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widmn
06-08-2011, 20:19
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:22
Some people (like me) shoot and handle a 1911 MUCH better than a Glock. I can't stand carrying my Glocks, to be honest.

seanmac45
06-08-2011, 20:22
It's all about the trigger and the ergonomics. If you don't understand after firing one, then you probably will never like it.

HotRoderX
06-08-2011, 20:23
Some people (like me) shoot and handle a 1911 MUCH better than a Glock. I can't stand carrying my Glocks, to be honest.

Pretty much sums it up for me also. After shooting a 1911 then my Glock the difference is amazing

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:25
http://files.sharenator.com/I_smell_trolls_I_have_a_few_questions-s400x400-140415-535.jpg

bikewriter
06-08-2011, 20:26
If you were involved in a life or death situation (ginormously small chance) and needed more than 7 rounds of 45acp your job title probably has the words "hit man," "contractor" or "communications expert". Otherwise that ccw will probably never be used and if it was I doubt more than 1 round would be fired. Even if there were two trolls asking the same question.....

So that leaves me seeking a firearm I enjoy working on, can quickly field strip, find parts for and shoot all day at the range with a myriad of reloads.

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:26
http://files.sharenator.com/I_smell_trolls_I_have_a_few_questions-s400x400-140415-535.jpg

:rofl:

Hokie1911
06-08-2011, 20:26
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup:

Scamp
06-08-2011, 20:27
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mr. Gekko
06-08-2011, 20:28
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup:

:rofl:

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:28
BTW, friends that have polymer guns shoot the 1911's better from the first magazine they fire compared to the polymers that they own and practice with.

midliferally
06-08-2011, 20:28
:rofl: Thread/

widmn
06-08-2011, 20:29
Some people (like me) shoot and handle a 1911 MUCH better than a Glock. I can't stand carrying my Glocks, to be honest.

Wow. Can't stand carry a Glock?? Why is that??
And no I'm not a troll and I do enjoy shooting the 1911 more than the Glock, but still for Self defense, I like the number of rounds.

grizzly04
06-08-2011, 20:30
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks

Hokie1911
06-08-2011, 20:31
Wow. Can't stand carry a Glock?? Why is that??
And no I'm not a troll and I do enjoy shooting the 1911 more than the Glock, but still for Self defense, I like the number of rounds.

If I am in a self defense situation and I go through 7+1 and a reload of another 7.....I am screwed anyway.

Scamp
06-08-2011, 20:32
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks

Whatever works for you...

Mr. Gekko
06-08-2011, 20:32
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.


I feel like I just killed a few brain cells and visited the General Glocking forum.

Perhaps, just maybe, some people prefer a different platform instead of that "perfect" Glock.

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:33
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/2/8/128785921339621467.jpg

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:33
Wow. Can't stand carry a Glock?? Why is that??
And no I'm not a troll and I do enjoy shooting the 1911 more than the Glock, but still for Self defense, I like the number of rounds.

The number of rounds doesn't mean much to me. I'm comfortable with the 7+1 rounds in my Kimber.

To me Glocks are blocky and I don't feel nearly as proficient with the grip angle or trigger. I like a grip and thumb safety also.

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:34
Glock Perfection...Gen 5 coming to a gun shop near you :animlol:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:35
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks

Stick with your Glocks and stick with GENERAL GLOCKING. :wavey:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:35
Glock Perfection...Gen 5 coming to a gun shop near you :animlol:

:rofl:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:36
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup:

:animlol:

JoshC
06-08-2011, 20:36
i dont see an issue only having 7 or 8 rounds in a carry gun. if its ever pulled on someone, that person will either stop what theyre doing or if the gun is used on said person theyll be put down(assuming you can shoot accurately). youre not going to get into a fire fight like out of the movie "The Boondock Saints"

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:39
Wow. Can't stand carry a Glock?? Why is that??
And no I'm not a troll and I do enjoy shooting the 1911 more than the Glock, but still for Self defense, I like the number of rounds.

Then why are you asking bac1023 why he can't stand carrying a Glock? you just answered it yourself.

now do you carry a spare mag with your Glocks? if so that's added weight on the belt. if not then you are foolish because Murphy's Law will strike at the wrong time and the perfect Glock will have a magazine related failure, so you're hi-cap is not useless if the mag has a failure.

SK2344
06-08-2011, 20:42
I have a very simple answer to the 1911 question. I have owned many 1911's and many Glocks so I think my opinion is a valid one. I recently sold my last 1911 and replaced it with a Glock 36. IMO my Glock 36 with a 6+1 round count is hands down a better carry weapon than any 1911 could ever be. In my 14 years of owning and shooting Glocks, I have never ever had any type of malfunction. I now own a G30, G36, G19 and a G26 but my main carry gun is now the G36 with my G26 as my first option. Draw, point, shoot and it goes bang every time without fail. Do I need to say more!

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:44
I have a very simple answer to the 1911 question. I have owned many 1911's and many Glocks so I think my opinion is a valid one. I recently sold my last 1911 and replaced it with a Glock 36. IMO my Glock 36 with a 6+1 round count is hands down a better carry weapon than any 1911 could ever be. In my 14 years of owning and shooting Glocks, I have never ever had any type of malfunction. I now own a G30, G36, G19 and a G26 but my main carry gun is now the G36 with my G26 as my first option. Draw, point, shoot and it goes bang every time without fail. Do I need to say more!

After 3+ years, this is your first post?

knedrgr
06-08-2011, 20:45
:popcorn::drink:

Hokie1911
06-08-2011, 20:45
After 3+ years, this is your first post?

...and posting in here? :dunno:

knedrgr
06-08-2011, 20:47
maybe he lost his password... :rofl:

HotRoderX
06-08-2011, 20:47
I have a very simple answer to the 1911 question. I have owned many 1911's and many Glocks so I think my opinion is a valid one. I recently sold my last 1911 and replaced it with a Glock 36. IMO my Glock 36 with a 6+1 round count is hands down a better carry weapon than any 1911 could ever be. In my 14 years of owning and shooting Glocks, I have never ever had any type of malfunction. I now own a G30, G36, G19 and a G26 but my main carry gun is now the G36 with my G26 as my first option. Draw, point, shoot and it goes bang every time without fail. Do I need to say more!

Everyone experience is different. My Glock 17 Gen4 did not go bang ever time and just recently is working 100%. It took money and time to fix it. My RIA 1911 so far has gone bang ever time I pull the trigger with zero jams. I bet there are plenty of guys on here who own 1911's who have had them go bang ever time the trigger is pulled. I bet they have owned other guns that have not gone bang and vice verse. Its really a perception thing and what your more comfortable with.

Quack
06-08-2011, 20:47
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/111/111152/pages/256537/TrollBGon.gif

Ruggles
06-08-2011, 20:47
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks

A time bomb with a 100+ year fuse I guess :tongueout:

Mr. Gekko
06-08-2011, 20:47
I have a very simple answer to the 1911 question. I have seen many 1911's and many Glocks so I think my opinion is a valid one. IMO, Glock 36 with a 6+1 round count is hands down a better carry weapon than any 1911 could ever be. In my 14 years of playing video games, I have never ever had any type of malfunction. Draw, point, shoot and it goes bang every time without fail. Do I need to say more!

I fixed it for ya. :supergrin:

Man, I love this nonsense.

Usually, I have to venture out of the 1911 forum and go to the General Glocking forum to read it. :wavey:

Ruggles
06-08-2011, 20:49
maybe he lost his password... :rofl:

:rofl: I bet it has the word Glock in it somehow :supergrin:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:50
maybe he lost his password... :rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

cole
06-08-2011, 20:54
http://indygunracers.com/images/glockv1911.jpeg

You get the 1911 or you don't. This has been asked before and Google is your friend:
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1279475
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/06/01/glock-v-s-1911/
http://preparednessdaily.com/2011/04/1911-vs-glock-for-defense/
http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Forum/showthread.php?2062-Glock-vs-1911

bac1023
06-08-2011, 20:56
I love that comic. :)






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Ruggles
06-08-2011, 20:59
I love that comic. :)






.

