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GJ1981
07-26-2011, 14:55
My final SA Custom Carry is finally done. This one has been easting away at me for a few reasons, but that's all behind me...I hope.

Specs:

5" 1911 .45acp
Fit slide to National Match Frame
Bar-Sto Match Barrel - Flush cut with 11 degree drown
EGW Carry Bevel Bushing
EGW Monogram Carry Bevel Plug
Highcut front strap (Colt style)
Heinie SlantPro rear sight
Front tritium sight
C&S Super Match hammer, sear, disconnector. 3.5# pull
Solid long curved trigger.
Ed Brown Extended thumb safety
CYLINDER & SLIDE forged slide stop, flush cut with frame
Carry Bevel
Ed Brown grip safety
Legacy Custom flat mainspring housing butt rounded
Hardchrome entire pistol
Machine Checkering front strap and mainspring housing 20lpi
Grips G10 Grips for the time being.




AND NOW, for the pics

























Don't have any...the pistol is only done and on the way to my FFL, not in my hands yet :tongueout:



It may stay in my collection, or if someone who likes hard chromed pistols wants it, maybe a deal will be meet. I haven't been able to decide since it's not in my hands.


It feels like Christmas in July, this 1911 is on the way, my Novak Colt is almost done, my Milt Sparks order is shipping, and I have a HK45 on the way. I think I truly am done until 2012...so much for being done buying pistols.

I blame RMA for the two HK's.

Hokie1911
07-26-2011, 14:57
Hope your SACS troubles are finally behind you.

bac1023
07-26-2011, 15:03
Congrats! :cool:

...looking forward to the pics.

bac1023
07-26-2011, 15:05
Hope your SACS troubles are finally behind you.

:agree:

TKR Reptiles
07-26-2011, 15:07
Awesome, congrats!

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 15:08
Hope your SACS troubles are finally behind you.

:agree:

I SERIOUSLY hope so too...otherwise I might just shoot the thing with the HK.

Death by plastic :rofl:

polizei1
07-26-2011, 15:12
Awesome Gary, I really hope it works out for you. I don't think I would be as patient.

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 15:17
I don't think I would be as patient.

I had to help train Iraqi Army buffoons when I was AD, so this SA ordeal wasn't anything compared to those dip****s. I guess I still have some patience left after all.

drc767
07-26-2011, 15:18
Very cool, Gary. Be sure to post some pictures and a range report when you get it.

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 15:24
Very cool, Gary. Be sure to post some pictures and a range report when you get it.

Pics should be quick as long as my FFL gets it logged in in a timely manner. Range report.....might be a little longer.

On a side note, I'm very appreciative of what you told me about your 1911 situation. I'm going to pass on him after all, which is good since Novak's is close to completing my build.

CMG
07-26-2011, 15:31
I love how you dangled the "hard chrome" out there for one of the regulars! :supergrin:

I do hope this one performs as well as you need!

limbkiller
07-26-2011, 15:50
Seems you're on a roll. Everybody needs to get on one every know and then. Congrats!!!

Buckfever4life
07-26-2011, 15:55
Congrats, any reason why you did not go with a Kart NM Barrel over Bar-Sto?

38 Super Fan
07-26-2011, 15:59
Congrats! Looking forward to to seeing that, sounds awesome. Hopefully this one will work out for you.

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 16:15
Congrats, any reason why you did not go with a Kart NM Barrel over Bar-Sto?

No real reason honestly. I have several builds with Kart's, I just wanted to try a different barrel. I was going to have a Nowlin barrel used but I talked myself out of it.

Quack
07-26-2011, 16:24
Good Luck!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_X3lNYc1hcaE/TPR42IXF_hI/AAAAAAAAA6M/Eby32ZOsGaE/s1600/all-counting.jpg

TKR Reptiles
07-26-2011, 16:53
If you end you end up not liking it, I got five on it... :animlol:

drc767
07-26-2011, 17:01
Pics should be quick as long as my FFL gets it logged in in a timely manner. Range report.....might be a little longer.

On a side note, I'm very appreciative of what you told me about your 1911 situation. I'm going to pass on him after all, which is good since Novak's is close to completing my build.

No problem......I usually don't air dirty laundry like that, but when I got your email stating your intentions, I figured I had a duty to at least give you the information.

iLift45's
07-26-2011, 18:19
Congrats man! Pics or it didn't happen. :rofl:

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 18:28
Pics or it didn't happen. :rofl:

I just had a butterfingers moment with my camera so no pics for the foreseeable future :animlol:



But to have at least a pic here for now, the one SA I should have never sold.


