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Strawberry 5
07-24-2011, 23:18
Found this contest for a 10/22
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f12/ruger-10-22-sporter-contest-45126/

Assuming I win , what would be the best .22 round for it? Granted It's just a .22 but i still wouldn't want to be shot by it. Out in the boondocks so neighbor penetration isn't a problem.

scorpio2011
07-24-2011, 23:49
i like cci velocitors in my .22lr's

TED
07-25-2011, 01:41
40gr round nose. To ensure adequate penetration, particularly from pistols, and to ensure reliable feeding.

I also adviocate FMJ in .25 and .32 for the same reasons.

TED

eracer
07-25-2011, 05:39
i like cci velocitors in my .22lr'sBest .22 LR round out there, in my opinion. Hyper-velocity and superior accuracy.

Darkangel1846
07-25-2011, 07:11
Stingers.

PATRICE
07-25-2011, 07:19
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eclark53520
07-25-2011, 07:28
Stingers.

Although i don't believe .22lr is a good self defense round in general, the stinger is probably the worst round out of all the .22 loading available.

IMO, penetration is the name of the game here. I want a heavy bullet(as far as 22lr is concerned anyway) with a round nose to get as much penetration as possible when using such an anemic caliber.

A very light, hollow point bullet is exactly what I would stay away from, and that's exactly what the Stinger is. The only thing it has going for it is velocity...even then, the velocitor is only 8ftlb less energy at the muzzle and will have much better penetration and terminal ballistics than the stinger round.

ArizonaPhil
07-25-2011, 07:46
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"

scorpio2011
07-25-2011, 07:52
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9#p/u/12/N7plzIVmLlU
http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9#p/u/44/u_jEfcszqcQ

SJ 40
07-25-2011, 08:18
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9#p/u/12/N7plzIVmLlU
http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9#p/u/44/u_jEfcszqcQPrior to viewing the links you posted I would have said CCI Stingers but now I would have to say Velocitors. Having used Stinger over the years, with satisfaction they were my go to for hunting but IIRC they came out in the late 70"s and the times are a changing. SJ 40

Berto
07-25-2011, 08:33
I'd use the highest energy 40gr or 36gr solid like the CCI Mini Mag. It's generally more reliable (less duds) and gets good velocity and penetration.

PATRICE
07-25-2011, 08:46
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shark_za
07-25-2011, 13:07
In a revolver , CCI SGB if you can find it.
In a Semi like the 10/22 and High Velocity Solid of 40gr.

rhino673
07-25-2011, 13:13
I vote for the .223

HotRoderX
07-25-2011, 13:19
CCI Stingers hands down in my opinon. Given its a 22 caliber round but I have shot grape fruit with stingers before and they explode. I know it would not have the same affect on a person. I still think at worse it hurt like hell and at best cause major internal injury's.

1 old 0311
07-25-2011, 14:11
The one taped to a brick.

PghJim
07-25-2011, 19:42
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Suby
07-25-2011, 20:42
It doesn't really matter what brand or grain you purchase just get a bulk pack of ammo(500) and throw it at your attacker, repeat until they flee or are crushed by the bulk of ammo you send their way.

Seriously I do not recommend a .22 for any kind of self defense at all ever. If you can get a .22 you can get something bigger .38 .410 shotgun etc. If you win a gun and want self defense trade it in.

Warp
07-25-2011, 20:57
I would use 40gr CRN CCI Mini Mags for self defense. Against animals up to about 3 pounds.

Jager1
07-27-2011, 18:37
40gr round nose. To ensure adequate penetration, particularly from pistols, and to ensure reliable feeding.

I also advocate FMJ in .25 and .32 for the same reasons.

Ted knows.

I would also add .380 ACP to the list, however.

vafish
07-28-2011, 16:36
Arguing about which .22 lr round is best for self defense is like two army privates arguing who has more rank

Technically one might rank higher then the other, but in the grand scheme of things there really isn't any difference.

If using a .22 lr for self defense the most important thing is reliability, pick a round that will go bang every time. The most reliable .22lr ammo I have ever used is ely.

unit1069
07-28-2011, 17:41
CCI premium .22lr is my favorite.

