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PittsburghFrank
06-12-2011, 15:51
I am in the market for a .40 handgun. I currently carry a G19 and G26, depending on how I am dressed. I am going back and forth between a Sig 229 in 40, or a Glock 23, Gen 4, and am looking for your opinion on which you would select and why.

I have funds availiable that I can buy either, so cost is not an issue. I know the Sig is much more expensive. I am looking primarily for shootability of the .40. Quality, long term maintenance, and general gun satisfaction are secondary desires, but important. I want to carry IWB.

If you have carried both, I would appreciate your pros and cons.

Thanks,
Frank

K1tt3n5
06-12-2011, 15:59
I love my 23, but will be buying a 229 in the future. If I had to pick one, it would be the 23 though.

outcast1911
06-12-2011, 16:04
The 23 will work in your current carry rig...I'd buy the Sig. No I'd buy a 1911 in 45acp.

Seraph
06-12-2011, 16:40
Of the two you cited, I'd go with the Glock 23. In Sigs, my preference would be for the P226, in 9mm Para. In Glocks, my preference would be for the Glock 19 (you'd have two Glock 19's, which is a good start). The Glock 19/23/32 is a svelt little concealed companion that's hard to beat, and, IMO, the P229 doesn't beat it. If it must be a .40, and you're looking at platforms other than Glock, the .40 I'd choose would be a full size M&P (or even a long slide).

HarleyGuy
06-12-2011, 19:37
Not an exact match to your inquiry but I have a 229/9 and a Glock 27, which is just a tad smaller than a Glock 23.

I love the Sig but it's just a little too heavy and bulky for EDC unless I wear a pullover, or a loose fitting cover shirt.

I always tell people that the difference in a Glock and a Sig is comparable to a Chevy and a Cadillac.
THe Chevy will get ou to the same place but a Cadillac does it in style:supergrin:

RRTX11
06-12-2011, 20:14
I went through a similar issue. Price not an issue and which to choose. My buddy has a 229 that I shot today for the third time. I wanted to shoot IDPA, and also carry my "STOCK" game gun keeping it completely factory. The SIG shoots unbelievably well, feels like a ferrari, and is perfectly balanced. I think it has a better recoil recovery. The two most popular IDPA guns are the Glock 34, Glock 17 with SIG not even being on the list. Because of this I chose the Glock 17. If I just wanted one pistol, no gaming, I would probably choose the SIG. With that being said, I just picked up a 19 to carry. SIGs just ooze quality though.

seed
06-12-2011, 20:46
I just got a Glock 23 Gen4 and have had one of the very first Sig P229's from 1994...and a Gen3 G23 from 1998. You can find near-perfect condition, pre-Cohen era (pre-MIM) Sig P229's for under 600 with night-sites, more easily than you think (not to say it is easy to find). If you do, get it. Unfortunately, it is from a by-gone era where quality still mattered heavily in the hearts of Sig. Ironically, even though what I just said is fighting words to many, no one can deny the quality of the older Sigs.

I am happy I got my Gen 4 G23, being in Kali, but I will not be getting rid of my Gen 3. It too is pre-MIM, as far as I know and it works just fine. I have yet to shoot my Gen4, but you can bet I will be comparing it to my Gen3. Anyway, you can always get the latest and allegedly greatest Glock...you have to luck into a reasonably priced 90's-era Sig P229. Personally, I'd pass on the latest Sigs at the moment.

BigDaddyK
06-12-2011, 21:15
I bought a Sig thinking I'd like it but the DA/SA trigger was just too different for me after shooting glocks for years. It was the most expensive mistake I've ever made.

Sig will be heavier and depending on you might take more time to become proficient with for carry. I'd get the glock.

PghJim
06-13-2011, 02:07
I got rid of my Sig 229 and kept the G32. The Sig was too heavy and I could not get used to the DA/SA transition. I have not tried the DAK trigger (if that is what it is called), it may be better. Through all of the carry experimenting I have done over the last 25 year, I have found the G19/23/32 to be the best carry guns. However, I rushed out and bought a new Gen.3 G23. I do not like the Gen. 4. However, my glocks are customized.

youngbuck
06-13-2011, 02:39
The G23 was my 2nd gun purchase. I found the lighter frame in the .40 effected my shooting ability. I prefer 9mm/.45ACP when it comes to Glock. A 229 in .40 was the replacement for the G23. I preferred the added weight of the Sig and really liked it in my hands. I now carry a Sig 239 in .40 just because I preferred the slimmer frame but wanted the added weight.

Since money is no issue then the major issues for you are:
1) Weight
2) Trigger Pull (Glock vs DA/SA) [Trigger work can be done to improve the Sig pull. Mine is super smooth after a touch up from Sig themself]
3) *Perhaps recoil

collim1
06-13-2011, 05:07
I vote Sig. The .40 shoots much better out of an all metal gun IMO.

Gallium
06-13-2011, 05:39
Sig is heavier. Round count is a toss up with the right mags.

Sig in DA/SA has a decocker. DAO no de-cocker.

RRTX11
06-13-2011, 07:22
do some research on the SIG SRT (short reset trigger). If I would purchase a SIG, it would have to have the SRT. I have shot with and without the SRT and the SRT is a very good trigger.

cole
06-13-2011, 11:46
I am in the market for a .40 handgun. I currently carry a G19 and G26, depending on how I am dressed. I am going back and forth between a Sig 229 in 40, or a Glock 23, Gen 4, and am looking for your opinion on which you would select and why.

