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RMA
07-05-2011, 20:55
Looks like some sellers are trying to get over list again...:whistling:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239989861

Hokie1911
07-05-2011, 21:02
Dude is selling himself short. He could easily get $3,200 for it. :rofl:

bac1023
07-05-2011, 21:02
I like them better without the rail. ;)

Hokie1911
07-05-2011, 21:05
I like them better without the rail. ;)

Troll. :tongueout:

glock2740
07-05-2011, 21:07
Dude is selling himself short. He could easily get $3,200 for it. :rofl:
Beat me to it. :rofl:

Mr. Gekko
07-05-2011, 21:10
Not surprised at all from STG. I visited the "shop/garage" once passing through on the way back to Phoenix and most items were priced high. Nice guys that I talked to though.

Hokie1911
07-05-2011, 21:20
Beat me to it. :rofl:

That quickly became one of the GT 1911 forum staples....

$3,200
ball washin'
Cheerios
blue waffles
7 hour one way drive for a Kimber
Mr. Hand
Spicoli

glock2740
07-05-2011, 21:42
That quickly became one of the GT 1911 forum staples....
Spicoli


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/spicoli2.jpg

knedrgr
07-06-2011, 05:47
that's a sharp looking gun!

glock2740
07-06-2011, 05:54
I like them better without the rail. ;)
Ditto. :thumbsup: Although someday I think I want at least one railed 1911. But it won't be a real pricey one.

GJ1981
07-06-2011, 05:58
It's not a bad price honestly. New Pro's are around $2700-2800, so beating the wait makes it balance out for some. Now, if it was an old used model for $3K...:whistling: Makes me consider getting mine refinished and posting it :tempted:.

The last railed model I saw came with a fully-ramped barrel...wonder why :dunno:

asiparks
07-06-2011, 10:33
i know he says it's new, but is there some wear in the black T on the barrel hood ?

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/239989000/239989861/pix259340332.jpg

lawdog734
07-06-2011, 10:43
I like this one with the full rail better:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239011958

midliferally
07-06-2011, 11:35
I agree with Lawdog. The only railed model I like the looks of. (But not for 3200.00)

GJ1981
07-06-2011, 11:46
i know he says it's new, but is there some wear in the black T on the barrel hood ?
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Factory test firing, some window lickers possible racking the slide a few times, along with how soft Black-T is would make sense.

bac1023
07-06-2011, 11:52
Ditto. :thumbsup: Although someday I think I want at least one railed 1911. But it won't be a real pricey one.

I hear you, Joe.

I just never think I could buy one. :dunno:

If I had a need for one, it would be different.

Glockdude1
07-06-2011, 12:02
Very nice Springfield.

:cool:

BuckyP
07-06-2011, 12:49
I like this one with the full rail better:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239011958

Yes, but he's asking $99.95 too much for it. :tongueout:

mes228
07-06-2011, 16:13
I own a Springfield Professional. I've owned several full customs and several semi-customs. The Pro really is worth 3K in my opinion both for quality and function. I only have one pistol I like better. Apply the analogy of Randall Knives, the "wait" from the day of order until delivery is quite long. A portion of the price of used Randal's is an offset for not having to wait 5 years. I've read on other boards of people waiting approx. 24 months to get a Pro. They are worth the wait though. A $200-$400 premium for a two year wait is not unreasonable. Also if not abused a few hundred rounds down the tube is "break in" rounds you don't have to pay for.

Shasta McNasty
07-06-2011, 16:40
not too bad of a price for a PRO Operator.

Ruggles
07-06-2011, 17:05
I hear you, Joe.

I just never think I could buy one. :dunno:

If I had a need for one, it would be different.

http://i52.tinypic.com/11r3why.jpg


Oh yeah baby you have a need for one.........

RedsoxFan4Lyfe
07-06-2011, 17:13
It nice, but for $3K Im going to get a Wilson, Nighthawk, Ed Brown or a Les Baer over a Springfield. I am sure they are exceptional guns, but for that money I want one of the big name 1911's in my safe.

Call me pretentious but that's my view on it.

rsxr22
07-06-2011, 17:51
It nice, but for $3K Im going to get a Wilson, Nighthawk, Ed Brown or a Les Baer over a Springfield. I am sure they are exceptional guns, but for that money I want one of the big name 1911's in my safe.

Call me pretentious but that's my view on it.

Im with you on the NH or WC, but not the others. SACS is very prestigious among the 1911 world. They make the "Professional" for a few Gov't agencies. They are much better quality in my experience than LB or EB.



Does Springer use the same frame as Colt does on the Rail Gun?

