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.50 cal
06-07-2011, 20:43
Hello, I'm loading 124 frontier round nose plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup, I would love to know what you think the best OAL would be, the factory FMJ'S I have are about 1.155, is this a good overall length to follow? thanks

bigleaf
06-07-2011, 20:46
Round nose, truncated cone, hollow point... what's the bullet style?

.50 cal
06-07-2011, 20:47
Round nose, truncated cone, hollow point... what's the bullet style?

round nose

bigleaf
06-07-2011, 20:56
On 124 FMJ, with 4.2 of TiteGroup, I've used 1.09 with good results. Funny, since 115s and 147s both like 1.13 best. But that's what research led me to and what worked for me.

I love TG. The most accurate powder I've found, and economical, too. Just watch out for double charges. Any disruption while loading, dump 'em all out and start from station 1. Just sayin'.

Colorado4Wheel
06-07-2011, 21:00
I always loaded my FMJ RN 124 gr at 1.130. Your in the middle of the Hodgon Data for TG and they list a much shorter OAL. Look at the Hodgon Reloading Manual online to confirm your doing things right.

XDRoX
06-07-2011, 21:37
I load to 1.140".

cole
06-08-2011, 00:14
I load 124gr 9mm RNFMJ to 1.135".

shotgunred
06-08-2011, 06:25
what gun are you shooting them out of?
I like 1.125 for glocks.

XDRoX
06-08-2011, 07:06
what gun are you shooting them out of?
I like 1.125 for glocks.

Why so short? Glocks will eat 1.160" all day long. 1.145" runs fine in any of my seven 9mm's. Please, not an attack, just really want to know why you guys load so short:dunno:

rg1
06-08-2011, 08:56
I load 124 jacketed round nose to 1.150" except Winchester 124 jacketed round nose which has a more sharply pointed tip and I seat these to an oal of 1.160". They all feed and shoot well in 3 G19's, 2 Kel-Tec carbines, and a Ruger 9MM, not all mine.
My 124 gr. hollow points, Speer Gold Dot and Rem Golden Saber, get seated to 1.120-1.125".

Colorado4Wheel
06-08-2011, 10:54
Glock, Kahr. It generally doesn't matter at all with a common RN seated in the 1.130 range.

Colorado4Wheel
06-08-2011, 10:55
Why so short? Glocks will eat 1.160" all day long. 1.145" runs fine in any of my seven 9mm's. Please, not an attack, just really want to know why you guys load so short:dunno:

1.130 is not that short. It give a decent amount of bullet in the case for good tension. I don't think it makes a big difference.

RRTX11
06-08-2011, 11:41
I loaded and shot about 5k in rounds with the following load over the last few months:
4.1 gr TG
124 gr Montana Gold RN FMJ
1.30,1.40,1.50 OAL
I was getting an average of 130 PF with this load out of a Glock 17
Many people that shoot IDPA, IPSC, and USPSA locally use this load or one similar.

I liked the load and could not tell any significant difference between PF, feeding, and accuracy. Accurate load without 1 single missfeed or hiccup. I standardized all my 124 gr RN at 1.50 OAL to keep it simple.

I switched to N320 after experimenting with TG because....it is a little less snappy and I sometimes shoot 500 to 1000 rounds in a day and there HUGE difference between a glock with 1000 rounds of TG through it and one with 1000 rounds of N320 thru it. Liked TG other than that.

ron59
06-08-2011, 12:09
Why so short? Glocks will eat 1.160" all day long. 1.145" runs fine in any of my seven 9mm's. Please, not an attack, just really want to know why you guys load so short

I believe 1.169" is the absolute MAX, per the 9mm specifications. Guns may load that, maybe not. 1.160" is very close to that.