It is a classic :wavey:

widmn
06-08-2011, 21:00
The number of rounds doesn't mean much to me. I'm comfortable with the 7+1 rounds in my Kimber.

To me Glocks are blocky and I don't feel nearly as proficient with the grip angle or trigger. I like a grip and thumb safety also.

OK. That makes sense to me. I appreciate the honest answer. Thanks

knedrgr
06-08-2011, 21:00
http://indygunracers.com/images/glockv1911.jpeg

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Cerebrus
06-08-2011, 21:01
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm320/cerebrus2099/abandonthreadp1.gif

glock2740
06-08-2011, 21:03
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.
Ever heard of anyone shooting down a plane or blowing up a tank with a Glock? :dunno:1911's do it all the time. :cool: Just do your homework.


:rofl:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 21:03
OK. That makes sense to me. I appreciate the honest answer. Thanks

Anytime :cool:

bac1023
06-08-2011, 21:03
Ever heard of anyone shooting down a plane or blowing up a tank with a Glock? :dunno:1911's do it all the time. :cool: Just do your homework.


:rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

glock2740
06-08-2011, 21:05
After 3+ years, this is your first post?
No doubt. :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-08-2011, 21:07
Ever heard of anyone shooting down a plane or blowing up a tank with a Glock? :dunno:1911's do it all the time. :cool: Just do your homework.


:rofl:

Everyone knows you can't blow up Nazi tanks with a f'ing Glock.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/1911-1.gif

craig19
06-08-2011, 21:09
I really don't see why you would need more than 8 rounds of .45 in the first place. If you shoot a crackhead, that is trying to rob you, 13 times, I'm guessing you will be getting to know Bubba very well and for a very long time.:whistling:

Quack
06-08-2011, 21:09
coming soon...

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/58832/58832,1249240341,4/stock-photo-pretty-girl-holding-tiny-metal-padlock-34645789.jpg

craig19
06-08-2011, 21:10
Ever heard of anyone shooting down a plane or blowing up a tank with a Glock? :dunno:1911's do it all the time. :cool: Just do your homework.


:rofl:


:laughabove:

glock2740
06-08-2011, 21:10
Everyone knows you can't blow up Nazi tanks with a f'ing Glock.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/1911-1.gif
Exactly. I CC a Glock a big part of the time, but we don't have near as many tanks in our neighborhood as we used to. So I don't worry about it as much anymore. :cool: And as for the planes...http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2011/06/best-shot-1911-ever?cmpid=enews060311


:rofl:

HotRoderX
06-08-2011, 21:12
I really don't see why you would need more than 8 rounds of .45 in the first place. If you shoot a crackhead, that is trying to rob you, 13 times, I'm guessing you will be getting to know Bubba very well and for a very long time.:whistling:


I dont see why people would need more then 8 rounds of anything. Shoot if you hit your target which ya should beable to do. Then there gonna go down shoot even a linebacker size guy would go down after 5 our 6 rounds of 380acp in the chest. Maybe its a size thing you know like super exotic sports cars :whistling:

.45 Combat
06-08-2011, 21:13
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.

I feel just fine with either. My Colt Series 80, will give me the protection I need, as long as I do my part.

I respect the weapon, and I keep it clean. Even my Glocks. Now, high capacity is great, but not an issue.

vafish
06-08-2011, 21:14
The number of rounds doesn't mean much to me. I'm comfortable with the 7+1 rounds in my Kimber.

To me Glocks are blocky and I don't feel nearly as proficient with the grip angle or trigger. I like a grip and thumb safety also.

There lies the key.

We all have to do what we feel comfortable with.

While some may not like the weight of the 1911, others don't like the shape or feel of the Glock.

That doesn't make either one of them wrong. What matters is what is right for you.

Folks just get too wrapped up in their personal choice and trying to justify to everyone else that their choice is the right one. If it's right for you, then there is nothing else to justify.

majette
06-08-2011, 21:54
i believe the stats are most gunfights are less than 10 yds with less than four assailants and about four shots fired. of those most are one on one under 7 yds. accurate fire under stress is more important than round count.

also a few highly trained le and .mil units* use 1911's. while they may be secondary weapons for them, they think enough of the platform to be what they turn to when stuff goes south and they need to use a backup to save the day. i dont have a problem using a 1911 for carry, it is what i prefer. i do switch between hk's and glocks as well.

*(fbi crg, us marshalls sog, usmc marsoc, lapd sis, etc)

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 21:55
http://files.sharenator.com/I_smell_trolls_I_have_a_few_questions-s400x400-140415-535.jpg




Cockroaches.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cats%20-%20Dogs/cockroaches.gif

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 21:56
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup:

:animlol:

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:05
Wow. Can't stand carry a Glock?? Why is that??
And no I'm not a troll and I do enjoy shooting the 1911 more than the Glock, but still for Self defense, I like the number of rounds.

All of us own Glocks, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Owning one is just the price of admission. We just don't like 'em. :tongueout:

Seriously, we're not capacity fanatics. Learning how to hit your target is more effective than a multitude of misses. :)

Any training organization will teach you to "make every shot count."

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:09
I have a very simple answer to the 1911 question. I have owned many 1911's and many Glocks so I think my opinion is a valid one. I recently sold my last 1911 and replaced it with a Glock 36. IMO my Glock 36 with a 6+1 round count is hands down a better carry weapon than any 1911 could ever be. In my 14 years of owning and shooting Glocks, I have never ever had any type of malfunction. I now own a G30, G36, G19 and a G26 but my main carry gun is now the G36 with my G26 as my first option. Draw, point, shoot and it goes bang every time without fail. Do I need to say more!

Congrats! :cool:

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:11
:popcorn::drink:

I'll drink to that.



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Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:12
maybe he lost his password... :rofl:

:rofl:

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:14
I fixed it for ya. :supergrin:

Man, I love this nonsense.

Usually, I have to venture out of the 1911 forum and go to the General Glocking forum to read it. :wavey:

It keeps us on our toes and adds zest & zeal to the forum. The lurker trolls haven't a chance. :cool:

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:16
Ever heard of anyone shooting down a plane or blowing up a tank with a Glock? :dunno:1911's do it all the time. :cool: Just do your homework.


:rofl:

Glock leg after a 25 cent trigger job.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/gs2.jpg

Berto
06-08-2011, 22:18
I like both guns plenty, I have a full size Glock (g20) and a GM sized 1911 (Kimber CustII).
Under pressure, I can shoot the 1911 faster and more accurately than the Glock loaded with mild 10mm. Sometimes I shoot the Glock better, but most of the time the 1911's better trigger, slimmer grip and natural ergonomics give it the edge.
Both have been excellent in terms of reliability and accuracy, but the Kimber carries nicer IWB due to the slimmer profile.
I plan to reduce the grip on the Glock, which will help me control the gun better in rapid fire, and I love the Tenifer finish...and yes it hold lots of boolits, but I actually have more confidence with the Kimber when it comes to putting lead on target quickly.
There's no question it has proven its merit in both combat and sport shooting disciplines either, it's still the top gun.

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:18
.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cartoons/THREADLOCK.jpg

Cobra64
06-08-2011, 22:22
Folks just get too wrapped up in their personal choice and trying to justify to everyone else that their choice is the right one. If it's right for you, then there is nothing else to justify.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cartoons/BINGO-1.jpg



We'll discuss pros and cons of different platforms, but we never argue a platform except when a troll shows up.

MD357
06-08-2011, 22:46
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.


Because 7 rounds on target is better than this....

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5968/pics0022qd4.jpg

Also consider that the 1911 is easier to carry in any given size.

Nakanokalronin
06-09-2011, 01:06
Right now I'm kinda on a Beretta kick. Its the Yang to my 1911 Yin.

