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glock_ME
07-07-2011, 14:44
My wife and I have a place we bike and run through the woods quite often. There is hardly ever anyone there and it is in a very rural and unpopulated part of northern Maine.

I tend to carry my Ruger Alaskan chambered in .454 Casull in a chest holster under a partially unzipped fleece when I bike or hike through the woods. Call me crazy but I'd never want to meet a bear or moose with their young or in a bad mood without some sort of plan B. If you live in bear/moose country most likely you understand.

So i set off on my bike in one direction on this 4 mile loop and my wife takes off jogging the other direction. I soon meet up with her and figure I have enough time to complete 2 loops and some singletrack before she finishes one loop and we meet back at the truck.

About 1200' feet from my truck on my second loop I meet up with her on the trail. She is headed toward me and visibly upset.

She had made it back to the truck and was about to open it when a man approached her and asked for a ride. Now keep in mind we are not even remotely within walking distance of anything - it's miles to the nearest house. She politely declines and immediately but nonchalantly starts putting some safe distance and the truck between her and the guy. He continues asking for a ride, asking where she lives, asking if she's alone, if she's cold, how old she is. She wisely dismisses herself in polite northern Maine fashion and quickly heads in the direction she knows I'll be approaching from.

Upon hearing all this I of course am on tilt because her intuition is usually spot on but in the back of my mind I'm really thinking this guy is just mentally challenged or socially awkward.

We exit the woods and he's standing there by my truck. A million scenarios are running through my mind as to how to handle this situation and I just approach him cautiously paying careful attention to his demeanor and his hands. I know my draw from my chest holster is a bit awkward and isn't as quick as my waistband holster draw.

It really wouldn't have taken much hostility on his part at that moment to convince me to draw and shoot. Taking the entire situation into account - our remoteness, his previous interaction with my wife, the amount of time it would take the state police to respond (no local police up there), my slow draw - I figure I have very little room for error if his intentions are bad and I need to be very proactive.

Let me take a moment to frame for you what this guy is seeing. He sees a guy and his wife - whom he had just spoken with and she had taken off like a whitetail deer when he tried to talk to her - approaching him. I am by no means a small guy and I probably had a very inquisitive if not grumpy look on my face.

The guy opens his mouth to speak and - I can only assume - he notices the hunk of Ruger on my chest. Even having a somewhat large chest that thing still looks huge on me and the six rounds of .454 casull in the ammo band don't help matters.

Now it's his turn to politely dismiss himself from the situation and head god-only-knows-where in very quick fashion. I never even got more than a "hi, how's it going?" out of my mouth and he was halfway down the road.

I never will know what his intentions were, maybe he did just need a ride. I guess he didn't need one that badly after all.

silvrevo
07-07-2011, 15:00
Time for wifey to start carrying somthing!!! Mace, stun gun,, get her own gun.

And I for one would have Had that Gun exposed walking up to him,,, you knew he was no good. He wasnt in a postion to report you.

I was looking for one important thing in your story,,, and Im happy to have seen it.

YOU WERE WATCHING HIS HANDS !!!!!! I do that alot dealing with the general public at my place of work.

toshbar
07-07-2011, 15:28
I'm glad you didn't fire, both eardrums would have been sonically dissolved.

AA#5
07-07-2011, 15:49
"So i set off on my bike in one direction on this 4 mile loop and my wife takes off jogging the other direction."

Not how I would have done it with a significant other - especially in a secluded area.

glock_ME
07-07-2011, 15:56
Time for wifey to start carrying somthing!!! Mace, stun gun,, get her own gun.

And I for one would have Had that Gun exposed walking up to him,,, you knew he was no good. He wasnt in a postion to report you.

I was looking for one important thing in your story,,, and Im happy to have seen it.

YOU WERE WATCHING HIS HANDS !!!!!! I do that alot dealing with the general public at my place of work.


My wife wants all the perks of carrying without all the pesky hard work associated with it. She knows when she is ready to devote the time and training she can have whatever carry gun she wants.

As for the gun being exposed...I wondered afterword if that holster would be considered just an open-carry situation (which is 100% legal and smiled upon here) or if it borders on brandishing. It's pretty blatant and ridiculous looking but it is holstered.

glock_ME
07-07-2011, 15:58
I'm glad you didn't fire, both eardrums would have been sonically dissolved.


Agreed. I've only shot .454 casull a handful of times due to the expense/thrashing and I have worn muffs over plugs and still had it be loud.

It ain't right, but it sure is fun!

A6Gator
07-07-2011, 16:38
Better to have it and not need it...

AggieGlock
07-07-2011, 16:45
Yikes. Glad the story ended the way it did.

LASTRESORT20
07-07-2011, 16:55
Great read..glad it turned out well for All...

Patchman
07-07-2011, 18:05
Damn, from your headline, I thought it was going to a tantalizing story, maybe about how you made friends with some hot woman because she noticed the gat in your pocket.