Shasta McNasty
07-06-2011, 18:15
Im with you on the NH or WC, but not the others. SACS is very prestigious among the 1911 world. They make the "Professional" for a few Gov't agencies. They are much better quality in my experience than LB or EB.



Does Springer use the same frame as Colt does on the Rail Gun?


no, they use the MC Operator railed frame.

mes228
07-07-2011, 05:37
I would not put the Wilson, Night Hawk, or Les Bare (I've not owned an Ed Brown) automatically over a Springfield Professional. Maybe individual pistols luck out and might be found to be better. I have a Les Bare Mono Heavy that I like "better" (on some days). I don't think I've owned anything that is a better "combat/fighting" hard nosed 1911. There are no bells & whistles in design or execution on a Pro - it is all serious business executed very well.

Just to contrast. My 10X custom has serrated flat top, French Borders, different machining on the front (sleepy and can't remember the technical name) vertical serrations on the rear, no front serrations, and several other artistic, aesthetic touches. The Pro has NOTHING. However there is a beauty in functional simplicity. I view the PRO as a SERIOUS pistol (if that makes any sense). I think it the ultimate fighting 1911. And if I knew I was going to a fight that's the 1911 I'd take EVERY TIME.

GJ1981
07-07-2011, 05:59
There are no bells & whistles in design or execution on a Pro - it is all serious business

The same can be said for ANY of the 1911's in that price range, none that I can think of have anymore "frills." Some have even less, such as the Baer TRS.

I'm not even going to start with my view of the Pro since that isn't the point here, but let's say, the hype wore off after multiple returns for reliability issues.

If you love the Pro, great, but it isn't the end-all IME.

mes228
07-07-2011, 08:17
Just curious, what reliability issues did you have? I've seldom heard of any problems with the Pro. I've had no failures of mine to run with any ammo. I have had a problem just recently with Wilson ETM mags that were stored loaded for several months, feeding the first round into the chamber. That's a mag problem as every other mag I have (even lowly Taurus) run perfectly. The ETM's did also until stored loaded (they still work perfectly if loaded only to 7 rounds). I've owned Yost, Clark, Baer, Wilson, Colt, Smith, Taurus, and several others that don't come to mind at the moment. I'd personally put the Pro as at least equal to any of those in every respect.

Bodyarmorguy
07-07-2011, 08:44
I have a Pro that I found very lightly used with the box, certificates, mags, etc for $2100 almost two years ago. I have custom build guns that I have paid between $2k and $5k for (Heinie Series 70 Colt, Yost-Bonitz Springfield, Dave Erickson Colt OACP and a Burton Built Heirloom gun) and I would rank the Springer Pro right in there as a $2500-$3000 pistol.

Operationally the only feature that I do not really care for is the Novak rear sight. It's functional and provides a great sight picture, but I prefer a profile like the Heirloom Precision Pro Grade or Heinie Ledge that make for easier 1 handed manipulations. From a looks standpoint, I don't like 3 hole triggers and replaced mine with a Harrison long IonBond'd model

And black VZ grips just dress it up right.

In well over a thousand rounds through the gun I saw one malfunction and admittedly the gun was dirty and bone dry. A quick shot of CLP and it was back in action.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/DSC_0017.jpg

Hokie1911
07-07-2011, 09:09
Sweet lookin' Pro you have there. :thumbsup: I am a huge fan of JH's triggers too.

GJ1981
07-07-2011, 09:44
Just curious, what reliability issues did you have? I've seldom heard of any problems with the Pro.

I've seen several issues from recent Pros, a buddies was sent back for feeding issues, though he was resolved. I know this guy had similar troubles like me - http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=318834 Most people act shocked when a Pro has issues, me, I say meh.

I've had countless FTFeeds through mine, all most every one was a "bolt over base" type. In the beginning it would NOT feed a round when using the slide stop, only when doing the slingshot method but even then I had failures. It was returned only to come back with an adjusted extractor. I played the alphabet soup game of magazines from Wilsons to Tripps, CMC's, factories, etc. Nothing made a difference. I had other 1911's that ran just fine with the above mags so I knew it was the pistol.

I continued having the same issue, so it was returned again within a month or so. They polished the FR, throat, and breachface, adjusted the extractor again, and tried a EGW mag release. I came back much better but still not where it should be for its name and price.

I gave up after the second trip and ended up shelling out the $ to another shop for repairs. It hasn't given me any issues since, however I do not shoot it much. I lost a BUNCH of faith in it, it is mainly just a "to have" pistol to me.

Sadly, I just sent my SA Custom Carry back for the second time for reliability issues. I used to think I had bad luck, but four returns now total, I don't think so.