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joemannnnn
07-31-2011, 08:34
Hey Guys,
I picked up a new Dan Wesson CCO for carry after ditching my g19. This will be my first time carrying a 1911. I'm not thrilled with the grips that came with the gun, and was looking to replace them. I'm was leaning towards some black vz operators, but have been advised they are very aggressive. Does anyone have experience with the vz etc's, 320's, or gators? Any other offerings from vz or Larry Davidson that would be a good fit for carry? Open to other options as well. I have checkered cocobolo on my other guns, and am quite happy, just looking to try something darker and different.
Thanks
Joe

GJ1981
07-31-2011, 08:44
The regular Operators are very soft, IMO. The Operator II's are a little rougher but not much. VZ Diamond Backs are great and I would say they are the roughest of what I listed.

It's hard to say how you'd take the textures since I have rough hands and even the real aggressive grips like the VZ Recons feel soft to me.

Quack
07-31-2011, 08:47
Cocobolo full checkered grips here.

joemannnnn
07-31-2011, 08:52
Cocobolo full checkered grips here.

Yea, you lead me to the Ahrends a few months ago, the combat checkered. I do like them, but want to try something different for carry.

My concern isn't my hands. It is clothing getting hung up, or my sides getting roughed up from iwb carry.

skdmrklcy
07-31-2011, 09:18
I love the 4x4s from Larry.

I plan to try some ETC grips from VZ at some point.

djackson
07-31-2011, 09:24
I really like the Operator II from VZ, here is a link to thread of Joes new CCO wearing the operators

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1358754

joemannnnn
07-31-2011, 09:40
I really like the Operator II from VZ, here is a link to thread of Joes new CCO wearing the operators

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1358754

I completely agree, that's where I got he idea. But I have been warned they are too aggressive for carry iwb. I'm told they will grab clothing, possibly revealing the gun, and also rub on my side causing discomfort. If this not the case, I'm simply getting these.

drc767
07-31-2011, 09:50
I completely agree, that's where I got he idea. But I have been warned they are too aggressive for carry iwb. I'm told they will grab clothing, possibly revealing the gun, and also rub on my side causing discomfort. If this not the case, I'm simply getting these.

You can smooth them out a bit with some 400-grit sandpaper if you find them to be too aggressive. That is what I did on those grips on Joe's CCO.

djackson
07-31-2011, 10:10
Yea it was daves first lol

Rimcrew
07-31-2011, 10:12
I have become partial to the alumagrips for my carry pieces. They are interesting in that they do not look aggressive and are smooth when rubbing against my side, but they really stick to my hand when it's around the gun. I run with the gun rubbing against my side, and they don't make a raw spot like the others I have tried did.

polizei1
07-31-2011, 10:56
I have Warthog's from Larry D on my EMP and I like them a lot. They have good grip, but are not abrasive and don't catch on my cloths at all. I actually wouldn't mind something a bit more aggressive. Though, I think these grips are a very nice blend of "aggressive and smooth." They keep my hand planted, but after shooting a while my hands don't hurt either. Great grips!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/polizei1/IMG_0473.jpg

skdmrklcy
07-31-2011, 11:13
Warthogs are what was on my TRP, they were some sharp grips. Did not move in your hand, but it was not nice.

Some sand paper made them 1000x better and actually very very nice grips.

Deadarrow
07-31-2011, 11:28
I have Aluma grips on my Kimber UC. They are the smooth black grips. My reasoning behind this is, they don't snag on your clothing, they don't rub my skin raw and they will last forever. All my competition guns have either checkered or rubber grips and they serve the purpose nicely. Yes I have shot the Kimber in several matches and having smooth aluminum grips has never been an issue. Grips are a personal preference thing and you just have to try several types till you find what you like. In time you will end up with a collection of grips and holsters that gather dust in a drawer somewhere.

glock2740
07-31-2011, 11:57
The regular Operators are very soft, IMO. The Operator II's are a little rougher but not much.
I agree. Plus, you can always take some 600 grit sandpaper and knock some of the rough edges down a little without affecting the look of the grip at all.

glock2740
07-31-2011, 11:59
You can smooth them out a bit with some 400-grit sandpaper if you find them to be too aggressive. That is what I did on those grips on Joe's CCO.

