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Strawberry 5
07-24-2011, 23:18
Found this contest for a 10/22

Assuming I win , what would be the best .22 round for it? Granted It's just a .22 but i still wouldn't want to be shot by it. Out in the boondocks so neighbor penetration isn't a problem.

07-24-2011, 23:49
i like cci velocitors in my .22lr's

07-25-2011, 01:41
40gr round nose. To ensure adequate penetration, particularly from pistols, and to ensure reliable feeding.

I also adviocate FMJ in .25 and .32 for the same reasons.


07-25-2011, 05:39
i like cci velocitors in my .22lr'sBest .22 LR round out there, in my opinion. Hyper-velocity and superior accuracy.

07-25-2011, 07:11

07-25-2011, 07:19

07-25-2011, 07:28

Although i don't believe .22lr is a good self defense round in general, the stinger is probably the worst round out of all the .22 loading available.

IMO, penetration is the name of the game here. I want a heavy bullet(as far as 22lr is concerned anyway) with a round nose to get as much penetration as possible when using such an anemic caliber.

A very light, hollow point bullet is exactly what I would stay away from, and that's exactly what the Stinger is. The only thing it has going for it is velocity...even then, the velocitor is only 8ftlb less energy at the muzzle and will have much better penetration and terminal ballistics than the stinger round.

07-25-2011, 07:46
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"

07-25-2011, 07:52
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SJ 40
07-25-2011, 08:18
check this out to viewing the links you posted I would have said CCI Stingers but now I would have to say Velocitors. Having used Stinger over the years, with satisfaction they were my go to for hunting but IIRC they came out in the late 70"s and the times are a changing. SJ 40

07-25-2011, 08:33
I'd use the highest energy 40gr or 36gr solid like the CCI Mini Mag. It's generally more reliable (less duds) and gets good velocity and penetration.

07-25-2011, 08:46

07-25-2011, 13:07
In a revolver , CCI SGB if you can find it.
In a Semi like the 10/22 and High Velocity Solid of 40gr.

07-25-2011, 13:13
I vote for the .223

07-25-2011, 13:19
CCI Stingers hands down in my opinon. Given its a 22 caliber round but I have shot grape fruit with stingers before and they explode. I know it would not have the same affect on a person. I still think at worse it hurt like hell and at best cause major internal injury's.

1 old 0311
07-25-2011, 14:11
The one taped to a brick.

07-25-2011, 19:42
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07-25-2011, 20:42
It doesn't really matter what brand or grain you purchase just get a bulk pack of ammo(500) and throw it at your attacker, repeat until they flee or are crushed by the bulk of ammo you send their way.

Seriously I do not recommend a .22 for any kind of self defense at all ever. If you can get a .22 you can get something bigger .38 .410 shotgun etc. If you win a gun and want self defense trade it in.

07-25-2011, 20:57
I would use 40gr CRN CCI Mini Mags for self defense. Against animals up to about 3 pounds.

07-27-2011, 18:37
40gr round nose. To ensure adequate penetration, particularly from pistols, and to ensure reliable feeding.

I also advocate FMJ in .25 and .32 for the same reasons.

Ted knows.

I would also add .380 ACP to the list, however.

07-28-2011, 16:36
Arguing about which .22 lr round is best for self defense is like two army privates arguing who has more rank

Technically one might rank higher then the other, but in the grand scheme of things there really isn't any difference.

If using a .22 lr for self defense the most important thing is reliability, pick a round that will go bang every time. The most reliable .22lr ammo I have ever used is ely.

07-28-2011, 17:41
CCI premium .22lr is my favorite.

I like Velocitor best, with the Mini Mag and Stinger tied for second. Actually, all of them are excellent rounds. If I had to rely on .22lr for self-defense I'd load a premium CCI round in the magazines.

07-29-2011, 12:22

My favorite .22lr!!!!, with CCI Minimags being a close 2nd. The Stingers have a distinct crack instead of the pop from standard velocity rounds. I like it, lol~

07-29-2011, 13:07
CCI 40 grain solids high velocity if you must.

07-29-2011, 14:01
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"

I understand your reasoning, so it's kinda like the loudest .22lr round may be best...(for scare tactic).....

07-29-2011, 14:07
Ruger says in their manual for the 10/22 not to use Stingers. :dunno:

07-29-2011, 20:11
Ruger says in their manual for the 10/22 not to use Stingers. :dunno:

Does the Ruger manual explain why they recommend against Stinger rounds?

07-30-2011, 10:41
Warning - "Stinger" ammunition
"Stinger" cartridges have a longer case than 22 LR cartridges loaded to U.S. Industry specifications. They can stick in the tighter chambers of target rifles, including the Ruger 10/22 Target Rifle, which can result in a hazardous ruptured case and release of hot powder gasses and brass when fired.

That's from the Ruger 10/22 manual, they might be talking about the Target model 10/22 alone, not the other 10/22 models. :dunno:

Ike Arumba
08-01-2011, 23:30
Does the Ruger manual explain why they recommend against Stinger rounds?

I think I can answer that for the Marlin 60, and it's probably the same for the Ruger. Before taking delivery of my 60, I bought some Stinger, Quik-Shok, and Mini-Mag besides the ordinary stuff. When I got it, I read the manual, and was surprised to see the recommendation against hyper-velocity rounds (but mini-mags seem to be OK). So I hit Rimfire Central, and found the consensus answer to be that the life of the recoil buffer would be shortened. I decided to go ahead and try out what I had, but just not buy any more.

Well, my experience is that the extra recoil blows the bolt back so fast that it bounces off the buffer and closes again so fast that the case stovepipes. With a Stinger, the bolt bounced and closed again so fast that it smashed the empty case completely flat. The rifle's bolt weight and recoil spring stiffness are balanced for correct timing with standard ammo, and the hottest ammo simply throws the timing off.

08-08-2011, 22:06
Stingers move out of a rifle barrel at around 1500 f.p.s.. And are still moving over 1000 f.p.s. even out of short barreled .22 pistols. I have a friend that has hand strength problems. The only thing she can shoot well is a .22, She has a Ruger MK II loaded with Stingers that she can shoot very well. 10+1 in the chest, neck, and head would sure ruin someones day.

08-09-2011, 10:33
Stingers for my Mark II
Velocitors for my 10/22.

08-28-2011, 07:27
Stingers for my Mark II
Velocitors for my 10/22.Accuracy better with Stingers in the pistol?

Or is there another reason you don't use Velocitors in your Mark II?

08-28-2011, 08:29
Your question is a lot like asking, "What pocket knife if best for fencing?"


Happyguy :)

11-09-2011, 01:44

11-09-2011, 04:02
Used lots of different 22LR hunting.
CCI Stingers outperformed everything else by a wide margin.

That said, I think anything less than 9mm/38
and you're going to experience penetration issues with center mass shots.

Recommend practicing emptying the gun into water jugs and prepare to
shot people in the face.


11-09-2011, 07:42
CCI Velocitor, .22 LR 40 gr copper plated hollowpoint, CCI Stinger, CCI Mini-Mags in that order. I fired them in my S&W 18-2. They work very well. A .22LR chambered handgun is not my first choice for HD, etc., but years ago I carried a Ruger Mk. II loaded with Stingers. It was what I could afford. I got to where I could shoot sea gulls that dipped and wheeled near me when I was walking. I figured a man sized target would have been no problem. Nowadays, I use a G-22RTF. i still have a nice little Mk. II... and I still slip it into my pocket when I go walking.