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minderasr
06-04-2011, 09:53
...and seeing that I'm a total noob to this platform, I need some guidance. I noticed most manufacturers reference Colts (Commander, Gov't Model, officer) when it comes to components, holsters, etc. What would be my reference point for this weapon?

With regard to magazines, I've read that I should stick with seven rounders and avoid the eights. Is this true? What brand of magazine should I be looking at?

And finally, what is the general consensus for both IWB and OWB holsters for concealed carry of the 1911?

Thanks guys, I appreciate whatever advice I can get.

Three-Five-Seven
06-04-2011, 10:03
it's a 1911, so anything made for a 1911 will work.

Chip McCormick are the most popular around here. I love mine, for two reasons. One, they work. Two, they are very easy to disassemble for cleaning (I drop mine in the dirt during competition). They are 8 round magazines.

My contribution to the general consensus is that a 1911 is easy to conceal, but too damned heavy to carry.

okie
06-04-2011, 10:09
For holsters go here:thumbsup:

http://www.sethsgunleather.com/

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/100_0136.jpg

lawdog734
06-04-2011, 10:10
You'll want the government size equipment. As for mags I like Wilson, Tripp, and McCormick. Holsters just depends on what you like. Most seem to prefer leather and others kydex. Welcome to the club by the way.

BWT
06-04-2011, 10:12
Yours would be like the Gov't Model or 5". For me (ref mags), Wilson is the best and I have total confidence in both the 7 and 8 round configurations. I keep the 7 round in the 1911 and the two spare are 8 rounds and on the gun belt. I have never carried the 1911 off duty, as its just a little too big for me to carry concealed comfortably. Lately the 1911 has become more of a house and range pistol and my Glock 30SF for daily use.

CMG
06-04-2011, 11:15
Checkmate and KimPro Tac mags are my favorite mags. They are very well made, have removable base-plates and run great for me.

ptmccain
06-04-2011, 14:03
KimPro Tac mags are my favorite mags.

Ditto. Mine work very well, and I like the base pad options that come with it, which, for the money, are the best deal going if you need an extended base pad. I added a mag well to my SA Loaded and they work great.

Glenn's Outdoors has them on sale now, and they have both 8 and 7 round mags in stock. Here's a link. (http://www.glensoutdoors.com/Kimber-KimPro-Tac-Mag-45-8-Round-Stainless-p/1100721a.htm)

Happy Hunting
06-04-2011, 14:43
Wilson 47D backups, Wilson 47DC in the tube. You could also get Wilson springs and followers for the mags (9 bucks) that came with your Ruger.

Never had a problem with the 8 rounders and don't think I will.

As far as holsters go... My pretty IWB is a Ritchie stakeout, and my IDPA setup is a Texas Gunleather.

I don't carry spare mags unless I'm playing some kind of game. Oh, I meant training.

minderasr
06-04-2011, 16:08
Glenn's Outdoors has them on sale now, and they have both 8 and 7 round mags in stock. Here's a link. (http://www.glensoutdoors.com/Kimber-KimPro-Tac-Mag-45-8-Round-Stainless-p/1100721a.htm)

Wow that's a great price. I don't think I can pass that one up.

Thanks to all who've responded. I really appreciate the suggestions. Keep'em coming!

I forgot to mention, I have a bunch of holsters for my Glocks. I'm partial to the Cross Breed for IWB and a DeSantis speed scabbard for OWB. I also have Super Tuck, Raven, Blackhawk CQC, and Milt Sparks VM2 holsters. The Jury is still out on the Raven, but the others will probably find their way to the classified section sooner or later.

bac1023
06-04-2011, 17:10
For holsters go here:thumbsup:

http://www.sethsgunleather.com/

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/100_0136.jpg

Nice looking rig, okie. :)

minderasr
06-30-2011, 18:43
Ordered and received my monkeygrips (thanks Larry!) today.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BDhCio5EDN4/Tg0D2ZZTrTI/AAAAAAAAASU/h2r-1Xph5K4/SR1911-4.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ouf4LyWlzqU/Tg0D2QTWW7I/AAAAAAAAASY/7MK3U0VIC70/SR1911-5.JPG

HotRoderX
06-30-2011, 19:03
Very nice looking grips they look great on the Ruger Grats

Hokie1911
06-30-2011, 19:20
it's a 1911, so anything made for a 1911 will work.Chip McCormick are the most popular around here. I love mine, for two reasons. One, they work. Two, they are very easy to disassemble for cleaning (I drop mine in the dirt during competition). They are 8 round magazines.

My contribution to the general consensus is that a 1911 is easy to conceal, but too damned heavy to carry.