The last 3 range sessions went like this: Berettas - Berettas - Berettas and a 1911. I've been trying to get used to the DA/SA triggers so I can be proficient with both styles since I've been shooting my 1911s for years and years. Today I went to the range and it was my 92 Compact, my PX4sc and one of my 1911s (session #3). I shot the Berettas first and then my 1911 and holy moly :wow: did it put a smile on my face :supergrin:. No matter how much I shoot a different type of gun, I shoot, handle, manipulate and am more accurate with my 1911s.

Nakanokalronin
06-09-2011, 01:14
Who cares about self defense. My 1911 looks cool at the BBQ and helps keep my balls clean. :thumbsup:

Damn straight!

http://www.free-studentstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Free-Student-Stuff-Six-Flags.gif

limbkiller
06-09-2011, 05:38
I'll drink to that.




http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/BOOZE%20and%20DRUGS/whisky3kt-vi.gifhttp://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/BOOZE%20and%20DRUGS/JackDaniels.jpg


Me to, but not with Tenn. whiskey. :whistling:

eracer
06-09-2011, 05:41
http://files.sharenator.com/I_smell_trolls_I_have_a_few_questions-s400x400-140415-535.jpg

Sheldon, FTMFW!!!

seanmac45
06-09-2011, 05:58
OMG!!!!!!

I don't carry enough ammo! Only 8 + 1!!!!! I think I just crapped my pants!!!!!!!!!!

I need a high cap!!!!!!!!!




















Oh wait.

I just remembered that I spent the first ten years of my career with the NYPD patrolling with a six shot .38 Spl. S&W revolver on my hip. Funny how I survived all that I went through during those eventful years with only six rounds at my disposal. Reloads were dump pouches. Yet here I am listening to the rocket scientists who go all girly if they cant have 15 + 1 at their disposal. Wusses.

BuckyP
06-09-2011, 06:21
What I don't get is the not getting it part. :tongueout:

I certainly understand those that prefer to carry a quality 1911 over a GLOCK.

I also understand why someone would want to carry a GLOCK over a 1911.

I've tried so many different carry guns in the 8 years I've lived in a free state, and I've still yet to find the holy grail. :embarassed:

okie
06-09-2011, 07:40
Some people (like me) shoot and handle a 1911 MUCH better than a Glock. I can't stand carrying my Glocks, to be honest.

This:thumbsup:

akapennypincher
06-09-2011, 07:44
Think of it like BRAND LOYALTY, some guys would never Drive ANYTHING BUT A FORD!

MD357
06-09-2011, 07:49
Think of it like BRAND LOYALTY, some guys would never Drive ANYTHING BUT A FORD!

and some ride this....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo8/SFdSSU0gpvI/AAAAAAAACSo/Fhptoyfc4s8/s400/totg-short-bus.jpg

Cerebrus
06-09-2011, 08:02
Think of it like BRAND LOYALTY, some guys would never Drive ANYTHING BUT A FORD!

Spoken like a true glocker.. fanboyism at its finest.. :wavey:

lawdog734
06-09-2011, 08:35
I have decided neither the glock nor the 1911 are good enough for multiple targets so I will be carrying grenades from now on.....

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 08:36
I have decided neither the glock nor the 1911 are good enough for multiple targets so I will be carrying grenades from now on.....


I made a belt out of Claymores.

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 08:41
Agreed. That's why I am dual-wielding a pair of these...

http://team8.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=2865&pid=42533

Gunshine
06-09-2011, 08:41
I don't think 1911 love needs an explanation.

BuckyP
06-09-2011, 08:44
I have one of these on order. Once it arrives, I'll be getting rid of my GLOCKS and 1911s.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Star%20Trek%20Phaser.jpg








:tongueout:

Quack
06-09-2011, 08:47
just got rid of my 1911's and Glock and bought the Ultimate defense setup.

http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/Image/big_gun.jpg

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 08:50
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CpssVUeELgA/S_202Tg4a7I/AAAAAAAAAGs/hj3JuAS3V7Q/s400/hand-held_gatling-gun-or-mini-usmc.jpg
FTMFW:rock:

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 08:52
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CpssVUeELgA/S_202Tg4a7I/AAAAAAAAAGs/hj3JuAS3V7Q/s400/hand-held_gatling-gun-or-mini-usmc.jpg
FTMFW:rock:




You're gonna need some spare magazines with that.

Quack
06-09-2011, 08:54
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CpssVUeELgA/S_202Tg4a7I/AAAAAAAAAGs/hj3JuAS3V7Q/s400/hand-held_gatling-gun-or-mini-usmc.jpg
FTMFW:rock:

needs 22's and a ladder rack on it :tongueout:

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limbkiller
06-09-2011, 08:57
and some ride this....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo8/SFdSSU0gpvI/AAAAAAAACSo/Fhptoyfc4s8/s400/totg-short-bus.jpg

:rofl::rofl:

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 09:02
You're gonna need some spare magazines with that.
I'm willing to bet someone on GNG will agree with you.:rofl:

needs 22's and a ladder rack on it :tongueout:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227459_1040772068099_1489485999_117118_8603_n.jpg

Ladder rack doubles as mount, and 22's provide the clearance needed to roll over the zombies. :tongueout:

Quack
06-09-2011, 09:03
I'm willing to bet someone on GNG will agree with you.:rofl:



Ladder rack doubles as mount, and 22's provide the clearance needed to roll over the zombies. :tongueout:

If Obama had 22's he wouldn't have gotten stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BvABn7L_So

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 09:05
If Obama had 22's he wouldn't have gotten stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BvABn7L_So

You are very wise man.:upeyes: :rofl:

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 09:06
Agreed. That's why I am dual-wielding a pair of these...

http://team8.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=2865&pid=42533

Why dual weld a chick gun :whistling: when you can duel weld these http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/photos/weapons_fireams/thunder50diagonalace.jpg

You only need 2 round when its a 50BMG

BuckyP
06-09-2011, 09:17
If Obama had 22's he wouldn't have gotten stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BvABn7L_So

:animlol:

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 09:21
I'm willing to bet someone on GNG will agree with you.:rofl:



Ladder rack doubles as mount, and 22's provide the clearance needed to roll over the zombies. :tongueout:

Really? My 22's don't help with zombie clearance at all.....


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/Truck/102_1779.jpg

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 09:27
Really? My 22's don't help with zombie clearance at all.....


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/Truck/102_1779.jpg

That's because your 22s aren't tactical like mine are. :tongueout:

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 09:28
Really? My 22's don't help with zombie clearance at all.....


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/Truck/102_1779.jpg

Is that ghetto redneck? Wait, is there such a thing? :headscratch:

Quack
06-09-2011, 09:30
only got 16's (w/ 34's) on my old Zombie mobile.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v295/186/107/608698946/n608698946_810159_3539.jpg

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 09:31
Is that ghetto redneck? Wait, is there such a thing? :headscratch:

Yea there is we had a guy I went to school with that had his 4x4 F150 lowered with 23inch rims. yes I said 4x4

glock2740
06-09-2011, 09:32
Really? My 22's don't help with zombie clearance at all.....


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/Truck/102_1779.jpg
Hey Nick, was that picture taken at Broken Bow Lake?

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 09:32
only got 16's (w/ 34's) on my old Zombie mobile.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v295/186/107/608698946/n608698946_810159_3539.jpg

Bah! them teenage rims. :rofl:

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 09:34
only got 16's (w/ 34's) on my old Zombie mobile.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v295/186/107/608698946/n608698946_810159_3539.jpg


Nice Landrover I bet it was fun in the woods.

rhino673
06-09-2011, 09:39
Your best SD gun is the one you're most comfortable with. For example, my father has numerous pistols but is most comfortable with his Colt SAA. It is his go to gun for home defense. It wouldn't be my choice but he is very proficient with it and I would hate to be on the receiving end of it.

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 09:40
Hey Nick, was that picture taken at Broken Bow Lake?

No, that's up North at Oologah lake. I did grow up about an hour from Broken Bow though.

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 09:40
Is that ghetto redneck? Wait, is there such a thing? :headscratch:


I'm an albino Mexican.

