 5th time or so.

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 15:17
Not quite, the local FFL has been headed to the turlet lately on prices. Last I looked, it would have saved me $2400. Maybe I'll go buy a P30 from CDNN and call it a year, don't wanna get burned for the 5th time or so.

Now you're talking. :thumbsup:

GJ1981
06-01-2011, 15:20
Now you're talking. :thumbsup:

I was thinking a HK45/HK45c but the price of mags is making me think twice. Midway has P30 mags for $32, not bad really.

I just can't decide what variant I want. I've heard mixed feeling on the LEM but was thinking about it since I prefer a single, consistent trigger pull. I dunno, I need to decide soon, as much as I like my G19, it doesn't like my hand. Damn slide bite.

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 15:25
I was thinking a HK45/HK45c but the price of mags is making me think twice. Midway has P30 mags for $32, not bad really.

I just can't decide what variant I want. I've heard mixed feeling on the LEM but was thinking about it since I prefer a single, consistent trigger pull. I dunno, I need to decide soon, as much as I like my G19, it doesn't like my hand. Damn slide bite.

I really liked the feel of the V3 in my P2000. Nice heavy pull on the DA (11.5lb) for carry and drops to a smooth SA (4.5lb) after. Not sure if the P30 is the same weights on the pull.

nolt
06-01-2011, 15:29
its too easy to ditch an unreliable pistol if its cheap.

if its CUSTOM! and spendy then you want it to be reliable SO BAD you could put thousands (hundreds even!) of stove-piped rounds through it.

if you really really want to maximize the unreliable pistol experience you have to go all out.

Cobra64
06-01-2011, 15:30
This thread got derailed with the first post and the word "unreliable" in it. :rofl:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cartoons/TrainWreck.jpg

GJ1981
06-01-2011, 15:33
I really liked the feel of the V3 in my P2000. Nice heavy pull on the DA (11.5lb) for carry and drops to a smooth SA (4.5lb) after. Not sure if the P30 is the same weights on the pull.

Should be similar. My USP 40 is a V3, I think. Don't shoot it much lately since I've moved away from .40.

I still kick myself for passing on a P2000 9mm two years ago. It had barely seen the light of day, night sights, V3, and 3x 13 round? magazines for $550.

I know Heinie sells night sights, need to see who else does since I don't care for whatever HK calls their sights. I did see a P30 .40 with Mepros, that was the first of the new HK's I've seen come with NS's.

Cobra64
06-01-2011, 15:38
I really liked the feel of the V3 in my P2000. Nice heavy pull on the DA (11.5lb) for carry and drops to a smooth SA (4.5lb) after. Not sure if the P30 is the same weights on the pull.

:agree:

If weight is an issue, the P2000 / P30 are great carry weapons.

Hokie1911
06-01-2011, 15:40
Should be similar. My USP 40 is a V3, I think. Don't shoot it much lately since I've moved away from .40.

I still kick myself for passing on a P2000 9mm two years ago. It had barely seen the light of day, night sights, V3, and 3x 13 round? magazines for $550.

I know Heinie sells night sights, need to see who else does since I don't care for whatever HK calls their sights. I did see a P30 .40 with Mepros, that was the first of the new HK's I've seen come with NS's.

I had green/green Meps put onto my P2000.

AA#5
06-01-2011, 15:51
A Colt Combat Commander I bought new 36 years ago would malfunction half the time with 230 gr. FMJ. Gunsmiths told me "they all need customizing to function."

I owned a Kimber Gold Match that would function most of the time.

The Wilson CQB I bought in 2003 has never malfunctioned in 6500 rounds.

Maybe ya just need to spend a bunch on a 1911?

GJ1981
06-01-2011, 16:33
I had green/green Meps put onto my P2000.

My USP is from 1993 and had that setup, though I not sure if they used Meps then or not. I ended up with yellow/green on it now. My HK is the only pistol I own that had the sights go dead.