Not true. He needs to get Gov't model specific mags, grips, etc. Not just "anyting made for a 1911".

Mix in some whey protein shakes and/or hit the gym, Nancy. :nsb:

Hokie1911
06-30-2011, 19:22
Ordered and received my monkeygrips (thanks Larry!) today.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BDhCio5EDN4/Tg0D2ZZTrTI/AAAAAAAAASU/h2r-1Xph5K4/SR1911-4.JPG

Congrats on the Ruger. Larry's Horned Lizards make just about any 1911 look better. :supergrin:

bac1023
06-30-2011, 19:23
Ordered and received my monkeygrips (thanks Larry!) today.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BDhCio5EDN4/Tg0D2ZZTrTI/AAAAAAAAASU/h2r-1Xph5K4/SR1911-4.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ouf4LyWlzqU/Tg0D2QTWW7I/AAAAAAAAASY/7MK3U0VIC70/SR1911-5.JPG

Congrats! :cool:

Hokie1911
06-30-2011, 19:24
I forgot to mention, I have a bunch of holsters for my Glocks. I'm partial to the Cross Breed for IWB and a DeSantis speed scabbard for OWB. I also have Super Tuck, Raven, Blackhawk CQC, and Milt Sparks VM2 holsters. The Jury is still out on the Raven, but the others will probably find their way to the classified section sooner or later.

This...

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/carrystuff002.jpg

CMG
06-30-2011, 20:23
...and seeing that I'm a total noob to this platform, I need some guidance. I noticed most manufacturers reference Colts (Commander, Gov't Model, officer) when it comes to components, holsters, etc. What would be my reference point for this weapon?

With regard to magazines, I've read that I should stick with seven rounders and avoid the eights. Is this true? What brand of magazine should I be looking at?

And finally, what is the general consensus for both IWB and OWB holsters for concealed carry of the 1911?

Thanks guys, I appreciate whatever advice I can get.

In terms of parts compatibility, it is equivalent to a Colt Series 70 Government Model.

Many 8-round mags work just fine, I have particularly good luck with the Kim-Pro Tac mags.

I prefer Don Hume leather for an IWB holster.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Fun/PCCH9mm.jpg

knedrgr
06-30-2011, 21:54
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Fun/PCCH9mm.jpg


Reminds me of the Russian dolls. :rofl:

CMG
06-30-2011, 23:07
Reminds me of the Russian dolls. :rofl:

I have a set of those as well, but they are painted like Santa, so they only get out in December! :supergrin:

minderasr
07-01-2011, 07:58
This...

To be honest, I'm not a fan of the VM2. I prefer the Supertuck, finding it much more comfortable. I'm leaning heavily towards a pancake style speed scabbard for OWB at the moment.

okie
07-01-2011, 08:41
Nice looking rig, okie. :)

Thanks, Brian:thumbsup:

sns3guppy
07-01-2011, 12:47
My contribution to the general consensus is that a 1911 is easy to conceal, but too damned heavy to carry.

One of the great attributes of the 1911 is it's flatness; it's works really well inside the waistband. I submit that a steel government model isn't too big to conceal or carry, but any of the lightweights are comfortable and not heavy at all.

I usually carry a Sig P239, but also often carry a DW CCO. The CCO isn't heavy at all, and it carries very comfortably. The 1911's are flat and thin, like the P239, such that they disappear easily in the waistband, and they tend to be a lot more comfortable for daily wear than some of the blockier designs out there.

FLIPPER 348
07-01-2011, 18:44
My contribution to the general consensus is that a 1911 is easy to conceal, but too damned heavy to carry.


It was never designed to be 'carried' but rather a military sidearm in an exposed hip holster. There are SO many better options to CCW!

RedsoxFan4Lyfe
07-01-2011, 19:35
I prefer and use Wilson 47D mags in my 1911's exclusively. Colt factory mags were always good too for me. Chip McCormick mags always ran flawlessly too.

I just prefer the Wilson mags.

Now on to carry issues...
I carried the 1911 in a 5" all steel configuration for years now. A quality holster is absolutely essential. Now that being said. Not all holsters work for all people. What works great for me, might not work as well for you or at all for you. Body types are all different etc.

Now the biggest thing is the belt. The belt is the most important part of your carry gear. The best holster on earth is not going to support the gun comfortably without a top notch gun belt. Do not cheap out on the belt. I see many people with high end holsters, but cheap belts, or belts not even made for carry at all. I dont get it personally.

I have a rafters gunleather belt that is seven years old and look near new. I use it daily. I also have a Ken Null belt and a Ken Null UNS holster or two. Very good stuff. I like Milt Sparks Summer Special 2 IWB holsters as well. All are excellent.