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 09:46
I'm an albino Mexican.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 10:01
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVsxvVHGMlc

samuse
06-09-2011, 15:27
I usually carry a Glock because of it's light weight.

I've been carrying a 1911 lately because I haven't been using a holster.

jrs93accord
06-09-2011, 15:49
7 rounds of .45ACP, why would you want more? If you cannot be effective with that, then you should not be carrying at all.

outcast1911
06-09-2011, 16:11
You have to actually "OWN" a Glock to be on this site!!! They're going to kick me off. I had one for about a week couldn't get comfortable with it, and it was the "perfect carry gun a 19". MY Springfield LW champion(28 oz empty) rides REALLY nice on my hip.

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:11
and some ride this....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo8/SFdSSU0gpvI/AAAAAAAACSo/Fhptoyfc4s8/s400/totg-short-bus.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 16:13
You have to actually "OWN" a Glock to be on this site!!! They're going to kick me off. I had one for about a week couldn't get comfortable with it, and it was the "perfect carry gun a 19". MY Springfield LW champion(28 oz empty) rides REALLY nice on my hip.


No you don't have to own a Glock to stay on Glock talk. If they kicked Glock "Haters" then according to some I been kicked a long time ago. I guess being disgusted with a company that does not own up to its mistakes makes me a hater.

limbkiller
06-09-2011, 16:13
I've been carrying a 1911 lately because I haven't been using a holster.[/QUOTE]

How do you carry then? Just stick it in the small of you're back?

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:20
I have decided neither the glock nor the 1911 are good enough for multiple targets so I will be carrying grenades from now on.....


Grenades are good in a brief case.



I keep getting funny looks at work and on the golf course when carrying this. :dunno:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/FlameThrower.jpg





It's great for lighting the grill too. :supergrin:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/m2-flamethrower.jpg

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:27
I have one of these on order. Once it arrives, I'll be getting rid of my GLOCKS and 1911s.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/Star%20Trek%20Phaser.jpg



Congrats! :cool:


I got the scoped model last Fall. Works great!
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/SigPhaser2.jpg







This on is due in this Summer from Sig's Mastershop in Eckernförde, Germany.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/p220GATEleite.jpg

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:29
just got rid of my 1911's and Glock and bought the Ultimate defense setup.

http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/Image/big_gun.jpg

That's a great Kung Fu setup. :rofl:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:31
You're gonna need some spare magazines with that.


We don't need no stinking mags!


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/big_gun-1.jpg

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:34
No you don't have to own a Glock to stay on Glock talk. If they kicked Glock "Haters" then according to some I been kicked a long time ago. I guess being disgusted with a company that does not own up to its mistakes makes me a hater.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/DeputyDawg.gif


Correction. No one "hates" Glocks. Some of us prefer other platforms and manufacturers over others.

Preference is not hate. How can you hate a piece of plastic?

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 16:40
You have to actually "OWN" a Glock to be on this site!!! They're going to kick me off. I had one for about a week couldn't get comfortable with it, and it was the "perfect carry gun a 19". MY Springfield LW champion(28 oz empty) rides REALLY nice on my hip.


Shhh! Eric might read this. Years ago, we had to submit our Glock model and serial number before he'd let us post.

outcast1911
06-09-2011, 17:05
I respect Glocks, they have a great reputation and the one I had eat about 500 rounds without a problem, but they are still man made and can/do fail.

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 17:09
We don't need no stinking mags!



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/big_gun-1.jpg


:faint:I cant think of a single practical application for that but it still be awesome to have as a conversational piece or for when you board at the range.

outcast1911
06-09-2011, 17:12
Land clearing!

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 17:15
:faint:I cant think of a single practical application for that but it still be awesome to have as a conversational piece or for when you board at the range.

BORED
BORED
BORED
BORED
BORED
BORED
BORED


:wavey::supergrin:

Jason D
06-09-2011, 17:19
A well built 1911 goes way beyond only combat accurate.

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 17:19
Land clearing!

You mean zombie clearing, right? :wavey:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 17:53
You mean zombie clearing, right? :wavey:

You need something like that to clear out the crooks and perverts in DC. :rofl:

mrsurfboard
06-09-2011, 18:08
If you were involved in a life or death situation (ginormously small chance) and needed more than 7 rounds of 45acp your job title probably has the words "hit man," "contractor" or "communications expert". Otherwise that ccw will probably never be used and if it was I doubt more than 1 round would be fired. Even if there were two trolls asking the same question.....

So that leaves me seeking a firearm I enjoy working on, can quickly field strip, find parts for and shoot all day at the range with a myriad of reloads.

You would enjoy the debate going on over the carry forum. The keyboard commands are talking about taking on 15-20 man gangs, "being prepared" and the usual nonsense these tools always bring up. I agree, if you can't do it with 7 rounds, you're probably getting your ass kicked or killed anyway.

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 18:15
We don't need no stinking mags!


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/big_gun-1.jpg


http://users1.ml.mindenkilapja.hu/users/vivbor/uploads/drooling_homer.gif

samuse
06-09-2011, 18:25
How do you carry then? Just stick it in the small of you're back?


Just slip it in my jeans at 3:30 just like normal.

Generally regarded as a bad idea and I agree, but it's a risk I'll take.

Won't do it unless the gun has a manual safety.

Fedor
06-09-2011, 18:29
Just slip it in my jeans at 3:30 just like normal.

Generally regarded as a bad idea and I agree, but it's a risk I'll take.

Won't do it unless the gun has a manual safety.

It worked for Magnum PI :cool:

akapennypincher
06-09-2011, 18:43
It is call an affair with 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY, and beside it is the 100th Anniversary of Mr. Browning GREAT IDEA the Model 1911 Pistol. Wonder why the MANY Military is not using the Technology 100 YEARS OLD TO FIGHT WAR? Or Maybe they should go back to Flintlock Rifles as they were good enough for Davy Crockett.http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/wollwerth/wollwerth0801/wollwerth080100059/2416118-man-firing-flint-lock-rifle.jpg

akapennypincher
06-09-2011, 18:45
and some ride this....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo8/SFdSSU0gpvI/AAAAAAAACSo/Fhptoyfc4s8/s400/totg-short-bus.jpg

Wonder how MD357 went from Short Bus Rider to Short Bus DRIVER?

ptmccain
06-09-2011, 18:46
Hmmm....why the 1911?

Well, let's see.

You've got nearly half an inch wide chunk of lead, 230 grains in weight, with a +P powder load behind it coming at you.

You figure it out.

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 19:03
Hmmm....why the 1911?

Well, let's see.

You've got nearly half an inch wide chunk of lead, 230 grains in weight, with a +P powder load behind it coming at you.

You figure it out.

I think you missed the point.

This will do the same job...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P220/P1000576.jpg





... as this...
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Smith%20and%20Wesson/P1010355-1.jpg

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 19:05
I think you missed the point.

This will do the same job...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Sig%20Sauer%20Guns/Marks%20Sigs/P220/P1000576.jpg


Well, that's heavy and has low capacity. Oh wait, nevermind...

Jason D
06-09-2011, 19:05
It is call an affair with 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY, and beside it is the 100th Anniversary of Mr. Browning GREAT IDEA the Model 1911 Pistol. Wonder why the MANY Military is not using the Technology 100 YEARS OLD TO FIGHT WAR? Or Maybe they should go back to Flintlock Rifles as they were good enough for Davy Crockett.http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/wollwerth/wollwerth0801/wollwerth080100059/2416118-man-firing-flint-lock-rifle.jpg

The tech in a 1911 is over 100 years old. Closer to 105. Even earlier if you consider the couple guns before the M1905. That said, nearly every gun on the market still uses the Browning type action/lock up. The last new revolutionary device in hand-gunning would probably be the HK VP-70. That incorporated a polymer lower.

Before that would have been the Gyrojet and the Dardick pistols.
Handguns that fired rockets and plastic cased Trounds never caught on.
Even with the Tround's Salvo option.

The point is, there is nothing new in guns. There hasn't been for a very long time. Even the most sophisticated super gun can trace is linage back to the Browning design.

