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Deaf Smith
06-12-2011, 14:54
http://www.columbinecourier.com/content/police-officer-shoots-self-hand-his-south-jeffco-home

Besides having several dissimilar carry guns(which is usually a bad idea), the cop was dry firing in the bathroom and 'forgot' the gun was loaded.

He also 'forgot' his hand was in front of the barrel, and well bummer..

In fact he forgot alot of the gun safety rules.

Deaf

glockurai
06-12-2011, 16:38
That sucks. Reason why I check and double check.

Scott3670
06-12-2011, 17:26
I absolutely never handle any firearm without first making certain that it is unloaded. Period. I don't care if it's at a gun show, at the range, or even at my local gun store. I may get stared at but I don't care - I'll never be in the "crap, I forgot it was loaded" club.

Toorop
06-12-2011, 17:32
I do believe that he probably learned his lesson.

New York Hunter
06-12-2011, 23:00
There was a Probation Officer a few years ago in my area that went to clean her G22. She removed the magazine, pointed the pistol to the floor of her second story apartment and pulled the trigger so she could remove the slide. She never cleared the chamber and she fired a shot through the floor hitting the guy that lived in the apartment below her. The guy was critically injured. He did survive but it was a long painful event that he'll never fully recover from. Now IIRC, it's not a requirement for Probation Officers to carry pistols anymore. It's their choice, but now "I believe" they must go through the same firearms training as our Sheriff's Department. Trained by no other then the Sheriff's Department Police/Training Academy.

I applied for, and got my pistol permit as soon as I was old enough to (21) in 1996. I bought a new Ruger KP94DC 40 S&W before I got my permit. My dad put it on his permit, so he owned and possessed it until my permit was approved, then it was transferred over to me. He'd take me shooting, like he always did, and I'd shoot it then. It was a nice pistol but the trigger wasn't that good. I shot my friends G20 and really liked how the Glock felt so I went shopping for one. After looking at pretty much every pistol Glock made in 1999, I decided the G17/22/31 was the size pistol I liked. Since I sold my Ruger in 40 S&W to get the Glock, I decided on a new G22. In 2002 I was able to have the restrictions removed from my pistol permit and got a carry permit so I bought a new G27 to conceal better in the warmer months.

I don't carry a pistol everyday. I do used them though. I've probably shot 10K plus rounds of 40 S&W and 1-1.5K plus rounds of 357 Sig. (G31 barrel) with my G22 and 3-4K rounds of 40 S&W with my G27. They're my favorite pistols. I always remove the magazine, rack the slide to clear the chamber and then look into the chamber to make sure it's empty. Then I dry fire it, aiming it into any area where I know for a fact nobody will be. I do it the same way EVERY TIME. I NEVER put a pistol (or any firearm) away with a round in the chamber. The only time a round is in the chamber is if I'm carrying one of my pistols in a holster that's on my body, or if I'm hunting with one of my rifles or shotguns. I store my pistols in our safe with the magazines loaded. The safes next to our bed.

Sorry for the ramble, but I hate seeing someone get hurt and possibly in trouble when it's so easy to avoid. Like we were taught when we were kids, treat every firearm as if it is loaded and verify for a fact that it isn't loaded before doing anything with any firearm.

Sorry again, NYH.

Lior
06-13-2011, 00:41
The "Crap, I was sure it was unloaded" club is overpopulated, particularly by posthumous members. Remember the rules guys (and good gun owners will never tire from hearing them):
1. Treat guns as though they are always loaded.
2. Do not touch the trigger until your gun is on target and ready shoot.
3. Never point a gun at something that you do not want destroyed.
4. Be aware of your target and whatever is beyond it.

lwbfl
06-13-2011, 09:31
the "crap, i was sure it was unloaded" club is overpopulated, particularly by posthumous members. Remember the rules guys (and good gun owners will never tire from hearing them):
1. Treat guns as though they are always loaded.
2. Do not touch the trigger until your gun is on target and ready shoot.
3. Never point a gun at something that you do not want destroyed.
4. Be aware of your target and whatever is beyond it.

+ 10million

Gallium
06-13-2011, 09:42
Nothing reinforces learning like hands on experience. :tbo:

mrsurfboard
06-13-2011, 10:02
I don't think dis similar guns had anything to do with the accident. A loaded gun is a loaded gun. He F'd up, plain and simple.

LongGoneDays
06-13-2011, 11:37
So is he being charged for discharging a firearm within 500 feet of an inhabited dwelling and/or city limits or some other silly crap?

New York Hunter
06-13-2011, 15:28
Nothing reinforces learning like hands on experience. :tbo:
Or "hands through" experience! :supergrin:

The Machinist
06-14-2011, 05:39
Sounds like that pistol was quite a handful. :whistling:

happyguy
06-14-2011, 06:13
Hang some body armor on the back of the bathroom door and use that for a dry fire target. If you come down with a case of stupid your ears will ring for a while but that will be the extent of the damage.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Frost
06-14-2011, 07:42
Some one forgot their safety procedures.

schaibaa
06-14-2011, 07:46
Yeah, but if he was posting on GT then his opinion would be more valuable since it's based upon training and real world experience... even if it takes him twice as long to type it.

NewGlockShooter
06-14-2011, 07:46
That's why anytime I dry fire, I make sure that the gun and ammunition are in separate buildings.

ashecht
06-14-2011, 07:53
I dunno, but I was always taught to ensure the action is open and empty before doing ANYTHING else. And to treat all guns as LOADED until I can prove otherwise. Hope he recovers ok

Genin
06-14-2011, 09:47
The "Crap, I was sure it was unloaded" club is overpopulated, particularly by posthumous members. Remember the rules guys (and good gun owners will never tire from hearing them):
1. Treat guns as though they are always loaded.
2. Do not touch the trigger until your gun is on target and ready shoot.
3. Never point a gun at something that you do not want destroyed.
4. Be aware of your target and whatever is beyond it.


I preach this at the range with my friends, family, etc. However, when dryfiring at home (I do so in the basement or garage) the rules get stretched. I say this because I do not want to destroy my wall or discharge a firearm in the home which is why I use a particular set of rules that I have taped to the inside door of my gun safe. The short and simple of the rules state gun must be checked to be clear following regular saftey rules, an empty mag is selected (or 2 empty mags depending if I want to work on reloads), snap caps, which are stored seperate from reg ammo, are visually inspected an put into the mags. That is a short version but should give you the idea of what I do to ensure that when I pull the trigger I am hitting a snap cap and not shooting holes in my walls.

Cream Soda Kid
06-14-2011, 10:12
I don't think dis similar guns had anything to do with the accident. A loaded gun is a loaded gun. He F'd up, plain and simple.
You are quite correct sir.