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gunsmoke92
06-23-2011, 21:43
I did a search and found lots of references to them and saw Quack taking much grief for his use of them, but not one mention about why they are desirable.

So, with that said, what makes them worth having? Do they feel better? Do they work better? Do they make finger placement more or less critical? Inquiring minds want to know, and since I'm getting ready to "pull the trigger" so to speak on a new trigger for my pistol, I would like some real input. I just don't want to pass up a potential improvement without researching it just a little. :dunno:

PlasticGuy
06-23-2011, 21:51
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...

Hokie1911
06-23-2011, 22:17
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...

:rofl:

glock2740
06-23-2011, 22:33
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...
:rofl:

HotRoderX
06-23-2011, 22:37
:dunno: I kinda wondered the same thing. I don't really get the entire short trigger long trigger flat trigger thing yet.

CMG
06-23-2011, 22:37
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...

:rofl:

Perhaps Doug Koenig got paid to do it, and the rest just followed along? :supergrin:

gunsmoke92
06-23-2011, 23:01
Never mind. I actually thought an adult would show up.

Cobra64
06-23-2011, 23:14
Never mind. I actually thought an adult would show up.

:upeyes:


Doug Koenig endorsed the flat trigger on this Performance Center when he shot for Smith & Wesson.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Performance%20Center/PCRIGHT05-PICASSA.jpg





I didn't like his name on my gun pistol... :)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Performance%20Center/P1030848-PICASSA.jpg

Cobra64
06-23-2011, 23:23
:dunno: I kinda wondered the same thing. I don't really get the entire short trigger long trigger flat trigger thing yet.

Actually, the shooter's trigger geometry fit is pretty significant in affecting accuracy.

1911s and other SAO have an advantage over DAO and DA/SA. pistols. IMO

HotRoderX
06-23-2011, 23:46
Actually, the shooter's trigger geometry fit is pretty significant in affecting accuracy.

1911s and other SAO have an advantage over DAO and DA/SA. pistols. IMO

I did not know that at first I thought it was aesthetics. Then I thought will maybe it has to do with hand size. Long triggers for people with bigger reach. Short trigger for shorter reach. Then the other day I looked up Skeleton triggers and they where talking about how the weight of the trigger affected the pull and all this. At that point I knew there was more to it but not that much more.

There really is a lot to learn about guns its not as cut and dry as one might think.

gunsmoke92
06-23-2011, 23:51
Cobra64, Thanks. You restored my faith and gave me some good info to boot. Much appreciated.

MadMonkey
06-24-2011, 00:01
I've been wondering the same thing, looking at the flat CMC AR triggers.

Nakanokalronin
06-24-2011, 00:38
A reason I've read is that it provides the same backward trigger pull no matter where your finger lands on the trigger. Thing is, my finger seems to always land dead center on the curve of a normal 1911 trigger with a continuous rearward pull in the exact same spot.

MadMonkey
06-24-2011, 02:19
Well, I found out recently that a client of one of my housemates is one of the guys that helped design the CMC triggers, so maybe I can weasel a discount and find out for myself :supergrin:

CMG
06-24-2011, 02:20
Never mind. I actually thought an adult would show up.

No room for humor in your life?

Pity. :upeyes:

Rinspeed
06-24-2011, 04:15
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...




:rofl:

knedrgr
06-24-2011, 04:16
A reason I've read is that it provides the same backward trigger pull no matter where your finger lands on the trigger. Thing is, my finger seems to always land dead center on the curve of a normal 1911 trigger with a continuous rearward pull in the exact same spot.

This.

Plus, it eliminates the unwanted pressure on the other part of your finger, so you don't push the trigger up or down.