I have had a Max Con V and it was extremely well made and beautiful and worth the wait, for me however on my body type it just wasnt comfortable for me, so I sold it.

Get the best belt you can afford. They will last a lifetime and pay for themselves every day when you carry in secure and complete comfort. You buy quality but one time.

I currently carry a Wilson CQB 4" all steel 1911 in comfort all day in nothing more than jeans, or shorts and a t-shirt. I have never been made and i forget its there at times. The belt and holster are everything.

Hope this helps you out.

dregotglock
07-02-2011, 08:22
...and seeing that I'm a total noob to this platform, I need some guidance. I noticed most manufacturers reference Colts (Commander, Gov't Model, officer) when it comes to components, holsters, etc. What would be my reference point for this weapon?

With regard to magazines, I've read that I should stick with seven rounders and avoid the eights. Is this true? What brand of magazine should I be looking at?

And finally, what is the general consensus for both IWB and OWB holsters for concealed carry of the 1911?

Thanks guys, I appreciate whatever advice I can get.



Govt model is what you are looking for when shopping -

I personally use act mags and powermags both 8 rounders without issue.
Midway has a current deal on powermags right now.

You will get a huge variation of answers on the mag question. Some say 7 vs 8 rounders - some say wilson vs mec vs chips powermags etc. I like ACT because it came with the firearm and it works great so I picked up another one, but I also wanted to give another brand a try as well - went with powermags because his company is based in Texas (I try to support local business).

Concealed carry - a good gun belt is going to make a huge difference in comfort. I can not say this enough. It is just as important as the holster you choose. OWB vs IWB is going to subjective. I personally perfer to carry OWB because I find it more comfortable and I can conceal it that way.

ptmccain
07-02-2011, 08:28
This has been a helpful and informative thread, for me, particularly the remarks about the importance of a gun belt.

The reason I prefer the 1911 for concealed carry is that it is thin.

minderasr
07-02-2011, 21:39
I agree about a good belt being as important as a good holster. I actually own a belt from The Belt Man (http://www.thebeltman.net/). Ordered a DeSantis Speed Scabbard (http://www.desantisholster.com/store/SEARCH-BY-GUN-MANUFACTURER/COLT/GOVERNMENT-MODEL-45cal/BELT-HOLSTERS/Speed-Scabbard) for OWB carry.

woodrowNC
07-02-2011, 22:20
For holsters go here:thumbsup:

http://www.sethsgunleather.com/

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/okie1911/100_0136.jpg

i like that, Okie. i think he's gonna get some of my money when i ever get anymore.

woodrowNC
07-02-2011, 22:24
This...

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/carrystuff002.jpg

what brand holster, Hokie. i like it. i wear my shirtail out so much i normally wear a yaqui slide. unnoticeable. but that's with the New Agent.

knedrgr
07-02-2011, 22:25
^ Milt Sparks Versa Max 2.

woodrowNC
07-02-2011, 22:37
^ Milt Sparks Versa Max 2.

thanks, Knedrgr. i've gotta get something comfy for the colt and springer.
i'm outdoors alot and the slide is ok, very comfortable, but not quite as secure feeling as i'd like. even with the tension screw.

knedrgr
07-02-2011, 23:39
No problem.

Personally, I think it's one of the top IWB leather holster. But then, holsters are very personal, since not everyone is built the same way.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2861546e.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/DW-CCO.jpg


Better get your order in, since they only take it at the beginning of each month. And the wait is like 6 months.

http://www.miltsparks.com/

There are other makers that makes similar holster design, so you can look around.

woodrowNC
07-03-2011, 00:40
No problem.

Personally, I think it's one of the top IWB leather holster. But then, holsters are very personal, since not everyone is built the same way.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2861546e.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/DW-CCO.jpg


Better get your order in, since they only take it at the beginning of each month. And the wait is like 6 months.

http://www.miltsparks.com/

There are other makers that makes similar holster design, so you can look around.

6 mths? geez. you're right about the personal thing. the reason i wear otwb is because i'm skin and bone in the hip area. can't find anything comfortable. since i'm a little thin in the waist, i've thought about wearing at 11 or 1 o'clock, but i'm a little paranoid about have it pointing at my johnson. thanks.
btw, nice looking pistol.

knedrgr
07-03-2011, 11:25
Thanks! There are other makers that makes similar design, so you can try them out.

Ruggles
07-03-2011, 12:23
Keep an eye on Lighting Arms Sports, they sell the VMIIs as they get them in. I have purchased two from the so far with no wait. You have to check daily as they sell out the same day they get them in.

