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fnfalman
07-30-2011, 23:12
I'm curious but is it just ARMSCOR making a bunch of guns with different names for the various American brands? Or there are more than one Filipino arms manufacturer?
beasleydano
07-31-2011, 00:06
3 companies manufacturing 1911s as far as I know.
tango44
07-31-2011, 00:14
3 companies manufacturing 1911s as far as I know.

Which ones?

Armscor...?
beasleydano
07-31-2011, 00:34
Armscor, Shooters Arms Mfg (S.A.M.), Metro Arms are the only 3 I know of that produce 1911 models.
bac1023
07-31-2011, 05:57
I'm curious but is it just ARMSCOR making a bunch of guns with different names for the various American brands? Or there are more than one Filipino arms manufacturer?

Armscor
SAM
Metro
Fedor
07-31-2011, 07:25
My LGS said they all come out of the same factory, is this true?
bac1023
07-31-2011, 08:02
My LGS said they all come out of the same factory, is this true?

Not that I'm aware of, but who knows. :dunno:

I will say that the three of them are quite a bit different from one another.
Quack
07-31-2011, 08:28
My LGS said they all come out of the same factory, is this true?

false, different factories
bac1023
07-31-2011, 08:33
false, different factories

I would certainly think so.
sexybeast
07-31-2011, 09:09
Metro Arms & Armscor - Manila
SAM - Cebu

Speaking of Metro Arms. Here is a new product of theirs coming out soon. Priced the same as firestorm and american classic.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0983.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0984.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0985.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0986.jpg
bac1023
07-31-2011, 09:19
I heard about a new bobtailed model being introduced, but I wasn't sure of the price. If its that cheap, it will certainly sell very well.
limbkiller
07-31-2011, 13:58
I heard about a new bobtailed model being introduced, but I wasn't sure of the price. If its that cheap, it will certainly sell very well.
Yes it will. I'll have one for sure.
bac1023
07-31-2011, 14:00
Yes it will. I'll have one for sure.

It looks good. That chainlink pattern seems well done. My Firestorm DLX has a decent trigger, so this model should be a winner at that price.

There really aren't any lower priced bobtailed 1911s on the market.




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Fedor
07-31-2011, 14:05
That Bobtail looks nice, any idea when they will hit the market?
bac1023
07-31-2011, 14:07
I imagine for this market, they will be marked "American Classic".
limbkiller
07-31-2011, 14:29
I would rather the gun be in a blued version but it might work out as it will be my CC if it is reliable. I like SS better as sweat causes lots of rust issues. Will get rid of that hammer though.
1 old 0311
07-31-2011, 14:29
30 years ago I had a Squires Bingham .22. It was a S&W Model 17 knock off. Actually it was pretty well built and totally reliable.
bac1023
07-31-2011, 14:39
I would rather the gun be in a blued version but it might work out as it will be my CC if it is reliable. I like SS better as sweat causes lots of rust issues. Will get rid of that hammer though.

Yeah, my Firestorm has the same trigger and hammer, though you can't see the hammer in this pic.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/001-6.jpg
limbkiller
07-31-2011, 15:02
My AC II was built before they put that MA in the hammer.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/limbkiller/DSC00279.jpg
jrs93accord
07-31-2011, 15:10
Yeah, my Firestorm has the same trigger and hammer, though you can't see the hammer in this pic.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/001-6.jpg

You can barely see it i n this pic of mine.

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3748/dsc00878gd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/2/dsc00878gd.jpg/)
limbkiller
07-31-2011, 15:18
Don't know what the sn is on your guns but mine is below 80. The rear sight is differant too. My other MAs is the G.I. version with a sn below 60.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/limbkiller/DSC00276.jpg
bac1023
07-31-2011, 15:21
Don't know what the sn is on your guns but mine is below 80. The rear sight is differant too. My other MAs is the G.I. version with a sn below 60.



Mine is 458.
limbkiller
07-31-2011, 15:37
On the G.I. version my two best friends and I have 55, 56, and 57. Pretty cool since we didn't buy them at the same time. Hell one was bought in a pawn shop months after the other two were bought. What are the odds huh?
bac1023
07-31-2011, 19:19
On the G.I. version my two best friends and I have 55, 56, and 57. Pretty cool since we didn't buy them at the same time. Hell one was bought in a pawn shop months after the other two were bought. What are the odds huh?

That is cool. :cool:
KalashniKEV
07-31-2011, 20:03
If any one of them could chill with the billboards, they would eat up the other two- as well as a good chunk of the budget/econo/entry market.
bac1023
07-31-2011, 20:09
If any one of them could chill with the billboards, they would eat up the other two- as well as a good chunk of the budget/econo/entry market.

Iver Johnson isn't too bad with the billboards. They're built by SAM.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3885.jpg
sexybeast
07-31-2011, 23:28
I heard you can customize the roll marks if you order directly from them. And you have to be in the Philippines. :)
bac1023
08-01-2011, 04:22
I heard you can customize the roll marks if you order directly from them. And you have to be in the Philippines. :)

:rofl:
KalashniKEV
08-01-2011, 09:56
I heard you can customize the roll marks if you order directly from them. And you have to be in the Philippines. :)

I wonder if I could undercut RIA on price if I contracted to have a series of No-Name Tacticals built?

It is one less manufacturing step...

Group Buy, anyone?
:cool:
awpk03s
08-01-2011, 12:43
Metro Arms & Armscor - Manila
SAM - Cebu

Speaking of Metro Arms. Here is a new product of theirs coming out soon. Priced the same as firestorm and american classic.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0983.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0984.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0985.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg75/houseofcamo/GEDC0986.jpg

Please please share some more info/details/links on this....
I picked up a Metro Arms Gov Model for like $400 a couple years ago. If this is anywhere CLOSE to what current M.A. guns are selling for price wise I will buy one fast as *****.
jrs93accord
08-01-2011, 13:13
Iver Johnson isn't too bad with the billboards. They're built by SAM.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3885.jpg

The Iver Johnsons are very well built and finished. I love the two I have.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6928/001qj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83/001qj.jpg/)