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xdime
06-25-2011, 23:45
I am looking to build my first AR. I have been doing a lot of looking around so I get the right functionality and looks. I have seen a lot of billet builds and I love the way they look. But I keep seeing people bashing them and say forged is the way to go. So school me on the pros and con's....I am looking at either a Quentin Defense and Sun Devil. I am looking at a billet lower and upper.

boomhower
06-26-2011, 00:41
I say forged. Billet is only good for looks. Forged is cheaper and in general stronger. That said, a sun devil lower is quality and will serve you fine. If I ever do a forged build it will be larue.

RMTactical
06-26-2011, 00:52
If you buy from a reputable manufacturer, I doubt you will have a complaint either way...

cooden
06-26-2011, 08:00
You want quality? Look at Mega Arms. They make some stuff for Rainier as well. I just built a billet Mega lower with the Mega monolithic upper. This is probably the tightest rifle I have owned. I would have no problem putting this up against anything else as far as strength is concerned.

eracer
06-26-2011, 08:04
I'm of the 'lower doesn't matter as long as it's in spec" camp.

The upper matters, because it's attached to the barrel by way of the barrel extension. Those three parts essentially determine all of the rifle's accuracy limit.

faawrenchbndr
06-26-2011, 18:57
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/Chatterbox68SPCpicIV.jpg

Shasta McNasty
06-26-2011, 19:11
what's the difference between the two, you guys? all these AR options are blowing my mind :wow: lol

eracer
06-26-2011, 19:19
what's the difference between the two, you guys? all these AR options are blowing my mind :wow: lolBillet is machined from a solid piece of metal. Forged is a block of metal formed into the desired shape by a press using very high pressure dies. Cast is metal poured into a mold.

Shasta McNasty
06-26-2011, 20:17
Billet is machined from a solid piece of metal. Forged is a block of metal formed into the desired shape by a press using very high pressure dies. Cast is metal poured into a mold.


ok, that's what i was thinking. it's just like small parts for 1911's.

wow, a billet AR's got to be seriously expensive :wow:

eracer
06-26-2011, 20:24
ok, that's what i was thinking. it's just like small parts for 1911's.

wow, a billet AR's got to be seriously expensive :wow:Let's just say it adds a bit to the overall cost of ownership.:supergrin:

Shasta McNasty
06-26-2011, 20:46
Let's just say it adds a bit to the overall cost of ownership.:supergrin:


maybe that explains the price of the wilson combat AR i looked at the other day....$4,200 :wow:

or maybe it wasn't billet and it was only the name that costs so much lol

uplinker
06-26-2011, 20:59
I have both but the billet has eye appeal.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/12fvss/CB%20Lower/QD.jpg

UrbanOps
06-26-2011, 21:08
You should take a look at Black Rain as well.

M1A Shooter
06-26-2011, 21:40
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/Chatterbox68SPCpicIV.jpg

what brand is your receiver set?

mvician
06-26-2011, 22:22
what brand is your receiver set?


AR15ChatterBox marked by Quentin Defense




http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/ChatterBox/CB0001phase5006.jpg

Gribble
06-27-2011, 06:40
AR15ChatterBox marked by Quentin Defense




http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/ChatterBox/CB0001phase5006.jpg
+1 :supergrin:

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB_145_mid_length_1.jpg

boomhower
06-27-2011, 10:16
maybe that explains the price of the wilson combat AR i looked at the other day....$4,200 :wow:

or maybe it wasn't billet and it was only the name that costs so much lol

Their charging about $2500 for the name. You can get a damned good Larue Predatar with billet for $1500. IMHO it's the best overall deal in AR's going right now. Stripped lowers can be had from the like of Sun Devil for $170 or $320 for an upper/lower set.

xdime
06-29-2011, 23:08
AR15ChatterBox marked by Quentin Defense




http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/ChatterBox/CB0001phase5006.jpg

How many rounds do you have through your Quentin set? Any problems?

mvician
06-30-2011, 01:47
How many rounds do you have through your Quentin set? Any problems?


How many? I don't really keep a count, 2 range trips, maybe 500 rounds each time give or take. If it was my only rifle, the round count would be higher. :supergrin:


No problems with the receivers, QD makes great stuff.