<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2crsiol" target="_blank"><img src="http://i56.tinypic.com/2crsiol.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

iLift45's
07-26-2011, 18:44
I just had a butterfingers moment with my camera so no pics for the foreseeable future :animlol:



But to have at least a pic here for now, the one SA I should have never sold.


<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2crsiol" target="_blank"><img src="http://i56.tinypic.com/2crsiol.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

Yeah man. That was a mistake selling that beauty. I love my Custom Shop modded TRP Operator. Beautiful gun.

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 18:54
Oddly, I sold that Pro since I had my non-rail Pro on order and wanted to order my Custom Carry(s). Had I only known what I was getting into..

polizei1
07-26-2011, 18:55
I had to help train Iraqi Army buffoons when I was AD, so this SA ordeal wasn't anything compared to those dip****s. I guess I still have some patience left after all.

Oh man I'm sorry. :faint:

I've heard some stories about them, but I haven't had to leave the states. Good, bad? :dunno:

midliferally
07-26-2011, 19:02
Good luck Gary. You are due some SA good luck!!!! Pics as soon as possible!!

GJ1981
07-26-2011, 19:12
Oh man I'm sorry. :faint:

I've heard some stories about them, but I haven't had to leave the states. Good, bad? :dunno:

BAAADDDD!!!!

95% of them had zero disciple, didn't take anything seriously, didn't listen, played stupid...everything was a game to them. I remember one of the guys wanting to trade his AK for a few MRE's, I am not kidding.

I was a M2 gunner, one day we took the turds with us to help pull security since it was during one of the pilgrimages they had. I was doing rear security when one dip**** parked his damn truck RIGHT in front on my M2.

When I threw a water bottle at one of them they acted confused, like they had no idea what the problem was. Either they were that stupid,VERY possible, or someone was working for the insurgents (very common) and they thought I wouldn't shoot through their truck, hah.

You can't tell from the photo but here this guy has the muzzle of his AK buried into the ground. Disregard my CO playing with his M9, he had it out since that IA wanted to trade his AK for it. To sum up dealing with IA/IP(Even worse) is like babysitting children who ate pounds of sugar/etc, except children have more sense.


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lawdog734
07-26-2011, 19:45
I was talking to an FBI friend who just came back from afganistan. They are not much better over there. He was telling me horror stories of trying to teach the judges about fingerprints.

glock2740
07-26-2011, 20:03
Congrats! I hope this turns out to be a good one. I can't wait to see some pictures.

RMA
07-26-2011, 20:09
I am drooling over your well optioned CC. I can't wait to see the pics but judging by your railed Pro it should not look much different. I'm happy to oblige in your new HK acquistions btw = )

knedrgr
07-26-2011, 20:35
I just had a butterfingers moment with my camera so no pics for the foreseeable future :animlol:



But to have at least a pic here for now, the one SA I should have never sold.


<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2crsiol" target="_blank"><img src="http://i56.tinypic.com/2crsiol.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

Sounds like an awesome build. Can't wait to see the specs.

And that rail CC is wicked!

Sounds like you're on a roll. I hope the good luck finds its way back to you.

knedrgr
07-26-2011, 20:37
Yeah man. That was a mistake selling that beauty. I love my Custom Shop modded TRP Operator. Beautiful gun.

That's a full custom SACS build. Not a modded TRP Operator. Modded production gun doesn't get the SACS logo.

Hokie1911
07-26-2011, 20:39
That's almost exactly how I spec'd a railed CC and priced with Deb. I was loving it and close to doing it ........until she told me the price. :faint:

up1911fan
07-26-2011, 20:42
I'd like to order a SACS one day, it'll be a few years though.

GeorgiaRedfish
07-26-2011, 21:25
Good luck man, I know that thing will at least look sweet.

skdmrklcy
07-26-2011, 22:06
Perhaps you are having issues as a result of angering some spirit when selling the other custom shop... I would wash the new one in some holy water first, then take her out. Should be perfect then.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 04:53
And that rail CC is wicked!

I hope the good luck finds its way back to you.

Actually that was my very first Professional. The previous owner had it refinished in NP3 or similar. It is the one I should have never sold, but I talked myself out of needing a railed 1911 then...live and learn.