Mr. Gekko
07-03-2011, 12:38
Keep an eye on Lighting Arms Sports, they sell the VMIIs as they get them in. I have purchased two from the so far with no wait. You have to check daily as they sell out the same day they get them in.

I just checked them out. The website says this.

Lightning Arms Sports will no longer be ordering Milt Sparks products and have ceased all business relations. This website page will remain intact until a majority of in-stock product has been sold.

knedrgr
07-03-2011, 13:13
Keep an eye on Lighting Arms Sports, they sell the VMIIs as they get them in. I have purchased two from the so far with no wait. You have to check daily as they sell out the same day they get them in.

I just checked them out. The website says this.

Lightning Arms Sports will no longer be ordering Milt Sparks products and have ceased all business relations. This website page will remain intact until a majority of in-stock product has been sold.

Bought my first VM2 from LAS, and they were excellent to deal with.

And since then, they've ceased to be a MS dealer. I guess there were some type of business indifference between those two. The majority of the stock are mostly left-handed models.

And to boot, LAS is not putting them on sale...so the stock has been sitting.

minderasr
07-04-2011, 15:03
Quick question about grips. I noticed since adding the monkeygrips that the screws loosen while shooting. Should one use a bit of locktite on the screws? I'm concerned about over-tightening the screws and cracking the grips.

TIA

Rinspeed
07-07-2011, 12:10
Quick question about grips. I noticed since adding the monkeygrips that the screws loosen while shooting. Should one use a bit of locktite on the screws?



A small drop of blue locktite works good but you have to get the screws and bushings pretty clean or there's a chance the locktite won't work.

Hokie1911
07-07-2011, 12:17
A small drop of red locktite works good but you have to get the screws and bushings pretty clean or there's a chance the locktite won't work.

As Jeff said......red Loctite. RED RED RED. :supergrin:

minderasr
07-07-2011, 17:15
I found a post on another forum which recommended #36 o-rings (5/16" OD x 3/16" ID x 1/16" thick). They fit the screws perfectly, but they're no longer flush with the grips. I'll see how this works before attempting the BLUE Loctite (I may look stupid, but I'm no fool!). :)

Thanks guys.

dakota1911
07-07-2011, 20:03
As a point of reference, the three sizes of guns Colt sells right now are the full size Government size with full size grip and 5 inch barrel, which would be the same size as the Ruger SR1911. That is on top in the form of a Gold Cup National Match (GCNM). Then there is the Commander size with the full size grip and 4.25 inch barrel (Other makers have similar guns with 4 inch barrels). Finally is the Compact size, in this case a Defender with an "Officers length" grip and 3 inch barrel. No longer made and not pictured was the Colt Officer with the short grip and 3.5 inch barrel.
And to confuse everyone Colt has made models in the past with the short grip and Commander slide, or long grip and short slide.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/dakota1911/Colt_Ajax_r.jpg

ptmccain
07-09-2011, 07:40
A buddy of mine, somehow, acquired a Colt Officer years ago and has hardly shot it, keeps it in the box it came in. I'm taking him out to the range again in a few days. We went out a few months ago with it and put about 100 rounds through it. Shoots very nice.

I asked him, "Have you ever cleaned it or lubed it?"

He said,"Nope, I didn't know how to take it down."

I'm going to learn him some 1911 basics.

:)

minderasr
07-09-2011, 12:54
So any tweaks I should be doing to the SR1911 to make it better? I mean besides shooting the heck out of it (600 rounds to date).

fowler
07-11-2011, 13:51
I too like flatness and thin and you are right the 1911 and Sig 239,P-6 shine here. In the 1911 the full size 5" Colt and smaller I prefer the SiG 239 9mm for compact carry in the summer with cotton button shirt out. Less than 5" full size 1911 have not been reliable for me. The SIG 239 has been 100% reliable with super accuracy out to 50 yards. The double stack G19 and Sig 226-228 are to fat for me. As for doing anything to your combat carrygun I would leave it bone stock. I prefer mine all stock with enough ammo to break it in right. Buy a good Galco Holster .

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 15:59
With regard to magazines, I've read that I should stick with seven rounders and avoid the eights. Is this true? What brand of magazine should I be looking at?

Not true. There are plenty of 8-rounders that feed great.

I prefer Mec-Gar mags. After fooling around with Wilson, Chip McCormick, Military Issued, Metalform/Colt mags, I prefer Mec-Gar the best. Well made, stout, feed smoother than a baby's ass.

nastytrigger
07-11-2011, 16:29
So any tweaks I should be doing to the SR1911 to make it better? I mean besides shooting the heck out of it (600 rounds to date).

