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bklynpete
06-25-2011, 18:04
Here in NM, we are not allowed to carry in restaurants that serve liquor. We can in places that only have a beer and wine license though. So when I go on a date, I usually leave my weapon in my car. That is the problem. I really don't want to leave a Kimber, Walther or even a Glock there. So I am thinking of getting something really inexpensive. I've narrowed it down to a S&W 380 bodyguard, Kahr CW9, or Keltec PF9. the Ruger LC9 was on the list, but all the safety thingy's on it, are turning me off. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but the Keltec is really low on my list, but fits the cheap gun requirement. I also hear about issues with Kahrs, seems like a hit and miss situation, same with Keltec's. Some love them, and some hate them. The only thing I hear about the 380 bodyguard is how difficult the laser is to operate, but the fact that it has better sights and last round slide lock back, gives it a plus for me compared to it's 380 pocket counterparts. I would probably carry OWB instead of IWB because I think it would be harder to draw these smaller weapons from IWB holsters. If I am wrong with this assumption, please let me know. I might carry the bodyguard in a pocket holster, but I already have enough crap in my pockets, key's money, phone and wallet. What would you do????

HotRoderX
06-25-2011, 18:08
To me for this application a 380 auto seems woefully under powered. There nothing wrong with the 380 if its used for a pocket gun but as a car gun I just say no. I would personally go with maybe a Smith and Wesson 637 5 rounds of 38special +P is nothing to sneeze at. Something else you could do is look for a LEO traded in Glock I seen them go in the 320-350 range.

FLglockdude
06-25-2011, 18:16
You can get used Glock for less than the price of a CW9.

Dr.Midnight
06-25-2011, 18:16
I would recommend a good S&W J Frame. Where I live, I can get one new for slightly over $400, and I know the 642 (the one I am looking at) has the option of no internal lock. I'm sure if you shopped around you could find a good used one for less.

michael e
06-25-2011, 18:24
SW sigma 9mm is around 300 new, I have had one for years. Its not a glock but mine have several thousand rounds threw it without an issue. Used G22s are about 350 400 if want to go with 40sw

HexHead
06-25-2011, 18:30
My suggestion is to get a cheap, used revolver. If you do go with the Bodyguard 380, PM me and I'll turn you on to the DIY fix for the mushy laser buttons. Mine are just tap-tap-tap now.

SpectreRider
06-25-2011, 18:49
you are planning to have it stolen.

G r e a t . . .

Then some lowlife that jacks stuff out of cars has a gun.

Rather than looking for a cheap gun, look for a good quality vehicle safe.

Edmo01
06-25-2011, 20:10
you are planning to have it stolen.

G r e a t . . .

Then some lowlife that jacks stuff out of cars has a gun.

Rather than looking for a cheap gun, look for a good quality vehicle safe.

+1... Don't plan to have it stolen, plan to keep it.

For $20 you can get one of these and cable/bolt it to your car...

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/274/274442.jpg
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=274442

Edmo

Gene Pool
06-25-2011, 20:39
...when I go on a date, I usually leave my weapon in my car. That is the problem.

A gun in a car does you no good unless you are in the car. When you escort your date in and out of the restaurant, that is when you are most vurnerable. Unless the gun is on you, you can't protect yourself or her. So, my recommendation is to take her places where you can carry.

Gene

Angry Fist
06-25-2011, 20:42
Kel-Tec P11, with 12 round mag.

DaneA
06-25-2011, 21:16
What would you do????

I would carry in my cbst anyway. With that said drinking any alcohol would also be out of the question.

HarleyGuy
06-26-2011, 00:03
HOW.....do you know if a restaurant serves beer and wine but not liquor?

I'm planning on visiting NM shortly so this is of interest to me.

ScottieG59
06-26-2011, 00:16
I have 2 gun "safes" in my truck that are cabled down. I rarely have anything in them unless I have to go where the guns are prohibited. Sometimes, I unloads the handgun and store the ammo separately. There are very few times I disarm myself, but one is when I am on federal property. It is too easy to loose a gun when it is left in a vehicle, so some sort of anchored safe would be good.

mrsurfboard
06-26-2011, 01:40
+1... Don't plan to have it stolen, plan to keep it.

For $20 you can get one of these and cable/bolt it to your car...

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/274/274442.jpg
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=274442

Edmo

+1 on this. You don't need to spend money on a new gun, just protect the one you have.

aeroengr
06-26-2011, 02:51
IMHO, pocket .380's are only good for one thing... and that would be pocketing. If this gun is just going to be stowed in your car, why not get something bigger?