Even guns with the different rotating barrel type works date back to 1907 or so in the Roth-Steyr M1907. Beretta PX4 anyone?


Glock pistols can suck it.
Besides, from their polymer lower. They are no more revolutionary than anything else that came after the M1911.

Fedor
06-09-2011, 19:08
The high capacity clowns are worried about those "Zombie Attacks" :rofl:

Jason D
06-09-2011, 19:11
The high capacity clowns are worried about those "Zombie Attacks" :rofl:

Nothing like laying down suppressing fire with your Glock 17 and 33 round magazines.


....and yes I have two Glock 17's, and a crap load of magazines.

The 1911 is still King.
Hail to the King baby!

seanmac45
06-09-2011, 19:15
Shhh! Eric might read this. Years ago, we had to submit our Glock model and serial number before he'd let us post.


BTW, Eric carries a 1911!:rofl::cool:

Scamp
06-09-2011, 19:17
Really? My 22's don't help with zombie clearance at all.....


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/Nickpisp/Truck/102_1779.jpg

Where was that pic taken at Nick?

Quack
06-09-2011, 19:24
Where was that pic taken at Nick?

this...

No, that's up North at Oologah lake. I did grow up about an hour from Broken Bow though.

craig19
06-09-2011, 19:27
Just slip it in my jeans at 3:30 just like normal.

Generally regarded as a bad idea and I agree, but it's a risk I'll take.


Oh, man. I see this quote being used at a later date.:rofl:

Quack
06-09-2011, 19:33
Just slip it in my jeans at 3:30 just like normal.

Generally regarded as a bad idea and I agree, but it's a risk I'll take.



http://www.chillpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/congressman_weiner.jpg

:animlol:

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 19:35
:laughabove:

craig19
06-09-2011, 19:37
http://www.chillpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/congressman_weiner.jpg

:animlol:




:rofl:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 19:40
http://www.chillpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/congressman_weiner.jpg

:animlol:





http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/WEINERPERVERT.jpg






Democrat National Committee Chairwoman...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/DebbieWassermanShultz2.jpg

Jason D
06-09-2011, 19:45
I wonder if the weiner/wiener has a facebook page yet.

BlayGlock
06-09-2011, 19:49
Because you cannot get any more tactical than this:
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv239/BlayGlock/1911Dounts001.jpg

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 19:57
Because you cannot get any more tactical than this:
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv239/BlayGlock/1911Dounts001.jpg

If you had any balls you would show us how tacticool you are using a white powdered donut with your fancy black gun.

:tongueout:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 20:09
I wonder if the weiner/wiener has a facebook page yet.

He's been all over the news since he became a Congressman. He's an obnoxious, pushy, nasty, arrogant, prick.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/WEINERSICKTWISTEDLIAR.jpg

bac1023
06-09-2011, 20:12
and some ride this....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_y8SPNbAAKo8/SFdSSU0gpvI/AAAAAAAACSo/Fhptoyfc4s8/s400/totg-short-bus.jpg

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
06-09-2011, 20:16
It is call an affair with 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY, and beside it is the 100th Anniversary of Mr. Browning GREAT IDEA the Model 1911 Pistol. Wonder why the MANY Military is not using the Technology 100 YEARS OLD TO FIGHT WAR? Or Maybe they should go back to Flintlock Rifles as they were good enough for Davy Crockett.http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/wollwerth/wollwerth0801/wollwerth080100059/2416118-man-firing-flint-lock-rifle.jpg




Go away troll :wavey:

seanmac45
06-09-2011, 20:19
Didn't he used to be a big advocate of the 1911?

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 20:21
If you had any balls you would show us how tacticool you are using a white powdered donut with your fancy black gun.

:tongueout:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TsCPR7wZI5g/TJUeSxFn9iI/AAAAAAAADHg/RDB5Tpzvz8Q/s1600/first+bite.jpg :faint:

bac1023
06-09-2011, 20:24
Didn't he used to be a big advocate of the 1911?

:dunno:

Not sure, but he has another thread going trying to find the best 1911 for $3000. :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 20:25
Mmmmmmm creamy.

ProCarryNAustin
06-09-2011, 20:27
Was just thinking... at least one weekend a month, I shoot with a bunch of folks using all manner of pistols in IPSC including standard 1911's, S&W's, Glocks and all out race guns. The single stack guys don't seem to have any trouble keeping up with the double stack guys on a 35-50 round course of fire. Go figure.
I have used Glocks and 1911's and my times are almost identical on either platform. I don't have to reload as much with the Glocks, but I am faster on target with 1911's.

Mr. Gekko
06-09-2011, 20:32
It is call an affair with 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY, and beside it is the 100th Anniversary of Mr. Browning GREAT IDEA the Model 1911 Pistol. Wonder why the MANY Military is not using the Technology 100 YEARS OLD TO FIGHT WAR? Or Maybe they should go back to Flintlock Rifles as they were good enough for Davy Crockett.http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/wollwerth/wollwerth0801/wollwerth080100059/2416118-man-firing-flint-lock-rifle.jpg

Wonder how MD357 went from Short Bus Rider to Short Bus DRIVER?

Seriously dude, other than to be a PITA, why do you post here?

Somewhere, a village is missing one of their idiots. Just to be a nice guy, I searched for that village for you. Go home. :wavey:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 20:39
Seriously dude, other than to be a PITA, why do you post here?

Somewhere, a village is missing one of their idiots. Just to be a nice guy, I searched for that village for you. Go home. :wavey:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19

Way to go Mr Hand. :rofl:

Mr. Gekko
06-09-2011, 20:45
Way to go Mr. Hand. :rofl:

:rofl:

You forgot a period. In addition to being a "Richard," I am trying to become a grammar nazi too. :tongueout::rofl:

Quack
06-09-2011, 20:46
Mmmmmmm runny.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/i-h8VMr5H/0/L/i-h8VMr5H-L.jpg

joecoastie
06-09-2011, 20:55
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/i-h8VMr5H/0/L/i-h8VMr5H-L.jpg

I used to like donuts before I started hanging out around here......

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 20:55
:rofl:

You forgot a period. In addition to being a "Richard," I am trying to become a grammar nazi too. :tongueout::rofl:

You, me, and MD should start our own group.

C - congregation
O - of
T - the
E - enlightened
A - ***
H - holes

danield0825
06-09-2011, 20:57
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.

Because I don't need 15 rounds to hit what I'm shooting at with my 1911! Quality over quantity!

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 20:57
http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/i-h8VMr5H/0/L/i-h8VMr5H-L.jpg

Looks vaguely familiar. Oh yeah, you after your Mexican food today. :crying:

samuse
06-09-2011, 20:57
Oh, man. I see this quote being used at a later date.:rofl:



Yeah I thought about it and re-read it after I posted it and thought that it wasn't quite as concise as it could've been.

Then I said "piss on it, lets see what happens".

Quack
06-09-2011, 20:59
Looks vaguely familiar. Oh yeah, you after your Mexican food today. :crying:

just wait for the "all you can eat seafood buffet" tomorrow :animlol:

BTW, my son didn't have corn tonight, though when he poops he says "daddy, i got corn" now :rofl:

Mr. Gekko
06-09-2011, 21:00
You, me, and MD should start our own group.

C - congregation
O - of
T - the
E - enlightened
A - ***
H - holes

Can I have #1 put on my business card?

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 21:01
Can I have #1 put on my business card?

You haven't earned that right bro. MD is clearly the number 1 *** in here. :rofl:

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 21:03
You, me, and MD should start our own group.

C - congregation
O - of
T - the
E - enlightened
A - ***
H - holes


:rofl::rofl:

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 21:04
Where was that pic taken at Nick?


Oolagah lake, did you think it was Broken Bow too? :supergrin:

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 21:06
Don should be prohibited from ever eating Mexican food ever again:steamed:,no corn for Jr.

glock2740
06-09-2011, 21:06
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/WEINERPERVERT.jpg






Democrat National Committee Chairwoman...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Dopey%20Democrats/DebbieWassermanShultz2.jpg


Uhhh...like I'm totally more smarterer than both of you man.