I have funds availiable that I can buy either, so cost is not an issue. I know the Sig is much more expensive. I am looking primarily for shootability of the .40. Quality, long term maintenance, and general gun satisfaction are secondary desires, but important. I want to carry IWB.

If you have carried both, I would appreciate your pros and cons.

Thanks,
Frank

I have owned both.

The P229 handles the .40sw much better. It's a larger, heavier gun. It's the better shooter IMO. It's big and heavy for a 12+1 CCW. Sigs are nice, well-finished guns. Not worth the price IMO.

The G23 carries better. It's a smaller, lighter gun that's 13+1. Much more comfy as a CCW. But, I did not enjoy shooting it with full power loads. The less you shoot two-hand, aimed, slow-fire with full power loads the more you'll notice. Glocks are cheap, reliable guns and a great value at the price IMO.

beatcop
06-13-2011, 18:19
I've carried the sig on duty and a g-19...give me back my glock! The sig is a boat anchor!

I like the higher bore axis of the glock...the sig shoots well, but I'd rather have the cheaper mags, smaller grip, etc.

My old sig had no tac rail and the grip checkering wore down a little too smooth for my liking. I like the holster selection and parts availibilty also....what did I leave out?

Edmo01
06-13-2011, 18:36
I am in the market for a .40 handgun. I currently carry a G19 and G26, depending on how I am dressed. I am going back and forth between a Sig 229 in 40, or a Glock 23, Gen 4, and am looking for your opinion on which you would select and why.

I have funds availiable that I can buy either, so cost is not an issue. I know the Sig is much more expensive. I am looking primarily for shootability of the .40. Quality, long term maintenance, and general gun satisfaction are secondary desires, but important. I want to carry IWB.

If you have carried both, I would appreciate your pros and cons.

Thanks,
Frank

Skip the 40 and get (read: upgrade to) a Glock 30...

It is a smidge smaller than the G23 with a slightly chubbier slide width. However, it is chambered in the benchmark caliber: 45 ACP :wow:. I love mine and alternate between it and a G27 for concealed carry.

Between the two pistols you listed, I would get the G23. Same ergonomics as your other two Glocks so it will be familar in a stressful situation. Additionally, it uses the same holsters and mag carriers as your G19. Lastly, you can't beat Glock Perfection!

Edmo

James Dean
06-13-2011, 19:57
I own both and for me nothing shoots a .40 like my Sig P229. My Sig make a .40 recoil feel like a 9MM out of my Glock. For carry its a Glock. If you pick the Sig for CCW take a look at the P229 SAS.

up1911fan
06-14-2011, 11:05
The P229 would be my choice in a .40, I carried one for two years in a Kramer #3.

harrygunner
06-14-2011, 13:22
Sig's better quality shows.

A Sig P229 (in 40S&W) was my main carry gun around town. The gun has been 100% reliable for nearly a decade and is a very accurate shooter.

Since the P229 is a thick gun, I went with a thin holster, a CompTAC CTAC IWB on a "The Beltman" belt. With that setup, it conceals as well as any other handgun.

I learned to ignore the DA/SA trigger and focus on maintaining the sight picture for every pull. I used it for training sessions for many years and shot well with it.

My daughter liked it, so I gave it to her.

matt86
06-21-2011, 15:46
I'd buy the Sig P229... Great gun hands down.

I carry a Sig as my duty weapon and went through a week class with over 1000 rounds fired with no cleaning and no problems. Its an accurate, reliable, badass looking gun and I CCW mine daily.

HOWEVER, my sig was provided by the department. If I was going to buy my own gun honestly I'd probably go with a Glock 23 just because I can get the Glock 23 for half the price of the Sig. If money is no option sig all the way.

PghJim
06-21-2011, 20:41
Frank - think about the trigger options. I could not get used to the double action first shot, single action thereafter. I imagine you could train to use it, but I sold my P229 and stuck with Glock 23/32. I have never felt the DAK trigger, it may resolve the issue. The P229 is very reliable as mentioned, but I never had a Glock not go bang.

Bruce M
06-22-2011, 06:35
I'd vote P229 also (have one since late 90s never had a problem.) I like .40 better in a steel gun. I also would consider a S&W third generation - I really like the 4006TSW.

happyguy
06-23-2011, 07:00
I enjoyed shooting my SIG229 but it was heavy, fat, and uncomfortable to carry, even with a good carry rig.

The compact Glock's and S&W M&P's are much better carry guns.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

squiddie545
06-23-2011, 07:09
I shoot both. I am mainly a glock guy but for ease of shooting - I would go with the sig 229. The weight and the more substantial grip does make it easier to shoot hotter .40 sw ammo than the glock 23. for carry, as the others have said, the G23 carries more ammo and much more concealable. Plus the manual of arms would be identical to your other glocks. oddly, though, both group rounds about the same but the glock 23 just jumps around than the 229. I don't own any Gen 4 but I hesitate with what I have read about the new models.

dvrdwn72
06-23-2011, 07:16
I would get a 4th gen 23. Shoots great recoil is a bit better with the new recoil spring. I have carried g23's for a few years, use it mostly in idpa, thousands of rounds fired with no issue. Light, easy to conceil, very easy to draw and fire when needed, very simple design, parts are cheap and a dime a dozen, you can always find mags aroung at better than fair price.