ICARRY2
06-26-2011, 09:26
+1... Don't plan to have it stolen, plan to keep it.

For $20 you can get one of these and cable/bolt it to your car...

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/274/274442.jpg
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=274442

Edmo

I have one of these. They are great. Also, meets TSA regulations for placing an unloaded gun in your checked luggage.

However, I prefer the one with a 3 digit combination.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=462945

I also like the idea of a .38 special with some +P ammo for a car gun.

beforeobamabans
06-26-2011, 09:44
G26 in a High Noon Mr. Softy. This is a great glove box combo. The Softy is as quick a mounting holster as you will ever find. Add a fully loaded G17 back up mag and you're ready for anything.

Sam Spade
06-26-2011, 09:53
Option best: lockbox.

Option next best: used revolver of the police trade-in flavor. S&W 64s are running about $270 right now.

Fedor
06-26-2011, 09:54
You want to protect your life with "Cheap"

Bill Lumberg
06-26-2011, 10:24
It doesn't matter what gun you leave in the car- if it's going to be unattended, it needs to be in a lockbox or cable locked to the car. Under the seat, in the console, or in the glovebox alone doesn't cut it. Here in NM, we are not allowed to carry in restaurants that serve liquor. We can in places that only have a beer and wine license though. So when I go on a date, I usually leave my weapon in my car. That is the problem. I really don't want to leave a Kimber, Walther or even a Glock there. So I am thinking of getting something really inexpensive. I've narrowed it down to a S&W 380 bodyguard, Kahr CW9, or Keltec PF9. the Ruger LC9 was on the list, but all the safety thingy's on it, are turning me off. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but the Keltec is really low on my list, but fits the cheap gun requirement. I also hear about issues with Kahrs, seems like a hit and miss situation, same with Keltec's. Some love them, and some hate them. The only thing I hear about the 380 bodyguard is how difficult the laser is to operate, but the fact that it has better sights and last round slide lock back, gives it a plus for me compared to it's 380 pocket counterparts. I would probably carry OWB instead of IWB because I think it would be harder to draw these smaller weapons from IWB holsters. If I am wrong with this assumption, please let me know. I might carry the bodyguard in a pocket holster, but I already have enough crap in my pockets, key's money, phone and wallet. What would you do????

wrenrj1
06-26-2011, 10:31
Ruger P Series pistols. You can them them used under $300.

Dexters
06-27-2011, 07:21
Lock box or a used Glock is your best alternatives.
Lock box because of price and you can use the gun you have trained with.
Used Glock is second because you will have a gun you have trained with.

RRTX11
06-27-2011, 07:48
do it right, get a small gun safe mounted in your car, use your typically carry gun or get a glock 26. if you are going to rely on a weapon to defend yourself, make it a weapon that you can count on.

FAS1
06-27-2011, 09:19
do it right, get a small gun safe mounted in your car, use your typically carry gun or get a glock 26. if you are going to rely on a weapon to defend yourself, make it a weapon that you can count on.


I would agree and while I do carry a P3AT most of the time, I also carry a G26 and that is my preferred method of carry. My HD gun is a G17. I trust both to go bang if needed and they are just alike as far as handling them. Be sure and secure them the best way you can at home and in your vehicle. The Keltec is my better than nothing gun when those time arise and so far its been very dependable although not near the rounds through it as the Glocks.

bklynpete
06-27-2011, 11:09
Unfortunately, there is no list that I know of. Someone mentioned that I should find places to take my dates that I can carry in. I don't do IHOP or Denny's. Most of the better restaurants, have bars. The irony is I don't drink.

HOW.....do you know if a restaurant serves beer and wine but not liquor?

I'm planning on visiting NM shortly so this is of interest to me.

bklynpete
06-27-2011, 11:17
I do have a cable lock box, but the cable can be defeated easily. I am more worried that the car maybe stolen, then just broken into, thus a weapon that I wouldn't be heartbroken if that happened. I own a 642, prelock and that is a gun I wouldn't want to lose. Thanks for all the replies, good and bad. I'll figure it out.

fmfdocglock
06-27-2011, 11:22
A gun in a car does you no good unless you are in the car. When you escort your date in and out of the restaurant, that is when you are most vurnerable. Unless the gun is on you, you can't protect yourself or her. So, my recommendation is to take her places where you can carry.

Gene

Well, isn't that practical:upeyes:

Boogeyman behind every fire hydrant?

Bill Lumberg
06-27-2011, 11:49
Then hard mount it, and you're done. I do have a cable lock box, but the cable can be defeated easily. I am more worried that the car maybe stolen, then just broken into, thus a weapon that I wouldn't be heartbroken if that happened. I own a 642, prelock and that is a gun I wouldn't want to lose. Thanks for all the replies, good and bad. I'll figure it out.