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/spicoli2.jpg

:rofl:

Ruggles
06-09-2011, 21:08
You scrubs stay in the dark ages if you want, I am upgrading!

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=564303

http://i56.tinypic.com/8wjbyf.jpg

If I CCW with a 1911 with one of these bad boys stuffed in each gun, one 1911 on each side I will just look like a fat dude.


Now all I have to do is grid off my thumb safety, where is that dremel...........


(notice the customer reviews on this drum mag, did they really expect it to work ?)

Scamp
06-09-2011, 21:17
Oolagah lake, did you think it was Broken Bow too? :supergrin:

Sure did, I'm from Poteau and I go to Broken Bow all the time.

Nickpisp
06-09-2011, 21:28
Sure did, I'm from Poteau and I go to Broken Bow all the time.

I grew up in Clayton.

HotRoderX
06-09-2011, 21:31
You scrubs stay in the dark ages if you want, I am upgrading!

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=564303

http://i56.tinypic.com/8wjbyf.jpg

If I CCW with a 1911 with one of these bad boys stuffed in each gun, one 1911 on each side I will just look like a fat dude.


Now all I have to do is grid off my thumb safety, where is that dremel...........


(notice the customer reviews on this drum mag, did they really expect it to work ?)


but but but how can I be a mall ninja with out one:crying:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 21:33
I used to like donuts before I started hanging out around here......

Me too, until I found out Hokie gets Quack's sloppy seconds. :animlol:

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 21:36
Me too, until I found out Hokie gets Quack's sloppy seconds. :animlol:

Mmmmmmmmm Doritos!

http://iamboigenius.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dorito-Licking-Commercial.jpg

glock2740
06-09-2011, 21:45
Mmmmmmmmm Doritos!

http://iamboigenius.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dorito-Licking-Commercial.jpg
That commercial used to make me :puking:Glad I never see it anymore.

Mr. Gekko
06-09-2011, 21:48
After that picture of the guy licking anothers dudes finger, I have to ask myself this....

Why? Why, did I spend all afternoon fixing my laptop and getting a new router set up so I could log on to see this... :crying::rofl:

Hokie1911
06-09-2011, 21:53
After that picture of the guy deepthroating anothers dudes finger, I have to ask myself this....

Why? Why, did I spend all afternoon fixing my laptop and getting a new router set up so I could log on to see this... :crying::rofl:

Fixed it for ya. You have to answer that one for yourself, fella. :rofl:

thecableguy
06-09-2011, 21:58
That commercial used to make me :puking:Glad I never see it anymore.

You and me both Joe. I would turn the channel when that commercial came on.

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 22:02
Was just thinking... at least one weekend a month, I shoot with a bunch of folks using all manner of pistols in IPSC including standard 1911's, S&W's, Glocks and all out race guns. The single stack guys don't seem to have any trouble keeping up with the double stack guys on a 35-50 round course of fire. Go figure.


That's because they learned how to "run the gun." Part of running a gun is knowing how to change a magazine. The 33 round hi cap guys do it so infrequently, they have to refer to the instruction manual to find the mag release. :rofl:

In these videos, forget the targets, watch the mag changes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k90hyoa0_8Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSnLFSLnU_c&feature=related



Bill drill: Fire six, reload - repeat. Watch his left hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdFaqb3c_JQ&NR=1

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 22:03
Mmmmmmmmm Doritos!

http://iamboigenius.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dorito-Licking-Commercial.jpg

That is absolutely disgusting.

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 22:17
You and me both Joe. I would turn the channel when that commercial came on.

That crap was on TV??!

I thought it was maybe a YouTube gay promotional video. :puking:

akapennypincher
06-09-2011, 22:24
Seriously dude, other than to be a PITA, why do you post here?

Somewhere, a village is missing one of their idiots. Just to be a nice guy, I searched for that village for you. Go home. :wavey:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19

Calling someone DUDE show you lack respect for your fellow man's right to free speech, the exchanging of idea that do not fit in your box, or you find not to you liking.

You know there are people who still carry wheel guns (aka revolvers) for self defense, and duty because they fell that is their best option for self defense, or duty. Is that right or wrong? I can not say yes or no, but it is their FREE CHOICE.

You on the other hand I think are of the mind set that if you are not honestly in love, and have a armada of model 1911's you have no right to express or share any view, with the exception that the 1911 is the best, and there is nothing better for any job.

Ruggles
06-09-2011, 22:27
Calling someone DUDE show you lack respect for your fellow man's right to free speech, the exchanging of idea that do not fit in your box, or you find not to you liking.

You know there are people who still carry wheel guns (aka revolvers) for self defense, and duty because they fell that is their best option for self defense, or duty. Is that right or wrong? I can not say yes or no, but it is their FREE CHOICE.

You on the other hand I think are of the mind set that if you are not honestly in love, and have a armada of model 1911's you have no right to express or share any view, with the exception that the 1911 is the best, and there is nothing better for any job.

You came in the 1911 sub forum and hurled verbal insults about the 1911 and those who favor it, what did you expect? :wavey:

Cobra64
06-09-2011, 22:43
Calling someone DUDE show you lack respect for your fellow man's right to free speech, the exchanging of idea that do not fit in your box, or you find not to you liking.

You know there are people who still carry wheel guns (aka revolvers) for self defense, and duty because they fell that is their best option for self defense, or duty. Is that right or wrong? I can not say yes or no, but it is their FREE CHOICE.

You on the other hand I think are of the mind set that if you are not honestly in love, and have a armada of model 1911's you have no right to express or share any view, with the exception that the 1911 is the best, and there is nothing better for any job.

Please, do yourself and everyone here a favor.



Please buzz off.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/wasp-3.jpg



Thanks.

MD357
06-09-2011, 22:44
It is call an affair with 100 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY, and beside it is the 100th Anniversary of Mr. Browning GREAT IDEA the Model 1911 Pistol. Wonder why the MANY Military is not using the Technology 100 YEARS OLD TO FIGHT WAR? Or Maybe they should go back to Flintlock Rifles as they were good enough for Davy Crockett.http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/wollwerth/wollwerth0801/wollwerth080100059/2416118-man-firing-flint-lock-rifle.jpg


Hey Genius..... how old is the technology in one of these?

http://images.wikia.com/military/images/3/33/Ord_m2_mounted_lance_lg.jpg

TKR Reptiles
06-09-2011, 22:45
This thread is funny as hell!

I have carried tons on Glocks and tons of 1911's... I usually just carry whichever toy is new to me at the time... MY every day carry for a while now has been a G26, but now I just throw the LCP in my pocket and have the G26 next to me in my car...

TKR Reptiles
06-09-2011, 22:51
However I do have my 150 mags for the G26 and G17 loaded up in case of a zombie invasion tho... I also have a spare mag for the LCP and TCP just in case too... I also store two hollow points in a secret compartment in my pocket in case I can't kill all the zombies... I will shoot myself in the head with one of them, and the second is in case I miss my brain and need a follow up shot...

bac1023
06-10-2011, 04:14
That is absolutely disgusting.

:agree:

:puking:

Gunshine
06-10-2011, 04:25
:faint:I cant think of a single practical application for that but it still be awesome to have as a conversational piece or for when you board at the range.

BBQ gun.:wow:

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 06:49
Hey Genius..... how old is the technology in one of these?

http://images.wikia.com/military/images/3/33/Ord_m2_mounted_lance_lg.jpg

...annnnnd BOOM goes the dynamite.

TKR Reptiles
06-10-2011, 07:41
Calling someone DUDE show you lack respect for your fellow man's right to free speech, the exchanging of idea that do not fit in your box, or you find not to you liking.

You know there are people who still carry wheel guns (aka revolvers) for self defense, and duty because they fell that is their best option for self defense, or duty. Is that right or wrong? I can not say yes or no, but it is their FREE CHOICE.