I like Velocitor best, with the Mini Mag and Stinger tied for second. Actually, all of them are excellent rounds. If I had to rely on .22lr for self-defense I'd load a premium CCI round in the magazines.

D-GLOCK17
07-29-2011, 12:22
Stingers.


My favorite .22lr!!!!, with CCI Minimags being a close 2nd. The Stingers have a distinct crack instead of the pop from standard velocity rounds. I like it, lol~

93GT
07-29-2011, 13:07
CCI 40 grain solids high velocity if you must.

D-GLOCK17
07-29-2011, 14:01
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"

I understand your reasoning, so it's kinda like the loudest .22lr round may be best...(for scare tactic).....

voyager4520
07-29-2011, 14:07
Ruger says in their manual for the 10/22 not to use Stingers. :dunno:

unit1069
07-29-2011, 20:11
Ruger says in their manual for the 10/22 not to use Stingers. :dunno:

Does the Ruger manual explain why they recommend against Stinger rounds?

voyager4520
07-30-2011, 10:41
Warning - "Stinger" ammunition
"Stinger" cartridges have a longer case than 22 LR cartridges loaded to U.S. Industry specifications. They can stick in the tighter chambers of target rifles, including the Ruger 10/22 Target Rifle, which can result in a hazardous ruptured case and release of hot powder gasses and brass when fired.
DO NOT USE "STINGER" AMMUNITION IN 10/22 TARGET RIFLES

That's from the Ruger 10/22 manual, they might be talking about the Target model 10/22 alone, not the other 10/22 models. :dunno:

Ike Arumba
08-01-2011, 23:30
Does the Ruger manual explain why they recommend against Stinger rounds?

I think I can answer that for the Marlin 60, and it's probably the same for the Ruger. Before taking delivery of my 60, I bought some Stinger, Quik-Shok, and Mini-Mag besides the ordinary stuff. When I got it, I read the manual, and was surprised to see the recommendation against hyper-velocity rounds (but mini-mags seem to be OK). So I hit Rimfire Central, and found the consensus answer to be that the life of the recoil buffer would be shortened. I decided to go ahead and try out what I had, but just not buy any more.

Well, my experience is that the extra recoil blows the bolt back so fast that it bounces off the buffer and closes again so fast that the case stovepipes. With a Stinger, the bolt bounced and closed again so fast that it smashed the empty case completely flat. The rifle's bolt weight and recoil spring stiffness are balanced for correct timing with standard ammo, and the hottest ammo simply throws the timing off.

DEADEYEGUY
08-08-2011, 22:06
Stingers move out of a rifle barrel at around 1500 f.p.s.. And are still moving over 1000 f.p.s. even out of short barreled .22 pistols. I have a friend that has hand strength problems. The only thing she can shoot well is a .22, She has a Ruger MK II loaded with Stingers that she can shoot very well. 10+1 in the chest, neck, and head would sure ruin someones day.

HAMMERHEAD
08-09-2011, 10:33
Stingers for my Mark II
Velocitors for my 10/22.

eracer
08-28-2011, 07:27
Stingers for my Mark II
Velocitors for my 10/22.Accuracy better with Stingers in the pistol?

Or is there another reason you don't use Velocitors in your Mark II?

happyguy
08-28-2011, 08:29
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Regards,
Happyguy :)

glockeglock
11-09-2011, 00:44
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barth
11-09-2011, 03:02
Used lots of different 22LR hunting.
CCI Stingers outperformed everything else by a wide margin.

That said, I think anything less than 9mm/38
and you're going to experience penetration issues with center mass shots.

Recommend practicing emptying the gun into water jugs and prepare to
shot people in the face.

Seriously

Brucev
11-09-2011, 06:42
CCI Velocitor, .22 LR 40 gr copper plated hollowpoint, CCI Stinger, CCI Mini-Mags in that order. I fired them in my S&W 18-2. They work very well. A .22LR chambered handgun is not my first choice for HD, etc., but years ago I carried a Ruger Mk. II loaded with Stingers. It was what I could afford. I got to where I could shoot sea gulls that dipped and wheeled near me when I was walking. I figured a man sized target would have been no problem. Nowadays, I use a G-22RTF. i still have a nice little Mk. II... and I still slip it into my pocket when I go walking.