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/ChatterBox/ChatterBox_CB0001040.jpg

Gribble
08-17-2011, 12:39
How many? I don't really keep a count, 2 range trips, maybe 500 rounds each time give or take. If it was my only rifle, the round count would be higher. :supergrin:


No problems with the receivers, QD makes great stuff.


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/ChatterBox/ChatterBox_CB0001040.jpg

Round count tends to stay a tad low when you have a dozen or so Ar's to shoot..........:rofl:

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/CB_145_mid_length_Range_Day_2.jpg

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Qm0p_WbSUME" allowfullscreen="" width="425" frameborder="0" height="349"></iframe>

faawrenchbndr
08-17-2011, 13:45
How many rounds do you have through your Quentin set? Any problems?


I'm up to about 3400 rounds fired.
2500 of that was 5.56mm,.....it is currently a 6.8 SPC, never skipped a beat!

faawrenchbndr
08-17-2011, 13:47
How many rounds do you have through your Quentin set? Any problems?


I'm up to about 3400 rounds fired.
2500 of that was 5.56mm,.....it is currently a 6.8 SPC, never skipped a beat!

Round count tends to stay a tad low when you have a dozen or so Ar's to shoot..........:rofl:



:faint:

Serbonze
08-17-2011, 14:16
A billet lower can be designed to reinforce areas of the lower, which could lead to a "stronger" lower. *Billet will be a better fitting lower since it is milled on a CNC machine, and should, in theory, be closer to spec than a mass produced forged or cast lower.

One of the things I really like about a billet lower is that they can engineer unique features into it. *For example, on my Quentin Defense billet lower*they tapped the hole for the bolt catch and replaced the roll pin with a threaded allen pin.

M&P15T
08-17-2011, 14:22
I'd summize that billet does nothing for an AR other than look good. If you want to get the best value for your AR dollars, don't bother with it. If the "cool" factor is important to you, then by all means, get it.

It seems to me that there are plenty of high quality ARs out there, and it would be best to focus on getting quality stuff for your money, rather than wasting your dollars on looks.

But that's just my opinion.

faawrenchbndr
08-17-2011, 14:23
Darn good points,......my Quentin Defense billet upper/lower locks up like a bank vault!

.50 cal
08-17-2011, 15:28
I have both but the billet has eye appeal.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/12fvss/CB%20Lower/QD.jpg

that is a good looking lower, does anyone know the brand? does it leave the factory with that finish?

faawrenchbndr
08-17-2011, 15:40
Not sure, but if ya like billet, check out the videos in this link!

http://ar15chatterbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1571

Gribble
08-20-2011, 05:32
Not sure, but if ya like billet, check out the videos in this link!

http://ar15chatterbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1571

Yep they have new military commemorative ones now too........:supergrin:

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/ARMYLower.jpg

Gribble
09-01-2011, 05:13
Got the shipping notice yesterday........:supergrin:

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/USArmyReceiver002.jpg
http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj475/Cansler_Tactical/USArmyReceiver001.jpg

UniversalBrow06
09-01-2011, 15:11
Their charging about $2500 for the name. You can get a damned good Larue Predatar with billet for $1500. IMHO it's the best overall deal in AR's going right now. Stripped lowers can be had from the like of Sun Devil for $170 or $320 for an upper/lower set.

This has to be true IMHO. The Pred is a complete top tier piece of awesomeness, and with Billet to boot. If LaRue can get it down to $1,500 others shouldn't have that much difficulty.

BBJones
09-01-2011, 16:46
Billet for bling and just because you can. Not for me but I understand why they appeal to others.

Forged because they work.

Javelin
09-01-2011, 17:37
If money is no object and I were looking at a billet at I would go for the new gen 2 Noveske lower with a vltor upper personally.

:)

BBJones
09-01-2011, 19:03
If money is no object and I were looking at a billet at I would go for the new gen 2 Noveske lower with a vltor upper personally.

:)

Aren't the Gen2 lowers forged?

Javelin
09-01-2011, 20:00
Aren't the Gen2 lowers forged?

I guess your right! They are forged. I still want one though. They are beefy and flared.