I dunno, I tracked down a P30S but think the price is a little high, $850. I should stop buying one of these days, but I have been preferring 9mm lately for all around use and always liked the P30's.

woodrowNC
06-01-2011, 17:38
i bought an early pro carry. flawless. sold it yrs later purchased another,would't run. sent it back twice. i don't think kimber makes bad guns.


just think i got a lemon. but i won't deal with them again. costomer service treated me like crap. with mass production, bad one's get through. i don't think kimber makes bad guns. i just got a bad one. happens to them all. machinist for 30 yrs. i know how the manufacturing process works. things slip thru. but i'm not a rude person, and i won't deal with one.

and the worst thing is, it had the best stock trigger i've ever felt on a production 1911. ever.

Cochese
06-02-2011, 10:03
No 1911 problems. All I have had are the Pro, EMP, 238 and a Custom II I got my dad.

My academy gun, a G22 and a used G26 I bought in 04-05 were problematic.

Texas Bulldog
06-02-2011, 10:08
Its a tossup between my Kimber CDP II and Remington R1. Both of them have given me tons of headaches. I sold the Remington and fixed the Kimber with a steel feed ramp.

Most reliable have been my STI Trojan and Fusion T-Comm... both have never ever given me a single issue.

GearGuru
06-02-2011, 11:04
PARA LDA P14: Gotta be the worst I ever had and service from Para just made it that much more intolerable.

okie
06-02-2011, 11:55
Springfield Mil Spec. It was my first 1911 and it was a huge Jam-O-Matic:alex:

rhino673
06-02-2011, 13:40
Auto ordanance/thompson full size 1911. It wouldn't feed hp's at all so off to the gun smith it goes. When I got it back it was about 50 percent reliable with certain brands of HP's.

Then I noticed after about 75-80 rounds (230gr fmj which was the only round I trusted in the gun) it would act like it was binding up and not go into full battery.

I got fed up with it and sold it at the next gun show. It was my fist 1911 and kind of soured me on them a little.

G27RR
06-02-2011, 17:14
Kimber Super Carry Pro, never sorted it out to be reliable enough for carry, and it came back from Kimber in worse condition than when I sent it off. It's the only 1911 I've ever sold.

My others have been good to go right from the start (4 STIs, 2 Colts, & a Springfield).

Jason D
06-02-2011, 19:27
Last year is was a Camp Perry model High Standard.
Now it's reliable to a fault. Even running different ammo staggered in the magazines.
185 grain short wadcutters, 200 grain wadcutters, 200 grain Speer Flying Ashtrays, ball ammo.... Not a problem for this gun. It was built as a strictly hardball gun.

Gary1911A1
06-03-2011, 08:50
AMT Hardballer. Pins sizes and locations out of spec, so it couldn't even be fixed to run reliably.

It was a great learning tool though! :cool:

Me too. Mine was a POS and while every maker of 1911s' puts out a lemon from time to time all the AMT Hardballers I've seen were terrible.:ack:

HexHead
06-03-2011, 08:53
Easiy the Springfield EMP I had for a very short time. It was even worse after it came back from SA.

ICEMAN28
06-03-2011, 09:53
was a colt 1991 a1. couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it if i was standing inside the barn. so much slop in the barrel link it was actually comical. 100 rounds of sheer hell.

after the second box, i put her up for sale. bought a para p-14 that i adored.

Its interesting you say this. My Colt 1991 (ORM) has been flawless. Its not the tightest pistol in the world, but is more accurate then I am, and the thing will even feed empty brass. I have gotten work done on it over the years, so I am sure thats helped a great deal. The only other experience i've had with a Colt was a freinds 1991 (nrm) and that thing was a POS!!! Accuracy was fine, but it had major feeding issues.

I dont know if I'm just lucky but I'm extremely happy with my 1991! Though if I was in the market for a new 1911, I'd probably go a different route though, just because of all the other options out there

KillStick
06-03-2011, 10:54
Springfield Loaded, P.S. the p2000 is a great gun.

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 11:10
...the p2000 is a great gun.