** wink, wink ***

Glad you and wife are OK. Good lesson and hope it was learned.

dcc12
07-07-2011, 18:23
I think I might have drawn gun and hid it under jacket over arm if I thought the draw would be awkard.

H&K 4 LIFE
07-07-2011, 18:38
Thanks for sharing.

If your gut tells you something is wrong, chances are there is in fact something wrong. People who are legitimate typically do not flee. By your presence alone, you may very well have foiled an insidious plot.

At least yourself and everyone you care about is safe. :)

GlockinNJ
07-07-2011, 18:43
Good story telling. Could have gone very bad. Definitely a reminder that one never knows when and where SHTF might happen and to be vigilant.

alfred10
07-07-2011, 18:49
My wife and I have a place we bike and run through the woods quite often. There is hardly ever anyone there and it is in a very rural and unpopulated part of northern Maine.

I tend to carry my Ruger Alaskan chambered in .454 Casull in a chest holster under a partially unzipped fleece when I bike or hike through the woods. Call me crazy but I'd never want to meet a bear or moose with their young or in a bad mood without some sort of plan B. If you live in bear/moose country most likely you understand.

So i set off on my bike in one direction on this 4 mile loop and my wife takes off jogging the other direction. I soon meet up with her and figure I have enough time to complete 2 loops and some singletrack before she finishes one loop and we meet back at the truck.

About 1200' feet from my truck on my second loop I meet up with her on the trail. She is headed toward me and visibly upset.

She had made it back to the truck and was about to open it when a man approached her and asked for a ride. Now keep in mind we are not even remotely within walking distance of anything - it's miles to the nearest house. She politely declines and immediately but nonchalantly starts putting some safe distance and the truck between her and the guy. He continues asking for a ride, asking where she lives, asking if she's alone, if she's cold, how old she is. She wisely dismisses herself in polite northern Maine fashion and quickly heads in the direction she knows I'll be approaching from.

Upon hearing all this I of course am on tilt because her intuition is usually spot on but in the back of my mind I'm really thinking this guy is just mentally challenged or socially awkward.

We exit the woods and he's standing there by my truck. A million scenarios are running through my mind as to how to handle this situation and I just approach him cautiously paying careful attention to his demeanor and his hands. I know my draw from my chest holster is a bit awkward and isn't as quick as my waistband holster draw.

It really wouldn't have taken much hostility on his part at that moment to convince me to draw and shoot. Taking the entire situation into account - our remoteness, his previous interaction with my wife, the amount of time it would take the state police to respond (no local police up there), my slow draw - I figure I have very little room for error if his intentions are bad and I need to be very proactive.

Let me take a moment to frame for you what this guy is seeing. He sees a guy and his wife - whom he had just spoken with and she had taken off like a whitetail deer when he tried to talk to her - approaching him. I am by no means a small guy and I probably had a very inquisitive if not grumpy look on my face.

The guy opens his mouth to speak and - I can only assume - he notices the hunk of Ruger on my chest. Even having a somewhat large chest that thing still looks huge on me and the six rounds of .454 casull in the ammo band don't help matters.

Now it's his turn to politely dismiss himself from the situation and head god-only-knows-where in very quick fashion. I never even got more than a "hi, how's it going?" out of my mouth and he was halfway down the road.

I never will know what his intentions were, maybe he did just need a ride. I guess he didn't need one that badly after all.

Get the wife a Glock 19. I would carry somethinmg in addition to the 454 for two legged critters.

wrenrj1
07-07-2011, 18:53
Just another story where having a CCW weapon prevented something from happening. Unfortunately statistics are not tracked regarding these incidents. Glad it worked for you.

redbaron007
07-07-2011, 18:57
Glad to hear things turned out in your best interest.


:wavey:

red

AA#5
07-07-2011, 19:12
I think I might have drawn gun and hid it under jacket over arm if I thought the draw would be awkard.

Actually, with a short-barreled gun, it can be held in the shooting hand, tucked under the opposite arm, with the other arm folder over too, like a casual arms folded posture. Done that for years process serving.

cowboy1964
07-07-2011, 19:20
Agreed. I've only shot .454 casull a handful of times due to the expense/thrashing and I have worn muffs over plugs and still had it be loud

You're counting on a defensive firearm you've only shot "a handful of times"??? Esp. one you seem to have some reservations about regarding controllability and loudness?

More range time!

NMG26
07-07-2011, 19:39
Glad you where carrying!

Interesting scene, I would have liked to have been able to read his mind in those few seconds.

bmylesk
07-07-2011, 19:48
my only concern now is hoping this creep doesn't find someone else. some innocent lady.
i hope you turned in his description to the authorities.

Unistat
07-07-2011, 19:49
...I never will know what his intentions were, maybe he did just need a ride. I guess he didn't need one that badly after all.

Don't kid yourself for a minute. He was up to no good. That was not normal behaviour on his part to persist and ask your wife all of those questions.

DOrth
07-07-2011, 19:57
Don't kid yourself for a minute. He was up to no good. That was not normal behaviour on his part to persist and ask your wife all of those questions.

I agree completely.