You on the other hand I think are of the mind set that if you are not honestly in love, and have a armada of model 1911's you have no right to express or share any view, with the exception that the 1911 is the best, and there is nothing better for any job.

Maybe you should take your troll self back to the General Glocking section where you belong, Dude!

faawrenchbndr
06-10-2011, 07:46
dude

dUde

DuDe

dudE

DUDE!

DUDE!

DUDE!

dudE

DuDe

dUde

dude

brisk21
06-10-2011, 07:49
Hey Genius..... how old is the technology in one of these?

http://images.wikia.com/military/images/3/33/Ord_m2_mounted_lance_lg.jpg


And this pretty much says it all right here!

TKR Reptiles
06-10-2011, 07:50
dude

dUde

DuDe

dudE

DUDE!

DUDE!

DUDE!

dudE

DuDe

dUde

dude

Did he mention....


DUDE!!!!!!

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 07:51
Duuuuuude.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__Y7Xh3LOr_U/TEZLTyoCIWI/AAAAAAAABr0/97fokRnKUX0/s1600/spicoli3_jpg-magnum%5B1%5D.jpg

TKR Reptiles
06-10-2011, 07:54
http://www.blackouttees.com/media/THEDUDE.jpg

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 08:01
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.

polizei1
06-10-2011, 08:14
Ha, apparently he doesn't realize the 1911 is still used by the US military, along with the M2 .50 cal as already stated.

Hurricanes
06-10-2011, 15:30
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CPLAisdnSzo/R1okTZPygyI/AAAAAAAAAsk/EmRgRI0EyhY/S300/sw2.bmp
Your About To Enter A World Of Pain
-Joel

Hef
06-10-2011, 15:57
Yeah,I like them to tinker with and look at and modify with fancy grips and all, but for self defense???
Why would I choose 7 rounds of 45 in a 1911 compared to 13 rounds of 40 cal, 10mm, or even more rounds of 9mm or 10 or more rounds of 45 offered in the various Glocks for self defense??

Even if the gun has been proven to be dead nuts reliable as most Glocks are, you still have less rounds in a heavier gun.


1) Match guns may be finicky, but it's easy to get a totally reliable 1911 for everyday carry.

2) I use 8-round mags in my 1911. That's plenty of ammo for most situations, but if I feel like I might need more, I carry extra mags.

3) There's no REplacement for DISplacement. A 230 grain .45ACP bullet delivers MUCH more kinetic energy than a 115 grain 9mm, or whatever smaller caliber you choose.

4) If a 1911 is too heavy for you, you're a pansy. When I pick up a Glock, it feels like a toy. It doesn't have that "natural point" feeling that the 1911 grip angle gives you. It doesn't have the weight to slow that muzzle flip. It's a great gun for what it is - a reliable sidearm meant to be safely carried by everyone from professional shooters to total gun newbies.

Jason D
06-10-2011, 16:15
Ha, apparently he doesn't realize the 1911 is still used by the US military, along with the M2 .50 cal as already stated.

There must be something about this "100 year old Technology", that keeps them in service....

faawrenchbndr
06-10-2011, 16:28
Very nice of the troll to start this thread,......it's a rather nice one!

knedrgr
06-10-2011, 16:48
Very nice of the troll to start this thread,......it's a rather nice one!

If not, we would be washing each others' balls... :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 16:51
If not, we would be washing each others' balls... :rofl:

You mean deez nutz?

http://larry5154.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/squirrel-with-balls.jpg

knedrgr
06-10-2011, 16:53
Now you done it, it's going to get lock...

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 16:55
This dumbazz thread should have been locked 208 posts ago.

HAIL CAESAR
06-10-2011, 18:02
All of us own Glocks, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

Not me, I sold it long ago. The only guns I will carry are 1911's, M&P's, and revolvers.

Ruggles
06-10-2011, 18:04
Not me, I sold it long ago. The only guns I will carry are 1911's, M&P's, and revolvers.

No 1911s here either, owned two (23 and 27) and sold both of those blocky plastic abortions :rofl:

They are world class firearms but just not for me.

Cerebrus
06-10-2011, 18:09
Not me, I sold it long ago. The only guns I will carry are 1911's, M&P's, and revolvers.

Never owned one..shot one once, and that decided it.. HK will be the only plastic that I will own more than one of.. The other plastic that I have I am in the process of selling.. (9mm XD subcompact).. 1911's and revolvers from here on out..

Cobra64
06-10-2011, 19:24
You mean deez nutz?

http://larry5154.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/squirrel-with-balls.jpg

Hey, you stole my squirrel!

That's okay, that one's stuffed.

This feller is always strutting his stuff.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cats%20-%20Dogs/SquirrelHung.gif

Cobra64
06-10-2011, 19:26
Now you done it, it's going to get lock...

Most likely. We're gettin' a little racy for the city folk mods. :supergrin:

Cobra64
06-10-2011, 19:28
Not me, I sold it long ago. The only guns I will carry are 1911's, M&P's, and revolvers.

Shhhh... I sold my 19 a few years ago. Brian is the only one who knows that. Let's keep this a secret. Ok?

Cobra64
06-10-2011, 19:30
No 1911s here either, owned two (23 and 27) and sold both of those blocky plastic abortions :rofl:

They are world class firearms but just not for me.

:agree:


A friend of mine has a 22 and his wife, a 23. Those things rip me up. I don't like the .40 in a 42 ounce stainless Sig, much less in a 17 ounce Glock.

Mr. Gekko
06-10-2011, 21:07
Calling someone DUDE show you lack respect for your fellow man's right to free speech, the exchanging of idea that do not fit in your box, or you find not to you liking.

Really, DUDE? Calling you this common word is a lack of respect? Whatever, DUDE... :upeyes:

Swing and a miss, strike one...



You know there are people who still carry wheel guns (aka revolvers) for self defense, and duty because they fell that is their best option for self defense, or duty. Is that right or wrong? I can not say yes or no, but it is their FREE CHOICE.

Hey DUDE, thanks for trying to teach me what a wheel gun is. Never heard that one before... People here have a choice to carry what they desire as well. Wouldn't that be FREE CHOICE as well, DUDE? :upeyes:

Stike two...

You on the other hand I think are of the mind set that if you are not honestly in love, and have a armada of model 1911's you have no right to express or share any view, with the exception that the 1911 is the best, and there is nothing better for any job.

Share any opinion you want to, just don't act surprised people call you out for it. Are 1911's my favorite platform? Yes. Do I own an "armada" of them? No. I don't have a big handgun collection, but I own several different platforms. Please explain to me how I am saying that the 1911 is the best out there for any person or job?

I call you out because you act like a troll being critical of the the 1911 in one thread, and then you like them in another. Get your story straight, and I will take you serious.

Strike three, your out...

Do you want to provide any more analyisis about me, Dr. Phil? :wavey:

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 21:16
Strike three, your out...

Do you want to provide any more analyisis about me, Dr. Phil? :wavey:

Maaaaaan. You were soooooo close. That epiphany was well done. Bravo, sir. The brothers of COTEAH salute you.

:cheers:

98_1LE
06-10-2011, 21:29
There is nothing wrong with plastic pistols, or modern designs. I simply prefer the feel of a 1911 with thin grips in the hand, love single action triggers, and cannot live with the grip angle of a Glock or Luger.

I believe the reliability of the 1911 design is not what the more modern designs offer, and accept that. I figure the odds of needing the gun multiplied by the odds it will malfunction result in a probability I can live with. You have to make your own decision.

As someone that has been on the wrong end of both a cheap .25 and a 1911, I will add that the 1911 scared me a lot more. While any .45 will have the same sewer pipe looking barrel, the 1911 is something everyone recognizes on some level. How many kids grew up with plastic guns modeled on it?

Mr. Gekko
06-10-2011, 21:29
Maaaaaan. You were soooooo close. That epiphany was well done. Bravo, sir. The brothers of COTEAH salute you.

:cheers:

Damn, you caught it before me! I guess I will have to give up the grammar nazi role and stick to what I am good at.