Yup.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/test011.jpg

FM12
06-03-2011, 11:36
Still have it: Safari Arms Escort model. But had been badly abuse by previous owner. Some tool had drilled two holes just behind the front sight for a compensator type set-up I guess and sems to have messed up the timing. Still nursing it. Outstanding when it works tho!
Best one was a Safari Arms also, a Matchmaster, from when they were in Arizona.

woodrowNC
06-03-2011, 15:08
My Kimber Pro Eclipse 2 was a total nightmare. Every 3rd round had a malfunction, FTE, failure to go into battery, faliure to eject. It didn't matter what kind of ammuntion I tried, nor what kind of magazine. After 600 rounds or so I was able to get it to have a malfunction once every magazine. But when I tried to rapid fire it, the magazine would eject. After about 750 rounds, I sent it back to Kimber. Got it back, and lo and behold, a stovepipe at the 4th round, and failure to feed on the 5th and 7th. After 50 rounds of that I cleaned it and traded it.

My Gold Cup functions flawlessly with whatever kind of ammunition I use, as long as I use only Colt mags. Anything after market, Kimber, Wilson, McCormick, Taurus, and GI, I get constant FTE's . But Colt mags work great. Anyone have any idea why that might be?

metalform?

woodrowNC
06-03-2011, 15:13
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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Colt%201911%20WWI%201918/COLTTOILET2.jpg



cute, but very inaccurate.

GJ1981
06-03-2011, 16:28
Yup.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/test011.jpg

P30's are cooler, :tongueout:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2pzfoz7.jpg

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 16:35
Yeah, but I got my P2K for $100 cheaper, and it carries waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than your "cooler" P30.













That said, I'd :hearts: to get a P30. :tongueout:

GJ1981
06-03-2011, 16:40
Yeah, but I got my P2K for $100 cheaper, and it carries waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than your "cooler" P30.




Maybe it wasn't $100 more, muhahaha. I got a good deal on it, plus it has real night sights over those luminous sights HK usually uses.

I wouldn't know about how it carries yet since I will need a holster and at least 1000 rounds through it first. Still using my trusty Glock 19, :shocked:

Fedor
06-03-2011, 16:49
It seems that most 1911's are temperamental, that's why I am hesitant to buy another one.

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 16:54
Maybe it wasn't $100 more, muhahaha. I got a good deal on it, plus it has real night sights over those luminous sights HK usually uses.

I wouldn't know about how it carries yet since I will need a holster and at least 1000 rounds through it first. Still using my trusty Glock 19, :shocked:

You SOB. I knew you wouldn't wait to get one. Congrats bro.

If for some strange reason I offloaded my KC, I wouldn't hesitate to go back to a P2000 for carry, and a P30L with a X300 for the nightstand.

drc767
06-03-2011, 17:18
Me too. Mine was a POS and while every maker of 1911s' puts out a lemon from time to time all the AMT Hardballers I've seen were terrible.:ack:

Agreed 100%!! I had a Hardballer years ago....we would bet a dollar a round to see if it would have a malfunction. Biggest POS ever. I also had a Nighthawk T3 that was a total FAIL!! I lost my ass on it, because I got so fed up with the malfunctions. It took me a long time to get over that one.....

GJ1981
06-03-2011, 18:53
You SOB. I knew you wouldn't wait to get one. Congrats bro.

If for some strange reason I offloaded my KC, I wouldn't hesitate to go back to a P2000 for carry, and a P30L with a X300 for the nightstand.

Of course I bought it, I'm impulsive at times. I've been thinking about a new HK for years. I was torn between a HK 45 and the P30, and since I'm thinking seriously about making 9mm my main caliber, it made sense to get the P30.

The P30L is sweet, I would have taken one if that's what was available. HK's are hard to come by locally for some reason, so I wasn't too picky. I kinda wanted a LEM trigger for the consistent pull, but think 1000-1500 rounds will help me out. 100 down.

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 18:59
Of course I bought it, I'm impulsive at times. I've been thinking about a new HK for years. I was torn between a HK 45 and the P30, and since I'm thinking seriously about making 9mm my main caliber, it made sense to get the P30.

The P30L is sweet, I would have taken one if that's what was available. HK's are hard to come by locally for some reason, so I wasn't too picky. I kinda wanted a LEM trigger for the consistent pull, but think 1000-1500 rounds will help me out. 100 down.