Quack
06-24-2011, 04:55
http://quacksgunstuff.blogspot.com/2010/12/flat-trigger.html

Quack
06-24-2011, 04:56
:rofl:

Don't forget that you shot better with the flat trigger, even without having any trigger time on it that day :tongueout:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q8FN8Mb/0/O/i-Q8FN8Mb.jpg

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
06-24-2011, 05:18
They are the work of Satan and are an abomination that needs to be purged http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Smiley/thicon_idea.gif

Rinspeed
06-24-2011, 05:41
http://quacksgunstuff.blogspot.com/2010/12/flat-trigger.html




I was afraid to click on that link. :whistling:

grecco
06-24-2011, 06:01
I have a 10-8 flat trigger on one of my colts,
and I really like, thinking of switching out all my 1911 triggers,
My best advice is try before you knock it.

BuckyP
06-24-2011, 06:36
I'll add to what has been said. A friend that got me into USPSA swore by flat triggers, so much that he got us all into them. When I asked why, he showed me. His finger was so crooked, that not only was he pressing on the bottom curve of the trigger, he was so low on the trigger that the sharp edge of the curve was digging into his finger. All my early guns got the flat trigger (except my first as by then it was in temporary retirement). Later I would realize, like the poster below, that my finger was straight and I hit it dead center. The curve vs. straight doesn't matter much, for me. However, having short fingers, I prefer a short trigger regardless of curvature.


A reason I've read is that it provides the same backward trigger pull no matter where your finger lands on the trigger. Thing is, my finger seems to always land dead center on the curve of a normal 1911 trigger with a continuous rearward pull in the exact same spot.

lsbbigdog
06-24-2011, 07:32
A reason I've read is that it provides the same backward trigger pull no matter where your finger lands on the trigger. Thing is, my finger seems to always land dead center on the curve of a normal 1911 trigger with a continuous rearward pull in the exact same spot.

This..

lawdog734
06-24-2011, 07:54
I've been thinking about having quack change out my no name and sig

okie
06-24-2011, 08:14
I would like to shoot one to give it a try:thumbsup:

PlasticGuy
06-24-2011, 10:20
Never mind. I actually thought an adult would show up.
Clearly, you don't know us very well. :supergrin:

For a serious answer, it is intended to give a straight back trigger pull regardless of trigger finger position. In reality, it's ugly and makes for too long a trigger reach for my taste.

HAIL CAESAR
06-24-2011, 14:39
The reason? My theory is mild retardation. Just my opinion though...

:rofl: x2

limbkiller
06-24-2011, 15:38
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/limbkiller/dv.jpg


This is Quack and once he knows you might be into a flat trigger he uses the force to alter you into another convert into the dark side. Be afraid my friend very afraid as legions shall soon follow him into hell.
Grown up enough for you?

El_Ron1
06-24-2011, 15:46
Flat triggers, what's the real reason?

Boredom, depression, prescription and recreational drugs, alcohol abuse...

Fedor
06-24-2011, 17:55
IMHO, Flat Triggers look :pjmn:

Quack
06-24-2011, 17:57
IMHO, Flat Triggers look :pjmn:

This coming from a guy that think stripping a 1911 is difficult :tongueout:

Quack
06-24-2011, 18:00
Clearly, you don't know us very well. :supergrin:

For a serious answer, it is intended to give a straight back trigger pull regardless of trigger finger position. In reality, it's ugly and makes for too long a trigger reach for my taste.

Unless you use short triggers, the flat trigger is the same as the shortest part of the long curved trigger.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1137656074_t46i6-O.jpg

Fedor
06-24-2011, 18:09
IMHO, Flat Triggers look :pjmn:

This coming from a guy that think stripping a 1911 is difficult :tongueout:

I hadnt done it for almost 30 years. :tongueout:

Quack
06-24-2011, 18:11
I hadnt done it for almost 30 years. :tongueout:

That's a long dry spell :animlol:

PlasticGuy
06-24-2011, 18:13
Unless you use short triggers, the flat trigger is the same as the shortest part of the long curved trigger...
I do use short triggers.