I thought I was going to be one of the three founding members of that club...:crying:

98_1LE
06-10-2011, 21:30
You use the word 'I' too often to be a grammEr nazi. ;)

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 21:46
You use the word 'I' too often to be a grammEr nazi. ;)

You were saying...

gram·mar   /ˈgrćmər/ Show Spelled
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–noun
1. the study of the way the sentences of a language are constructed; morphology and syntax.
2. these features or constructions themselves: English grammar.
3. an account of these features; a set of rules accounting for these constructions: a grammar of English.
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4. Generative Grammar . a device, as a body of rules, whose output is all of the sentences that are permissible in a given language, while excluding all those that are not permissible.
5. prescriptive grammar.
6. knowledge or usage of the preferred or prescribed forms in speaking or writing: She said his grammar was terrible.
7. the elements of any science, art, or subject.
8. a book treating such elements.

98_1LE
06-10-2011, 21:51
I capitalized the misspelling for a reason. I'll give you one more guess.

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 21:53
I capitalized the misspelling for a reason. I'll give you one more guess.

So the fact that Gekko didn't misspell it but you did....means what exactly? Was that to prove a point? :headscratch:

98_1LE
06-10-2011, 21:55
I was trying to lighten the mood a little by showing my own humanity, while leaving it obvious when someone jumped on my back. Relax man.

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 21:56
I was trying to lighten the mood a little by showing my own humanity, while leaving it obvious when someone like you jumped on my back. Relax man.

It's all good so ease down Mav. I was merely trying to rebuild young Gekko's self-confidence. :supergrin:

Nickpisp
06-10-2011, 22:01
You mean deez nutz?

http://larry5154.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/squirrel-with-balls.jpg


Wait, so posting squirrel balls is cool but I post a dog's nuts and the thread gets locked?? :rofl:

Mr. Gekko
06-10-2011, 22:02
I was trying to lighten the mood a little by showing my own humanity, while leaving it obvious when someone jumped on my back. Relax man.

Analysis. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thanks Hokie for the back up, but he got me.

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 22:04
Analysis. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thanks Hokie for the back up, but he got me.

What the hell are you talking about? I got you before he did. :tongueout:

Hokie1911
06-10-2011, 22:09
Analysis. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thanks Hokie for the back up, but he got me.

No ball washing for you tonight.

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/sports/226_jesus-cleaning-bowling-ball.gif

Mr. Gekko
06-10-2011, 22:32
What the hell are you talking about? I got you before he did. :tongueout:

You're right... Thanks for helping to build my confidence back up. :rofl:

98_1LE
06-10-2011, 23:02
Ya'all are cracking me up. Thanks!

iluv2viddyfilms
06-13-2011, 21:58
You Glock, Smith and Wesson, and 1911 fans are nuts.

I only need one shot.

http://www.piratemerch.com/images/Flintlock_Pirate-2.jpg

Hokie1911
06-13-2011, 22:00
Better hope for a BANG and not a CLICK. :supergrin:

JoshC
06-13-2011, 22:08
Better hope for a BANG and not a CLICK. :supergrin:

i can see it now lol

*click* :wow: ......... :outtahere:

Cochese
06-14-2011, 19:37
I have 11 rounds and 30 more on my belt at work. I practice offense rather than defense and the 1911 is just fine for me.

:cool:

AC45ACP
06-14-2011, 21:09
Ive owned Kimber and Taurus 1911s. They both have parts that are like a time bomb. Namely the internal extracter.Ill stick with my Glocks


Well once you own and shoot a real 1911 then you'll Understand!!:supergrin::tongueout:

I love glock's I'll buy and trade for them and when I get 3 or 4 I'll sell them and buy a 1911!

Hokie1911
06-14-2011, 21:23
Well once you own and shoot a real 1911 then you'll Understand!!:supergrin::tongueout:

I love glock's I'll buy and trade for them and when I get 3 or 4 I'll sell them and buy a 1911!

BOOM! goes the dynamite.
:perfect10:

Mr. Gekko
06-14-2011, 21:33
BOOM!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qLAWo-ifmVI/SegcRzhXhiI/AAAAAAAACMo/483YHT-n7Iw/s400/john-madden.jpg

John Madden does not approve of trademark infringement... :rofl:

Hokie1911
06-14-2011, 21:44
John Madden does not approve of trademark infringement... :rofl:

Boom goes the dynamite. The most uncomfortable 4 min in the history of sports broadcasting. Classic. Enjoy and thank me later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no

Mr. Gekko
06-14-2011, 21:54
Boom goes the dynamite. The most uncomfortable 4 min in the history of sports broadcasting. Classic. Enjoy and thank me later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no

My bad. I get your joke now.

That was horrible. I thought the "boom" was a reference to Madden. Me b stoopid like dat.

carguy2244
06-14-2011, 22:15
I like shooting my 1911s. After 15 years of Glocks, I'm much more comfortable carrying Glocks than 1911s. Capacity and reliability outweigh the single action trigger and the slimmer profile, at least to me. I do find myself, however, shooting 1911s more frequently at the range lately, and the 1911s definitely have a much more classic look.
Not sure I can get as hyped up about 1911s as most in this forum - but I think if someone's comfortable carrying one, that's the only criteria needed to do so. Hard to understand challenging anyone for their respective preferences.

Toby196
06-15-2011, 12:17
I can never quite understand some people's inability to "get" why someone would choose to carry a 1911. If someone loves the 1911 platform, shoots it better than other gun designs/brands, and just plain feels more comfortable with it, it wouldn't make much sense for them to not choose it as their carry weapon?

BTW, though I never carry a 1911, I find some of the arguments used here against carrying them almost silly, especially the "only having 7+1 rounds" claim (although "8+1" would probably be more accurate). What I find funny is how many Glock guys will look down on the 1911 holding "only" 9 rounds of .45acp, while at the same time carrying a G26/27 with 11rds 9mm/10rds 40SW, or worse yet, a G36 with "only" 7rds of 45acp. Personally, I almost always carry a G30 which gives me 11 rounds of 45acp, but for a whopping 2 or 3 more rounds I definitely pay the price with a bulkier gun. Anyway, I just think the 1911's so called "limited-capacity" is a non issue. And I'm amazed each time I see it used as a put down against the 1911, and then the very next thread in GG will be about the how G26/27 is the perfect carry gun, and no one seems to notice the double standard.

Cobra64
06-15-2011, 17:10
I can never quite understand some people's inability to "get" why someone would choose to carry a 1911. If someone loves the 1911 platform, shoots it better than other gun designs/brands, and just plain feels more comfortable with it, it wouldn't make much sense for them to not choose it as their carry weapon?

BTW, though I never carry a 1911, I find some of the arguments used here against carrying them almost silly, especially the "only having 7+1 rounds" claim (although "8+1" would probably be more accurate). What I find funny is how many Glock guys will look down on the 1911 holding "only" 9 rounds of .45acp, while at the same time carrying a G26/27 with 11rds 9mm/10rds 40SW, or worse yet, a G36 with "only" 7rds of 45acp. Personally, I almost always carry a G30 which gives me 11 rounds of 45acp, but for a whopping 2 or 3 more rounds I definitely pay the price with a bulkier gun. Anyway, I just think the 1911's so called "limited-capacity" is a non issue. And I'm amazed each time I see it used as a put down against the 1911, and then the very next thread in GG will be about the how G26/27 is the perfect carry gun, and no one seems to notice the double standard.

:agree:

The Glock-obsessed folks lack critical thinking skills. :cool:

Toby196
06-15-2011, 17:19
:agree:

The Glock-obsessed folks lack critical thinking skills. :cool:Yep. I will say that while it's obviously not all of them, there are a lot of them and they are far too vocal.

Cochese
06-15-2011, 17:41
As an example to further this line of thinking, I went from carrying a G34/G26 on/off duty to the 9mm Springfield 1911/EMP9 on/off duty. I sacrificed available rounds for more accuracy, and confidence in my abilities.