I've varied between 1.125" - 1.135", but I'm loading 147gr flat points, not RN. 35,000+ with no feed problems, so I guess it's okay ? :dunno:

OrGlocker
06-08-2011, 12:19
Hello, I'm loading 124 frontier round nose plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup, I would love to know what you think the best OAL would be, the factory FMJ'S I have are about 1.155, is this a good overall length to follow? thanks

Oh NO ! another Glockster using TIGHTGROUP, Fred is gonna go ballistic like an SSBN :rofl:

Boxerglocker
06-08-2011, 13:10
I loaded and shot about 5k in rounds with the following load over the last few months:
4.1 gr TG
124 gr Montana Gold RN FMJ
1.30,1.40,1.50 OAL
I was getting an average of 130 PF with this load out of a Glock 17
Many people that shoot IDPA, IPSC, and USPSA locally use this load or one similar.

I liked the load and could not tell any significant difference between PF, feeding, and accuracy. Accurate load without 1 single missfeed or hiccup. I standardized all my 124 gr RN at 1.50 OAL to keep it simple.

I switched to N320 after experimenting with TG because....it is a little less snappy and I sometimes shoot 500 to 1000 rounds in a day and there HUGE difference between a glock with 1000 rounds of TG through it and one with 1000 rounds of N320 thru it. Liked TG other than that.

I've been loading 4.1 TG at 1.135 OAL behind a 124 FMJ as my game gun load for years now. 1100 fps out of my G34 136 PF and will also easily make PF out of my G19 which is my IDPA backup gun for SSP.
I've tried N320 it is indeed a softer powder if your playing the PF floor level but more expensive and definately hard to get hold off in my area. However, I found once you get to the mid 130's and above with PF between the two powders little if any difference IMO.

shotgunred
06-08-2011, 16:45
Why so short? Glocks will eat 1.160" all day long. 1.145" runs fine in any of my seven 9mm's. Please, not an attack, just really want to know why you guys load so short:dunno:

1.125 is what ran best in my G23 20 years ago and I haven't changed it. I just standardized it for all my Glocks. When I picked up 9mm I played around some. But ended up with some cartridges that would jamb in just two of my mags. So I defaulted to what has worked in my other glocks for many tens of thousands rounds and haven't looked back.

They work and don't jamb.:cool:

Zombie Steve
06-08-2011, 17:04
Why wouldn't you go with the longest OAL that works for your gun?

RustyFN
06-08-2011, 17:27
I load 124 grain RN to 1.135.

fredj338
06-08-2011, 17:59
Oh NO ! another Glockster using TIGHTGROUP, Fred is gonna go ballistic like an SSBN :rofl:
Nope, staying out of this one. One TG thread at a time.:supergrin:

shotgunred
06-08-2011, 18:45
Why wouldn't you go with the longest OAL that works for your gun?

Why would you? The size I use works very well in my guns. The crono tells me I am were I want to be with my load. I am not using someone else's hot rod load and then running a shorter OAL. I am using a mild load that is very accurate in my gun.

I have well over 50 K of 40 and over 5K of 9 with this OAL.

ShaneS
06-09-2011, 12:15
I load 124 RN bullets to 1.150" for IDPA. Has worked great in my Glock 19, G17 and Beretta 92 for thousands of rounds. I have loaded as short as 1.140". I think WWB and NATO 124 measures 1.150-1.155"

SDGlock23
06-09-2011, 18:20
I usually stick to between 1.130-1.140" for pretty much all 9mm.

80819
06-09-2011, 18:53
If your rounds will fit in the mag and you can drop a round in your barrel and it can spin freely it will work. If they don't, you can shorten by 0.005 until your rounds fit. The longer you load, the less pressure you will have.

Aquagear
06-09-2011, 19:10
I use 3.9 to 4.0 gr in my Glock 34, and 19 at 1.095. I just chronoed them with a friend, they shoot great and make power factor in both guns. The reason I have to load so short is my KKM barrels have a very short lead so I backed off 2 tenths to compensate, works just fine. I have been using Titegroup for years in 38's and 45's with great success, as with any of the fine grained fast burning powders you have to watch out for a double charge, not just Titegroup.

Hoser
06-09-2011, 19:10
I use TG and 124s loaded to 1.145.

Billy_Ray
06-09-2011, 20:08
I load montana gold 124 grain FMJs with 4.2 grains of TG at 1.130 OAL. Runs very reliably.

Billy Ray