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Filhar
06-15-2011, 07:35
OK, I'm a revolver guy. Hobby is Cowboy Action Shooting. Wisconsin is getting aConcealed Carry, so I want something bigger than my LCP/laser and my snubby. Went to my favorite gun store and was turned on to a 17 with 3 magazines for $450. Hardly used, can hardly tell it's been shot. LCP will be in a Mikas holster, and snubby will go with me occasionaly. 17 will be truck gun and CC in a crossbreed Supertuck. Held a 19 and it just doesn't feel that much smaller. Am I missing something? is a 17 to big to carry?

MrVvrroomm
06-15-2011, 07:43
Welcome to Glocktalk

Congrats to Wisconsin for its pending carry law

Look into an rtf2-framed Glock, that way you'll be able to use it as a cheese grater

MandPdude
06-15-2011, 07:44
I have both. I would prefer the 19 for CC (I'm also in Wisconsin). I have a Galco King Tuk, and it conceals both pistols well, I just like the way the 19 feels.

emore
06-15-2011, 07:45
I think you'll find many people here that carry G17s and larger. It depends mainly on your body type and what you're comfy with when it comes to what to carry. I carry a G27 in a Galco paddle holster and have never had any trouble. The options you mention would be a lot less noticeable than my setup. I'd advise you to go with whichever you like the best and can get the best deal on.

GNiner
06-15-2011, 07:53
Lots of people carry 1911's. The G17, while a little thicker than a 1911, is still shorter in the barrel and grip dimensions. The grip length usually determines what will "print". That's why some people choose the G19 over the G17 - the grip length is 1/2 inch shorter. Doesn't sound like much but it can poke through when you bend over or something depending on your clothing options. Your clothing and holster choices determine whether you can make the G17 disappear. Good luck and welcome to the fold Wisconsinites!

ihaveaglock17
06-15-2011, 11:10
i conceal carry my glock 17 with no issues, i am 5'11 about 180 i wear dress pants long sleeve shirt and tie for work, i use a belly band holster or i get a shorts with a string, i clip the gun on the shorts, tighten that string and put on my clothes as per normal, it does not slow down my draw and no1 has busted me as yet.

Riflemanz
06-15-2011, 11:18
I'm going to use my G19 with laser for CC.

Lior
06-15-2011, 11:34
It's an individual thing. You have to weigh of the carryability versus the shootability for yourself. For close quarters protection, the G19 is outstanding and easy for most people to conceal.

Having owned and carried both, in civilian, service and sporting scenarios, it is my experience that the G17's "delta shootability" outweighs the G19's "delta carryability", so I now carry the latter. But it depends on your hands, your eyes, your mind, and your figure.

And congratulations for your soon to be gained freedom.

IndyGunFreak
06-15-2011, 11:52
I'd definitely go w/ the 19. Get a good holster, a good belt, and you'll have no troubles with it. I carry a 23 and love it.

RRTX11
06-15-2011, 12:32
I purchased a Glock 17 for carry and IDPA competition. After 6 months with the 17, I thoroughly enjoy shooting it and have 12K rounds through it, but I picked up a 19 just for carry purposes. The 17 is concealable, the 19 is more comfortably concealed IMO. I use a IWB Glaco Summer Comfort for both, and a safari OWB for the 17 in IDPA. Although the 17 can reach a little farther with accuracy, if there ever was a need to defend self or family it would most likely be inside of 20 ft, and the 19 is just as effective if not more at that range. Both are great guns.

Sharky7
06-15-2011, 13:13
Definitely 19....maybe even consider the 26. Glock 17 is too big in my opinion for concealed carry, especially if you are used to a smaller revolver.

Filhar
06-15-2011, 13:59
The higher capacity 17 is for home, car, and CC when I am dressed to conceal it.

SCmasterblaster
06-15-2011, 14:09
I carry a G17 totally concealed, no holster, and I'm 6'0" and 235 lbs.

vafish
06-15-2011, 15:54
G17 was my daily carry gun up until I picked up my g23 a couple of months ago. Still carry the 17 occasionaly.

The 19 will be a little easier to conceal but they both require the same cover garments.

Veedubklown
06-15-2011, 16:08
I carry a G17 totally concealed, no holster, and I'm 6'0" and 235 lbs.

I wanna see this. Show me how you pocket-carry you G17 in hammer pants.