If you've mentioned it, sorry, but have tried your favorite hollowpoints through it yet?

As far as holsters, for concealment, I do a OWB Don Hume H710 belt holster for $30 + shipping. Simple, sturdy, holster that can be hidden by a loose t-shirt.:
http://www.donhume.com/images/large/2008/H710_web_LRG.jpg

For open carry, I do a Blackhawk Serpa with the paddle attachment:
http://www.patriotoutfitters.com/img/products/17300/17372.gif

(both pics aren't my guns, just internet photos)

For mags, I like Chip McCormick and Wilson 47D's. Get some more range time and enjoy :supergrin:

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 16:33
6 mths?

Four-and-a-half months wait for me. I placed my order with them in February, and two weeks ago they called and said my holsters & accessories are ready.

Yes, I could have gotten similar holsters from somebody else for maybe third of the time, or bought off-the-shelf. However, I wanted Milt Sparks and the wait is part of the package. I've waited six months for El Paso Saddlery holsters & accessories before. But I digress.

With Milt Sparks, you don't get a stupid answering machine but a person to answer your questions. The sales rep would go through your order and points out any discrepancies that you may have made, or make helpful hints & suggestions. I wanted my finish to be cordovan because I have plenty of tan and black. They warned me up front that some of the cordovan finishes don't exactly match up and I told them that's fine. A bit of character.

They're moving this week to a new location and I can't get away from work soon enough to go to their shop for pickup. Guess what? Jim suggested that he would meet me in the evening somewhere in between his and my commutes to hand delivery my stuff. How many people would do that?

Hell, even the prices aren't all that bad.

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 16:39
i'm outdoors alot and the slide is ok, very comfortable, but not quite as secure feeling as i'd like. even with the tension screw.

I don't trust tension screws for outdoors carry. Just get something with a hammer thong or a strap with thumb snap.

Here's my .38 Super with the El Paso Saddlery Austin holster. It comes with either a hammer thong or a strap. I don't like the strap, so I specified the hammer thong.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Colt%2038%20Super/BernardelliP018002.jpg

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 16:42
As far as holsters, for concealment, I do a OWB Don Hume H710 belt holster for $30 + shipping. Simple, sturdy, holster that can be hidden by a loose t-shirt.:


I have a Targa Leathers holster from Paraguay. It's also around $30. Not the prettiest thing in the world, but it's fairly well made and for the price it's hard to beat.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Colt%20100%20Anniversary/ColtCentauroBlackLeather3.jpg

nastytrigger
07-11-2011, 16:43
I don't trust tension screws for outdoors carry. Just get something with a hammer thong or a strap with thumb snap.

Here's my .38 Super with the El Paso Saddlery Austin holster. It comes with either a hammer thong or a strap. I don't like the strap, so I specified the hammer thong.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Colt%2038%20Super/BernardelliP018002.jpg

LOL. Hammer thong...
http://images0.cafepress.com/product/440489420v3_150x150_Front.jpg

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 16:48
Here's an OWB holster from El Paso Saddlery. It's called the No. 88 Street Combat. Very slim and comfortable yet reasonably priced. There's a metal band around the muzzle that acts as a retentioner. You squeeze the band in to make it tight...believe you me, you can make it pretty tight. I still won't trust it for outdoors carry without a positive retention device though.

I've been an El Paso Saddlery customer for twenty years now, but lately I've been trying out some off-the-shelf stuff from Bianchi, Galco and now Targa.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/EPSaddleryColtGSP2.jpg

minderasr
07-11-2011, 18:58
If you've mentioned it, sorry, but have tried your favorite hollowpoints through it yet?

Not necessarily my favorite hollowpoints, but I did fire a box (50) of Winchester White Box Personal Protection JHPs (USA45JHP) through it, without issue. Otherwise nothing but Federal FMJs, 600 rounds combined.

For OWB, I ordered a DeSantis Speed Scabbard but apparently it's back-ordered and another week or two away from shipping. :(

For IWB, I'm considering a Milt Sparks Summer Special 2. But I'm undecided yet.

fnfalman
07-11-2011, 21:46
For IWB, I'm considering a Milt Sparks Summer Special 2. But I'm undecided yet.

Not IWB, but here are some samples of Milt Sparks products. The color is cordovan.

The belt is hell stout and thick. The gun's model and belt loop size are stamped on the back of holsters and ammo pouches.

Tomorrow I'm going to place another order with Milt Sparks for the Hackathorn revolver hip holster and speed strip carriers.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Holsters/MiltSparks006.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Holsters/MiltSparks011.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Holsters/MiltSparks015.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Holsters/MiltSparks009.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Holsters/MiltSparks010.jpg