My luck took a slight twist last night, a damn skunk had slithered under my fence before I let my dogs outside :shocked:

Not a direct spray/hit but it was 10 ft outside my house :puking:

polizei1
07-27-2011, 05:13
Ah man my dog got hit earlier this year, also not a direct hit but man she smelled even after 3 baths!

Lol I sure hope your luck turns around.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 14:43
Alright, I am going to give a no BS assessment of my new Springfield Custom Carry. These are MY opinions, so if you do not agree with something I said, please leave it out of this thread. Even though the one person I'm thinking of is on my ignore list, I'd rather avoid a locked thread.

The initial feel of the pistol is very similar to most SACS's, somewhat tough to rack, but this one isn't ridiculous. It takes some pull to rack the slide but nothing over the top. When hand cycling, it doesn't fully close the slide but closes without issue when I used some Action dummy rounds.

The slide isn't as smooth as some pistols I've owned, but it is brand new and should smooth out with rounds. I can feel a recoil buffer in it, which will go to the trash after I disassemble it. I'm not expecting a VIS/"bow-tie" in the frame or a bevel on the guide rod.

The trigger is very smooth, around 3.5-4# I'd guess. The thumb safety is also well fit all though it is not firm as I would have liked. The grip safety disengages with the slightest pressure, just the way I like.

Now, the PROBLEMS, yes, this pistol has a few problems. The first is SA used a few incorrect parts, how this happened, I have no idea. It was supposed to have a Wilson extended mag release, I got a standard SA part. The rear sight was supposed to be a .145" cut, I got a .125", and finally, I think they used the wrong hammer. I requested http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=195643&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Gunsmithing%20-%20Gun%20Parts%201911%20%28Not%20Grips%2C%20Magazines%29-_-PriceCompListing-_-195643 but received what appears to be http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=165545

The next problem area is some QC issues. The magwell has some noticeable file marks and dents that can be felt with a fingernail. I don't think they are enough to snag a mag, just something that should have been noticed.

The last thing is the grip safety fit, IMO, it should have been better. I'll let an up close pic show that issue.


So there it is, my review. I do not know if I'll keep this pistol or not, still have to think it over. I feel I shot myself in the foot if I would try since I'm giving a honest review of what I see wrong. I know, no pistol it perfect, and I firmly believe in function over form. I'm just calling it the way I see it, after all, this pistol cost just as much as a SA Pro. At this price point, consumers have reasonable expectations of the visual and function details, IMO.

I suck at taking pics, and HC makes it worse, so blah...


<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01355.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01355.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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Tried a few indoors, not much better...maybe worse.

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GJ1981
07-27-2011, 14:43
They rounded the butt nicely
<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01361.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01361.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


Might not be able to tell, but here are some of the marks inside the magwell
<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01363.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01363.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


And a close up of the grip safety fit. I know Brown GS's are not the best choice for standard SA's grip tangs, but I would have thought the Custom Shop wouldn't have used one if it would be an issue. Don't know if there's more to the fit or someone just rushed it.

<a href="http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01362.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01362.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

polizei1
07-27-2011, 14:51
Wow awesome pistol. I say shoot it and see if it has any problems. The magwell is bound to get messed up anyway, as long as it feeds/drops fine I don't see an issue other than cosmetics.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 15:15
The magwell is bound to get messed up anyway, as long as it feeds/drops fine I don't see an issue other than cosmetics.

That's the way I'm looking at it, just pointing out what I saw is all.

GeorgiaRedfish
07-27-2011, 16:05
Dude all the problems you listed would enrage me especially after all the crap you've been through, I just cannot believe it. I hope it functions fine. I think I will be sending my GI somewhere else (Roger Precision or John Harrison), because this crap is ridiculous. I am sorry my friend.

CMG
07-27-2011, 16:06
I agree the mag well will get wear, but it shouldn't look like that out of the box!

The grip safety fit is also poorly done, and at the price point you paid, should have been much better, IMO.

Using the wrong parts on a spec'd build should never be acceptable either.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 16:11
..........

Hokie1911
07-27-2011, 16:21
I agree the mag well will get wear, but it shouldn't look like that out of the box!

The grip safety fit is also poorly done, and at the price point you paid, should have been much better, IMO.

Using the wrong parts on a spec'd build should never be acceptable either.

^^^This^^^

:steamed:

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 16:37
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polizei1
07-27-2011, 16:59
I would probably go with what we discussed in the PM's Gary. How much longer are you going to bend over and take it?

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 17:04
......