Fedor
06-24-2011, 18:14
That's a long dry spell :animlol:

It's going to be even longer after I sell off my 1911's. :wavey:

limbkiller
06-24-2011, 18:15
Unless you use short triggers, the flat trigger is the same as the shortest part of the long curved trigger.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1137656074_t46i6-O.jpg
Touche' my friend. Not a super fan because of looks but a great point.:perfect10:

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 18:18
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/limbkiller/dv.jpg


This is Quack and once he knows you might be into a flat trigger he uses the force to alter you into another convert into the dark side. Be afraid my friend very afraid as legions shall soon follow him into hell.
Grown up enough for you?


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Glock/DarthVader.jpg

"I am Quack."

Hokie1911
06-24-2011, 18:23
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/4248fada.jpg

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 18:27
It's going to be even longer after I sell off my 1911's. :wavey:

Congrats! :cool:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1348393&page=3

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 18:29
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/4248fada.jpg


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

limbkiller
06-24-2011, 19:41
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/4248fada.jpg
:rofl::rofl: God thats funny.

craig19
06-24-2011, 19:48
It's going to be even longer after I sell off my 1911's. :wavey:

You're selling them now?

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 20:30
You're selling them now?

He's going to keep his new 1911's and "tuck them away as investments (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1351599)."

craig19
06-24-2011, 20:42
He's going to keep his new 1911's and "tuck them away as investments (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1351599)."


But..but..he's had them like a week.:dunno:

Foxtrotx1
06-24-2011, 20:55
http://quacksgunstuff.blogspot.com/2010/12/flat-trigger.html

You got puuuurrdy hands there boy! :whistling:

thecableguy
06-24-2011, 21:00
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/4248fada.jpg

You got puuuurrdy hands there boy! :whistling:

:rofl::rofl: :animlol: :animlol:

Mr. Gekko
06-24-2011, 21:03
But..but..he's had them like a week.:dunno:

It's nothing new from him. He has posted many times saying he likes 1911's (I actually think he does) but he has also stirred the pot with some of his posts against the 1911 in other threads in the past.

Why he actually bought two of them is what I wonder about.

knedrgr
06-24-2011, 21:08
multiple personalities...

samuse
06-24-2011, 21:10
It's going to be even longer after I sell off my 1911's. :wavey:


So whatcha got?? Anything good?

Wanna Sig P220? It's way more reliable than a 1911.:supergrin:

Fedor
06-24-2011, 21:26
It's nothing new from him. He has posted many times saying he likes 1911's (I actually think he does) but he has also stirred the pot with some of his posts against the 1911 in other threads in the past.

Why he actually bought two of them is what I wonder about.

I really do like 1911's. I like the history behind them, and I consider the really nice ones works of art.
With the 100th anniversary in full swing I felt a strong draw to own one again.

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 21:43
It's nothing new from him. He has posted many times saying he likes 1911's (I actually think he does) but he has also stirred the pot with some of his posts against the 1911 in other threads in the past.

Why he actually bought two of them is what I wonder about.


Like this?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/IN-AND-OUT.gif

:faint:

gunsmoke92
06-24-2011, 22:28
Clearly, you don't know us very well. :supergrin:

For a serious answer, it is intended to give a straight back trigger pull regardless of trigger finger position. In reality, it's ugly and makes for too long a trigger reach for my taste.

No, believe me, I know all of you very well and I knew what was coming. I just hoped for at least one honest reply before the fun started, (plus I had a crappy day at work).

OK, number one, take us to warp factor 6, ......engage (you may continue having fun at my expense now). :supergrin:


PS Thanks for all the replies, some really helped. Quack, your blog really made a good case for using them.

Cobra64
06-24-2011, 22:32
No, believe me, I know all of you very well and I knew what was coming. I just hoped for at least one honest reply before the fun started, (plus I had a crappy day at work).

OK, number one, take us to warp factor 6, ......engage (you may continue having fun at my expense now). :supergrin:


PS Thanks for all the replies, some really helped. Quack, your blog really made a good case for using them.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/M-spock.jpg

"Flat trigger Jim."