Chowser
06-27-2011, 15:30
my car gun is my old Glock 32. After I bought the 33, I tossed the 32 in the glove box. There's extra mags for the 32 in my driver's door pocket and the mags fit my 33 too.

shellster
06-27-2011, 19:24
I have an old .38 special that works marvelously for a car gun.

This is one of the areas where revolvers are made to order. They want ricochet brass at you, the mag springs won't give out from being constantly loaded, they'll handle the car climate better, and they will go bang even without oil. Finally they're cheap, so if, god forbid, they are stolen it won't hurt quite so bad.

glock75
06-27-2011, 19:38
Go with a used Glock and a good safety lock box or console vault.

Louisville Glocker
06-27-2011, 20:11
Shell out the big bucks and buy a used glock and a twenty dollar lock box.

If you go cheap, and somebody steals your gun, you're putting a gun on the street in a criminal's hands and you're out a bunch of money.

Vartarg
06-27-2011, 20:22
CHEAP isn't the word that comes to mind shen i think about my life & the lives os those i love.....

BK63
06-27-2011, 20:48
+1... Don't plan to have it stolen, plan to keep it.

For $20 you can get one of these and cable/bolt it to your car...

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/274/274442.jpg
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=274442

Edmo

That's what I use. I don't use it often, but when I have to leave the gun in the car I feel a little better it being in this, plus the car alarm.

kensteele
06-27-2011, 22:00
My cheap gun in the car is a HiPoint 45 in a safe. Been there for about a year since I last seen it (probably should check to make sure it is still there). I think I managed to get it new from Cabelas for under $100 with some points and coupons and on sale.

NWGlocker
06-28-2011, 10:50
Another vote for a lock box. I have one in my truck and it is great. I use it all the time. Sometimes I don't even use it for the gun. On more than one occasion I have pulled out a couple hundred in cash and locked it in there while stopping at the store while on the way home. I also got lock box big enough for two guns. That way if a buddy and I are going somewhere we can't carry he has an option as well. I really don't like the idea of arming bad guys.

bruzer
06-28-2011, 11:09
HiPoint.
Mike

Riflemanz
07-01-2011, 05:59
We had a tow truck driver get robbed by 2 guys and when the guys tried to stab him he pulled out his .380 pistol and shot them both,even when they ran he was still firing at them.It did the job!

dregotglock
07-01-2011, 09:01
Op:

Honestly I would keep what you have that works for you and just use the lock box you have as well.

No need to pick up a "cheap" gun just in case it gets stolen - Just lock it up.

Be safe.

mikegun
07-03-2011, 21:46
I have a kel tec pf9 that is as reliable as my Glock 23, but why not get a used glock from SUMMIT GUNS, almost a beater if u done trust the kt9, i think hes got some gLOCKS FOR 300 OR SO...

10mmWendel
07-03-2011, 23:03
A gun in a car does you no good unless you are in the car. When you escort your date in and out of the restaurant, that is when you are most vurnerable. Unless the gun is on you, you can't protect yourself or her. So, my recommendation is to take her places where you can carry.

Gene

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+1

Very reasonable advice. It's also the cheapest solution to your problem.

BroncoAZ
07-04-2011, 12:42
I've got a G23 for each vehicle. In my opinion spending $300 on a car gun is close enough to having a Glock for each car. I have found PD trade in guns as cheap as $325 in the past as well. At one point when I was just out of college I had a Kel Tec P-11 in each vehicle, but I was strapped for cash.

In my main truck I am seriously looking at a console vault to lock it up, but I'd need to manufacture an electronic lock for it to make it viable. I don't want to have to fumble with a lock when seconds count. Something like a car alarm door lock solenoid wired to my alarm so it locks with the doors. I'd want to route a hidden override cable in case of electronic failure. Just talking out loud.

Skipper Bob
07-04-2011, 15:19
those kind of laws just creat a stress free workplace for the bad guys

itstime
07-04-2011, 15:38
I'm going there and I'm going to say it. Hipoint. K. Out.

jack76590
07-04-2011, 19:36
You might consider a used smith - the double/single action ones with alloy frame. They generally have a magazine disconnect. Take the mag out and the gun will not function. I sometimes use one as a car gun. In most places where guns are prohibited a loaded mag is still ok.

If you return to your car and have your own gun stuck in your face, nice to know gun pointed at you will not work. It might happen as a BG could figure you have more guns at home.