TKR Reptiles
07-27-2011, 17:20
Man I can't believe that crap after all the bc you went through and the money you spent. I am pissed for you! That GS fitting is atrocious for a "custom shop" job, the scratches on the site and inside of the magwell would really get my blood pressure up, but the thing that would make me just go through the roof is the fact that they got the parts wrong. That is unacceptable when they have a DETAILED build sheet.

I am sorry it didn't turn out the way you wanted it to bro.

samuse
07-27-2011, 17:26
That grip safety no lookey too good.

Hard chrome will magnify any imperfection.

From the Pros I've handled and my Custom Carry, I think Springfield is best left to use their own parts. It seems like they can do their thing well, but going for a full custom may be a bit out of their area of expertise.

That's a pretty traditional lookin' build compared to some of your others. It looks nice.

It reminds me of vanilla with those grips on it.

Z28ricer
07-27-2011, 17:28
That grip safety no lookey too good.

Hard chrome will magnify any imperfection.

From the Pros I've handled and my Custom Carry, I think Springfield is best left to use their own parts. It seems like they can do their thing well, but going for a full custom may be a bit out of their area of expertise.

That's a pretty traditional lookin' build compared to some of your others. It looks nice.

It reminds me of vanilla with those grips on it.

But for those looking to have something all bar stock, and wanting the few parts that are MIM they might use, replaced with something else, it really shouldnt be all that much to ask.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 17:29
.....

jjdubious48195
07-27-2011, 17:56
I am a Guncrafter guy, but that still looks damn nice. If it shoots and hits where you aim it then it is a keeper.

wrx04
07-27-2011, 18:28
The gun looks really good.

Sucks to see it wasnt perfect after all the BS you've been through. I had problems with one of my guns too, and am still waiting for that to get resolved. Insanely frustrating, especially on a "high end" weapon. Hopefully it runs great, and the only defects are cosmetic.

Good luck man.

RMA
07-27-2011, 19:00
Sorry to hear about all the flaws. It does look damn sweet though. And I am almost certain it will perform to your standards but yes you drop that much coin on a NEW custom order you should get 100% perfection or damn close to it.

GJ1981
07-27-2011, 19:10
Sorry to hear about all the flaws. It does look damn sweet though. And I am almost certain it will perform to your standards but yes you drop that much coin on a NEW custom order you should get 100% perfection or damn close to it.

Yep, I told you what I'm going to do about all this. I'll see how it plays out...

glock2740
07-27-2011, 19:56
Alright, I am going to give a no BS assessment of my new Springfield Custom Carry. These are MY opinions, so if you do not agree with something I said, please leave it out of this thread. Even though the one person I'm thinking of is on my ignore list, I'd rather avoid a locked thread.

The initial feel of the pistol is very similar to most SACS's, somewhat tough to rack, but this one isn't ridiculous. It takes some pull to rack the slide but nothing over the top. When hand cycling, it doesn't fully close the slide but closes without issue when I used some Action dummy rounds.

The slide isn't as smooth as some pistols I've owned, but it is brand new and should smooth out with rounds. I can feel a recoil buffer in it, which will go to the trash after I disassemble it. I'm not expecting a VIS/"bow-tie" in the frame or a bevel on the guide rod.

The trigger is very smooth, around 3.5-4# I'd guess. The thumb safety is also well fit all though it is not firm as I would have liked. The grip safety disengages with the slightest pressure, just the way I like.

Now, the PROBLEMS, yes, this pistol has a few problems. The first is SA used a few incorrect parts, how this happened, I have no idea. It was supposed to have a Wilson extended mag release, I got a standard SA part. The rear sight was supposed to be a .145" cut, I got a .125", and finally, I think they used the wrong hammer. I requested http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=195643&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Gunsmithing%20-%20Gun%20Parts%201911%20%28Not%20Grips%2C%20Magazines%29-_-PriceCompListing-_-195643 but received what appears to be http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=165545

The next problem area is some QC issues. The magwell has some noticeable file marks and dents that can be felt with a fingernail. I don't think they are enough to snag a mag, just something that should have been noticed.

The last thing is the grip safety fit, IMO, it should have been better. I'll let an up close pic show that issue.


So there it is, my review. I do not know if I'll keep this pistol or not, still have to think it over. I feel I shot myself in the foot if I would try since I'm giving a honest review of what I see wrong. I know, no pistol it perfect, and I firmly believe in function over form. I'm just calling it the way I see it, after all, this pistol cost just as much as a SA Pro. At this price point, consumers have reasonable expectations of the visual and function details, IMO.