The locals in here will call me insane, but I'm with you. I would totally be cool with going back to HK and only 9mm. No problem whatsoever.

GJ1981
06-03-2011, 19:05
The locals in here will call me insane, but I'm with you. I would totally be cool with going back to HK and only 9mm. No problem whatsoever.

I don't worry about it, you have to go with what works; whether it's a crowd favorite or not. I'm carrying my Glock 19 now for a few reasons, it's not the best looking or most accurate pistol I own, but it goes BANG when I need it to. Can't ask for more.

My only gripe with HK's are the triggers tend to be gritty. I might have mine smoothed out if 2000 or so rounds doesn't make a difference.

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 19:12
I don't worry about it, you have to go with what works; whether it's a crowd favorite or not. I'm carrying my Glock 19 now for a few reasons, it's not the best looking or most accurate pistol I own, but it goes BANG when I need it to. Can't ask for more.

My only gripe with HK's are the triggers tend to be gritty. I might have mine smoothed out if 2000 or so rounds doesn't make a difference.

I've heard the Bowie work that LAV spec'd makes a big difference.

The HK P30 to the left shows the full Vicker's Package, which includes trigger over travel stop, trigger guard trench removal, mag release radius and 360 grip stippling.

Cost for full pkg. $175.00
http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/sitebuilder/images/HK_P30_full_view-353x271.jpg

drc767
06-03-2011, 19:43
I've heard the Bowie work that LAV spec'd makes a big difference.

The HK P30 to the left shows the full Vicker's Package, which includes trigger over travel stop, trigger guard trench removal, mag release radius and 360 grip stippling.

Cost for full pkg. $175.00
http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/sitebuilder/images/HK_P30_full_view-353x271.jpg

Great pistol, but I could never warm up to that damn mag release.

G27RR
06-03-2011, 19:47
Great pistol, but I could never warm up to that damn mag release.

I actually love it. I'd like a P30 to go with my USP someday.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/HK%20USP%2040/IMG_2022.jpg

Hokie1911
06-03-2011, 19:49
Great pistol, but I could never warm up to that damn mag release.

I actually really like the HK mag release. Don't you have a Bowie Glock?

drc767
06-03-2011, 19:57
I actually really like the HK mag release. Don't you have a Bowie Glock?

A couple of them.....G21 and G17

Boxerglocker
06-03-2011, 20:06
Only unreliable pistol I have had so far is my Glock 17. Everything else has been pretty flawless "Knock on wood"

I see it's a 4th Gen G17 by your signature.

BuckyP
06-03-2011, 20:07
The locals in here will call me insane, but I'm with you. I would totally be cool with going back to HK and only 9mm. No problem whatsoever.


I love my P2000, but why the heck they sight them in the way they do?? :steamed: Not much in the way of aftermarket options either. I switched from the P2000 to the G30 for carry after doing qualification drills at 25 yards. Was drilling the X with the G30 (and Warren Tactical sights) and shooting 5" low with the P2000.

Great pistol, but I could never warm up to that damn mag release.

Love the mag release. Don't have to change my grip (just use the trigger finger). Also, no risk of bumping the mag button accidentally when doing flashlight work and the like.

CMG
06-03-2011, 21:39
Interesting.

I always had to shift my grip to drop the mag on my USP 40. With my middle finger snugged up against the trigger guard (and mag release), I could not push down on the release far enough without shifting my fingers down.

bigdave101
06-03-2011, 21:54
my colt govt model,and springfield mil spec have both been super,no jams or problems. Love the 1911a1, but also love my sig 220, and h&k usp... .45acp is what I trust.

cdunn
06-04-2011, 05:08
kimber tactical pro turd

GJ1981
06-04-2011, 06:37
I've heard the Bowie work that LAV spec'd makes a big difference.

The HK P30 to the left shows the full Vicker's Package, which includes trigger over travel stop, trigger guard trench removal, mag release radius and 360 grip stippling.