Donn57
07-07-2011, 22:05
It really wouldn't have taken much hostility on his part at that moment to convince me to draw and shoot.


This is the part that caught my attention. I don't know the laws in your state, but I would think some type of overt threat would need to be made to justify a shooting.

racer88
07-07-2011, 22:34
Don't kid yourself for a minute. He was up to no good. That was not normal behaviour on his part to persist and ask your wife all of those questions.

+1 x 1000!

No doubt about it. Thanks for sharing the story.

milje
07-07-2011, 22:56
I was petty close to buying a .454 Ruger Alaskan last year at a gun show. Still kind of wish I would have, it was a great deal. A bit overkill on the bears around here, but thats my favorite way!


Glad it all turned out well.

Lior
07-08-2011, 01:17
Thanks for being a good husband there and defusing a potentially explosive situation. Seems like a gun against two-legged predators can be a good thing too.

Maine1
07-08-2011, 02:24
from your description of this guys behavior he sounds like a dirt bag. He has likley pulled this stunt before- did you guys report it?

glock_ME
07-08-2011, 03:42
You're counting on a defensive firearm you've only shot "a handful of times"??? Esp. one you seem to have some reservations about regarding controllability and loudness?

More range time!


I admit to only putting a box or two of .454 through it but I have put countless rounds of .45 colt through it. I feel prepared to hit my target with it.

I also practice with .38 through most of my .357's but I feel prepared with those as well.

blownhemi
07-08-2011, 03:45
Are you planning on reporting the incident to anyone?

It seems pretty clear that the guy was up to no good and, while no real crime was committed, the police might like a heads up on anyone looking to do wrong in their area.

Just a thought?

Thanks for sharing by the way.

Chevy327
07-08-2011, 04:01
Thanks for sharing.

If your gut tells you something is wrong, chances are there is in fact something wrong. People who are legitimate typically do not flee. By your presence alone, you may very well have foiled an insidious plot.

At least yourself and everyone you care about is safe. :)

+1

I'm glad you guys are safe!

Darkangel1846
07-10-2011, 08:23
Glad you were packing,your wife should pack also. Hope you told the LEOS about this guy.

wnr700
07-10-2011, 14:35
You tote a cannon for moose and bear, but rode four miles ahead and left your wife defenseless? :faint:

Glad this can be a constructive lesson for both of you.

BK63
07-10-2011, 15:17
There are way too many scumbags in the world up to no good. Make sure she has something with her to protect herself. This could have gone awfully wrong if you were not there.

LongGoneDays
07-10-2011, 19:26
If you feel that it is prudent to carry a gun, then go to an area where you feel it prudent to carry even more gun that usual, you should be working on getting her to carry.

At least that's how I'd be looking at it if I was in your shoes.

FiremanJim
07-10-2011, 19:34
You tote a cannon for moose and bear, but rode four miles ahead and left your wife defenseless? :faint:

Glad this can be a constructive lesson for both of you.

I would never allow my wife to be in that much potential danger and me be fairly safe and secure.....

happyguy
07-11-2011, 06:14
You tote a cannon for moose and bear, but rode four miles ahead and left your wife defenseless? :faint:

Glad this can be a constructive lesson for both of you.

He did not leave her defenseless, she has chosen to be defenseless.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

HarleyGuy
07-11-2011, 09:21
First, it's great that everything worked out peacefully.

Ya'll have a responsibility to report this to the authorities and the sooner the better.
The next "victim" may not be as lucky as your wife.

You need to convince your wife to get her carry license and if nothing else a pocket-rocket to scare off the two-leg varmits.

glock_ME
07-11-2011, 10:07
He did not leave her defenseless, she has chosen to be defenseless.
Regards,
Happyguy :)


This. I can't keep her on a leash and be with her at all times.

She goes from wanting a carry gun to "I don't need one, I'm fine, stop worrying so much" in 10 minutes flat.

I refuse to get into those arguments anymore. I also refuse to run and she doesn't like biking so I guess you could say we are at an impasse. :whistling:

All I can do is what I can do personally and that is to protect myself. I obviously feel responsible for her well being but my ability to protect her depends on her ability to let me protect her. The protocol as of right now is that I am official "check out noises in the living room at night" guy and now apparently person in charge of "warding off weirdos in the woods".


Also, we have reported a description of events and a description to the State Police barrack up here. They think they know who the guy was and they claim he is harmless albeit a bit slow. I'm not sure if that makes me feel better or not...

FLglockdude
07-11-2011, 16:53
Open carry prevented this. :whistling:

fmfdocglock
07-11-2011, 19:34
People sometimes forget that even in the middle of nowhere the likelihood is that 2 legged animals being a problem is still 100 times more likely than 4 legged animals.

Even a little Ruger LCP would have deterred the 2 legged dirtbag.

He was definitely up to no good.

steveksux
07-11-2011, 20:04
Don't kid yourself for a minute. He was up to no good. That was not normal behaviour on his part to persist and ask your wife all of those questions.Sounds like he was interviewing her to be his next victim.

Randy