I suck at taking pics, and HC makes it worse, so blah...


http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01355.jpg (http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&current=DSC01355.jpg)

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/DSC01354.jpg (http://s319.photobucket.com/albums/mm441/gj1981/SA%20Custom%202/?action=view&current=DSC01354.jpg)


Congrats! Damn good looking gun IMO. :thumbsup:

Hokie1911
07-27-2011, 20:19
Given your recent history with SACS heaters, and the fact that you are already unhappy with specifics of this gun after an 18 month wait...I'd sell that sucker as is, unfired...and wash your hands of SACS. There are far too many good builders in the $2,000+ market to deal with what you have.

jedi573
07-27-2011, 20:40
I also noticed that it lacks the "Springfield Custom" logo. Any particular reason why this is? My thought is that it would arguably hurt resale value if someone doesn't seem to believe it's the genuine article.

Sorry to hear about your issues! Looks like a nice gun, though.

Andy

thecableguy
07-27-2011, 21:17
That's a full custom SACS build. Not a modded TRP Operator. Modded production gun doesn't get the SACS logo.

I also noticed that it lacks the "Springfield Custom" logo. Any particular reason why this is? My thought is that it would arguably hurt resale value if someone doesn't seem to believe it's the genuine article.

Sorry to hear about your issues! Looks like a nice gun, though.

Andy

See first quote.

Hokie1911
07-27-2011, 21:26
See first quote.

Huh? :headscratch:

Gary's gun is a full on build (hence the 18 month build time). Not a modded gun. As to not having the "Springfield Custom" front end... I assume he has the SACS build sheet and that would be sufficient in proving authenticity.

thecableguy
07-27-2011, 21:29
Huh? :headscratch:

Gary's gun is a full on build (hence the 18 month build time). Not a modded gun. As to not having the "Springfield Custom" front end... I assume he has the SACS build sheet and that would be sufficient in proving authenticity.

I thought it was one he sent in. My BAD Richard.:tongueout:

Hokie1911
07-27-2011, 21:36
I thought it was one he sent in. My BAD Richard.:tongueout:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this is the 2nd CC he was waiting for. Not his Pro or the CC he has sent back a few times. :dunno:

pistolwrench
07-27-2011, 21:40
I think the gun looks pretty darn nice.
No, it's not the cosmetic equal of a build from Heirloom Precision, but
I'd guess it didn't cost as much either.
I'd like to see a few more shots of the magwell interior, most specifically the rear wall.
I'd also like to see the itemized invoice, with pricing.

thecableguy
07-27-2011, 21:56
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this is the 2nd CC he was waiting for. Not his Pro or the CC he has sent back a few times. :dunno:

Now I am confused.:dunno::crying:

MD357
07-27-2011, 23:12
I think the gun looks pretty darn nice.
No, it's not the cosmetic equal of a build from Heirloom Precision, but
I'd guess it didn't cost as much either.
I'd like to see a few more shots of the magwell interior, most specifically the rear wall.
I'd also like to see the itemized invoice, with pricing.

+1

I like the gun aswell....but I expected that any minor problem would be the end of the world.

Don't SAs have to be welded to get a perfect/seamless fit on a GS?

GJ1981
07-28-2011, 04:52
I also noticed that it lacks the "Springfield Custom" logo. Any particular reason why this is?

I ordered it without the markings for a cleaner look. I have the COA showing it was built by their shop.

I assume he has the SACS build sheet and that would be sufficient in proving authenticity.

They only give build sheets for pistols you send in. Ground up builds just get COA's. I have all the emails with my Word documents of the specs when planning the build out, not that it matters now.

I think the gun looks pretty darn nice.
No, it's not the cosmetic equal of a build from Heirloom Precision, but
I'd guess it didn't cost as much either.
I'd like to see a few more shots of the magwell interior, most specifically the rear wall.
I'd also like to see the itemized invoice, with pricing.

I do agree that it does look and feel nice, and maybe they way I have come across is making things sounds worse than they really are. I know no pistol is perfect, and I have no issues with that. I just expected a little more than I got is all.

I just listen to those much more knowledgeable than me when they talk about 1911's -
"First place we look, first feature commented on........
is the grip safety fit,

It is 'usually' a pretty decent indicator of what you will find inside
the pistol."
http://www.1911pro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=108

I'll try for a few outdoors pics of the MW as long as it doesn't rain today.