Cost for full pkg. $175.00
http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/sitebuilder/images/HK_P30_full_view-353x271.jpg

He was pretty much the only place I was thinking for the work. I've heard of a few others but they are either not taking work or had a few questionable stories.

I don't know about the stippling. I wouldn't mind it on my Glock but feel that HK did a good job on the texture. The only real problem is his sites claims 16-24 weeks for the work. I don't want a repeat of getting a new pistol and being without it for weeks, if not months.

Hokie1911
06-04-2011, 06:42
He was pretty much the only place I was thinking for the work. I've heard of a few others but they are either not taking work or had a few questionable stories.

I don't know about the stippling. I wouldn't mind it on my Glock but feel that HK did a good job on the texture. The only real problem is his sites claims 16-24 weeks for the work. I don't want a repeat of getting a new pistol and being without it for weeks, if not months.

Yeah, I just read that lead time last night too and was like "damn". The other reason that I initially went P2k over P30 (the -$100 wasn't really a factor) is that the grip was a tad shorter and would conceal better. That and I hear the grip will absolutely shred your skin carrying IWB. That said, the grip on the P30 is hands down the best grip I've ever felt on a handgun.

GJ1981
06-04-2011, 06:49
The other reason that I initially went P2k over P30 (the -$100 wasn't really a factor) is that the grip was a tad shorter and would conceal better. That and I hear the grip will absolutely shred your skin carrying IWB. That said, the grip on the P30 is hands down the best grip I've ever felt on a handgun.

The grip is a little longer on the P30 for some reason, but I'd say it falls between a Glock 19 and 17. It's not a big deal to me. Now, the HK 45 has a HUGE grip even when in my bear claws.

I always wear an undershirt anyway and have never had issues with my side getting rubbed, even with aggressive grips like the golfball styles or VZ's. I think HK got it right, not too much and not too little.

Hokie1911
06-04-2011, 06:56
13 vs 15 in the magazine I believe. Not a big deal.

Also started wearing an undershirt under everything now (normally just polos) and tuck it behind the guard of my VM2. It's gotten pretty warm here recently and I don't want all that sweat working it's way under my grips and so forth.

woodrowNC
06-04-2011, 09:03
the pos kimber i traded for a 1993 w german p220. with full disclosure. the 220 had an issue itself. sometimes it wouldn't reset the trigger. but, i just happened to know there's a v shaped coiled spring called a trigger reset spring and after tearing it down, he he, thats what is was. now it's 100 percent and i've got a pistol i've always wanted.

GJ1981
06-04-2011, 09:56
Also started wearing an undershirt under everything now (normally just polos) and tuck it behind the guard of my VM2. It's gotten pretty warm here recently and I don't want all that sweat working it's way under my grips and so forth.

In my years of carrying I've only had one pistol develop rust, a S&W 36. But with my transition back to polymer frames for CCW, I'm not concerned with rust.

As for the comfort issues during the heat, it sucks at times, but just something I've learned to deal with.

farscott
06-04-2011, 17:14
My most unreliable 1911 was a Colt "frank-n-gun" I bought that came with an enhanced Combat Elite slide on a stainless non-enhanced Colt frame. The dealer tried to pass it off as a factory Combat Elite but I pointed out that the serial number did not begin with a "CG" and the frame was non-enhanced. So there was lots of haggling, but I still should have walked away. Yes, I am a sucker for the prancing pony. When I finally got it for what I considered to be a fair price, it would not chamber a round from slide lock unless it was loaded with ball ammo. A little work on the barrel solved that issue. So it was ready to shoot -- or so I thought.

At the range, I noticed it was still a reluctant feeder. I thought the magazines were sitting a bit low, so I replaced the magazine catch. Another range trip ensued. That fixed the feeding. Yet enough range trip to try it happened. It then ejected erratically -- if it did. Traced that down to the extractor. Tried to retension it; that did not work. Put in a Wilson Bulletproof, and it became a shooter -- sorta.

The gun probably never got through 50 rounds without a bobble. I finally sold it to a buddy who swore he could make it reliable. Not sure he ever did as he does not like to talk about the gun.

I guess 1911s get a bad rap due to a fair amount of "bubba" smithing.