6 months ago I was 205lbs, at 5'10. Now I'm 165, while I can carry a g17 IWB and it's not that noticeable, I have to wear a really baggy shirt, or a under-shirt. The grip pokes out a little. I carry at about 8 o'clock (lefty)

Deaf Smith
06-15-2011, 16:34
While I actually prefer the Glock 26, I'd pick the 19 due to it being more compact.

17 will work but the 19 is a real nice size.

Deaf

Jason D
06-15-2011, 16:47
I have carried a Glock 17 on and off for the last decade.
A good belt and a good holster are important for carrying one.

I never had a problem with it's size and heft.
However I am currently entertaining the thought of buying a G19.

Louisville Glocker
06-15-2011, 16:57
For me, my G19 is my "big" gun. I prefer the G26 for CC. Nearly same stopping power, just in a smaller package.

It comes down to personal preference. Unfortunately, unless you have a friend with one you could try out for awhile, you won't really know which one you like more until you try them both.

For CC, I prefer the smaller one when given the choice of two comparable guns. And my shooting is virtually identical with either gun. Wisconsin (like Kentucky) allows open carry, so printing isn't an issue for you.

I'd say go to a gun store with both, and try them both in your holster and a typical piece of clothing and just choose the one you like more. Simply ask: would I be happier with gun A or gun B if I had to wear one home right NOW? And trust your first instinct...it is probably the right choice for YOU.

(p.s. EXCITED as heck about WI cc law....can't wait for it to go into effect)

dhkaiser
06-16-2011, 06:24
The attached image shows three Glocks on top of one another, A G26 on a G19 on a G34. It shows the difference between the grip sizes which are the main printing issue when CC'ing. The G34 and G17 are the same size Grip.

OctoberRust
06-16-2011, 06:35
I'd opt for the 19 personally. It's whatever fits your hands better, I believe the difference in grip is only half an inch. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

happyguy
06-16-2011, 06:37
Between the two the G19 is much easier to conceal unless you are willing to wear shirts that look like tents.

I think you should consider the G19 or G26. I did and I ended up with both in the end.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

kempeh
06-16-2011, 20:37
I would say to get the 19 if you're trying to pick between those two. You can conceal carry anything, but the larger the gun, the more effort you have to put into dressing to conceal. With the 26 I own, I don't think twice about shorts and a t-shirt. If I were to carry a 17, I might have to wear a loose collared shirt or something on top. I'm 6'2" and 215 lbs.

jdavionic
06-16-2011, 20:50
Another vote for the G19. I looked at both and the G19 just worked better for me.

rfb45colt
06-16-2011, 21:29
I own both. The G17 is for home (or my wife loves it at the range). The G19 is for carry. I've been carrying it in MN for a few years. Just as "shootable" as the G17, and just enough smaller to make it conceal better in t-shirt weather.

Just curious though... you said your hobby is cowboy action shooting. I assume you use a Vaquero, Colt SAA, or a clone. You probably shoot that gun more than any other. Why not carry that in the winter (parka) months? I'm thinking about carrying my Ruger Blackhawk, 4.6" barrel in .45 Colt in a shoulder rig in the winter. I work outside mostly, and wear a Carhardt parka about 6 months of the year. With my tools, I got enough crap hanging on my belt. Like you, I shoot my single actions more than any other, so I shoot them much better. Got my 1st Blackhawk in 1971. I had it worn out by '85. Had it rebuilt and rebarreled. I've got 4 of them now... 2 .45s, 1 .44, and 1 .357. I know they lack in reload capacity, but I'm not expecting a zombie assault. And in my opinion, one .45 LC bullet on target = 2 or 3 hits with a 9mm.... and I've still got 1 more shot than most snubbies.

Seraph
06-16-2011, 22:59
If you wear the pistol at about 4:00 to 4:30 (or 7:30 to 8:00 for lefties), in a holster that's designed to cant the pistol at ~20 to 25 degrees, and has the rear belt attachment point positioned so as to pull the grip in against your torso, you should be able to pull off the Glock 17/22/31. You can't dress like gigolo, or a figure skater, but you should be fine with a moderately roomy shirt. You have to be mindful about bending over in front of people, but you shouldn't do that anyway. :wow:

A smaller person might have to go down to a Glock 19 sized pistol to achieve the same effect, and I really like the Glock 19 myself, but I can conceal the Glock 17 sized pistol very well, with a rig like this one, which I made for a customer, last night:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g111/Trisagion/K-25%20G17/G17Coyote_web_01.jpg

kshutt
06-17-2011, 04:36
By gosh, get them both to celebrate the victory! :supergrin::wavey::supergrin: Get the G19!