Again though, I didn't get a detail sheet of the work/pricing, but I do have the emails.

skdmrklcy
07-28-2011, 08:18
Well that sucks, I would be beyond upset at this point. You seem to be handling it quite well.

I personally would just walk away from it... Not worth the stress and bother. Easy to say when its not my who knows how much money involved. I have been looking on GunBroker for used SA Customs and never see them mostly over 3k... seem to hold the value at least.

:(

majette
07-28-2011, 08:43
I blame RMA for the two HK's.

the force is strong in this RMA.

GJ1981
07-28-2011, 12:15
I'd like to see a few more shots of the magwell interior, most specifically the rear wall.
I'd also like to see the itemized invoice, with pricing.

My pics will not be near what some can do, but hopefully this will suffice. They didn't cut back as much as I was hoping for, but I thought it was possible with the Chen MSH??


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GJ1981
07-28-2011, 12:15
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And the best I can do since they don't give itemized sheets is the COA. I changed the grips and trigger out (had a spare fitted at SA) but it's still the same pistol as it was yesterday.

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Z28ricer
07-28-2011, 12:41
Me personally, I wouldnt even be bothering with those magwell pics, that wouldnt bother me, thats not to say its a non issue, but the grip safety, that would make me furious.

I'm still wanting a sacs compact, but may have to consider not going that route, if thats what passes for paying that much more money, and getting nothing better. IMO

dreis454
07-28-2011, 13:22
IMO A very nice looking piece,but DAMN! 18 months? what did they do,whittle it out of a chunk of steel?

BTW,those white grips look like white chocolate.

bac1023
07-28-2011, 13:31
The magwell probably wouldn't bother me much. The grip safety is a different story and using the wrong part is ridiculous.

That said, the gun looks very nice overall.

GJ1981
07-28-2011, 14:08
Me personally, I wouldnt even be bothering with those magwell pics, that wouldnt bother me, thats not to say its a non issue, but the grip safety, that would make me furious.


I'm not worried about the MW, just kinda of surprised it was missed. The GS is the only thing that bothers me, but it is what it is for now. Time for the waiting game...


I18 months? what did they do,whittle it out of a chunk of steel?


It's a LONG story that I'm not going to air here. I've found their time estimates are VERY off. I sent them two small projects that were only supposed to be 8-12 weeks. It ended up being 6-7 months.

The problem I saw from my smaller projects was two members here sent SA work after me and got theirs back fairly quick...something was off there. I believe the cause of this delay reared its head and helped the 18 month wait here.

woodrowNC
07-28-2011, 22:47
Pics should be quick as long as my FFL gets it logged in in a timely manner. Range report.....might be a little longer.

On a side note, I'm very appreciative of what you told me about your 1911 situation. I'm going to pass on him after all, which is good since Novak's is close to completing my build.

novaks did a bhp for me yrs ago. very nice pistol. very cool folks to deal with. tritiums getting a little dull. thinking of some straight 8's.

GJ1981
07-29-2011, 06:00
I had Novak build me a BHP about two years ago too. They did a very good job.

I am really looking forward to the Colt they are building for me. The wait hasn't been too bad, it will be one year at the end of August, exactly what they quoted.

samuse
07-29-2011, 06:13
The grip safety doesn't look bad when it's not magnified so much.

Maybe they could fix it, but it'd probably take a long time with having to rechrome.

FWIW the worst grip safety fit I've ever had was on an Ed Brown.

The two ugliest, sloppiest made 1911s I've ever owned were a Rock River and a Les Baer.

I was having your 1911 luck a couple of years ago, but it was not such expensive guns.
Sometimes you just get an ugly one.

GJ1981
07-29-2011, 06:23
The grip safety doesn't look bad when it's not magnified so much.

No, it's not the end of the world to me, just a disappointment for what passes as acceptable for the price tag. It does have noticeable side-to-side slop, which is annoying.

Maybe they could fix it, but it'd probably take a long time with having to rechrome.

I'm not letting them touch anything at this time. Something else will have to make this right, but I'm not going into it here.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Guess that makes me a moron...:embarassed:

FWIW the worst grip safety fit I've ever had was on an Ed Brown.

I saw a pretty nasty Brown too, but I think someone didn't even try to blended it from the factory. It too passed as good enough...can't find the pics right now but know it was an ar15 member.

I was having your 1911 luck a couple of years ago.

Sure is frustrating, good thing I have other pistols for CCW/HD.


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