These...
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/IMG_3594.jpg


:)

69Charger
07-31-2011, 12:04
Can't go wrong with a good set of checkered wood, with your front strapped textured or a good old strip of grip tape.
Dave

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/69Charger123/P4115951-1.jpg

CMG
07-31-2011, 12:21
Can't go wrong with a good set of checkered wood, with your front strapped textured or a good old strip of grip tape.
Dave



Great minds, etc. These are my carry pieces:

Sig Sauer P238
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/SigP238rw.jpg

Colt Defender 9mm
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/CDefenderrw.jpg

Kimber Ultra Carry 45
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/KUCrw.jpg

joemannnnn
07-31-2011, 13:14
These...
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/IMG_3594.jpg


:)

Joe, what are your thoughts, have you tried carrying? That is exactly the set up I'm looking to replicate. I'll let you be the guinea pig and see if your sides rub off. :tongueout:

knedrgr
07-31-2011, 13:54
I have VZ's 320 on mine. Great for IWB carry w/o needing an undershirt. And they provide sufficient texture for a nice grip.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2010-DW-CCO_black-VZ-grips.jpg

mrsurfboard
07-31-2011, 14:17
I have the Operator IIs on one of my 1911s. If you don't wear a shift between the grips and your skin, they will bother you. They are great for the range, no so much for carry.

glock2740
07-31-2011, 16:05
Joe, what are your thoughts, have you tried carrying? That is exactly the set up I'm looking to replicate. I'll let you be the guinea pig and see if your sides rub off. :tongueout:
I have CC'd it every day since I got it in a CBST and an Alessi IWB. I've never had any issues with the grips rubbing my sides. Dave knocked some of the rough edges off a little, but I've carried my TRP with Shredders and all of my CC 1911's have grips that are more sharp and grippy than the Operators on my CCO.

glock2740
07-31-2011, 16:07
I have VZ's 320 on mine. Great for IWB carry w/o needing an undershirt. And they provide sufficient texture for a nice grip.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2010-DW-CCO_black-VZ-grips.jpg
That's a good looking CCO knedrgr. :thumbsup:

Quack
07-31-2011, 16:10
That's a good looking trigger knedrgr. :thumbsup:

fixed...

djackson
07-31-2011, 16:24
flat triggers everywhere, soon enough I will fit one and give it a try.

Z28ricer
07-31-2011, 16:44
These.

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/handguns/cqb_compact/large/03.jpg

knedrgr
07-31-2011, 16:46
That's a good looking CCO knedrgr. :thumbsup:

Thanks Joe! With all this talk, about knocking the down the points on those Recon grips, are making my wheels turn.

knedrgr
07-31-2011, 16:47
flat triggers everywhere, soon enough I will fit one and give it a try.

Do it!

djackson
07-31-2011, 16:52
I'm not good dealing with peer pressure

HAIL CAESAR
07-31-2011, 17:29
You can smooth them out a bit with some 400-grit sandpaper if you find them to be too aggressive. That is what I did on those grips on Joe's CCO.

What DRC said. Just sand them down to taste.

Or...

Get grips that actually do something besides just looking pretty,

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/CCOCTLEFT.jpg

thecableguy
07-31-2011, 18:52
What DRC said. Just sand them down to taste.

Or...

Get grips that actually do something besides just looking pretty,

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/CCOCTLEFT.jpg

I am not a fan of those but they look great on that DW. Very nice.

Z28ricer
07-31-2011, 21:36
I am not a fan of those but they look great on that DW. Very nice.

Yeah, grips that are pretty in pictures are infinitely better than something functional....

awpk03s
08-01-2011, 16:42
Honestly, I really like checkered Alumagrips these days. I have Alumagrips on both of my Nighthawks and Hogues on my S&W Pro Series Subcompact.

dnuggett
08-01-2011, 19:04
Honestly, I really like checkered Alumagrips these days. I have Alumagrips on both of my Nighthawks and Hogues on my S&W Pro Series Subcompact.

I was looking at the Alumagrips as well, ended up going with the VZ Frag ETCs on my latest.

faawrenchbndr
08-01-2011, 19:33
VZ grips work well,......

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/Springfields/SpringfieldEMPwithVZ.jpg

Genin
08-01-2011, 19:41
I like my alumagrips. They are nice and grippy in my hands and haven't bothered me with carrying. I've only carried the firearm a few times since I've had it just to get the feel for it on my body (I carry my G19 EDC). They didn't rub me raw or grab my clothing at all. I think they look pretty good too.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/GeninCloud/005-3.jpg

BuckyP
08-01-2011, 20:10
Get grips that actually do something besides just looking pretty,

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/hailcaesar_photos/CCOCTLEFT.jpg

:thumbsup:
+1

http://www.pollardfamily.net/al/kc2.jpg

nolt
08-01-2011, 20:28
i really like vz FRAGs for carry...
theyre grippier than they look (to me) but still dont gnarl up your skin or clothes.
... and theyre pretty thin... thin enough to need thin bushings and screws.

but im pretty sure they make standard thickness FRAGs now as well.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-maZZWF3IZsI/TeWS9GfRMYI/AAAAAAAABZA/u-B9TiEjokA/s640/mono1.5_xs10-8.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qnwVFjWAx-U/TfvOIDy_7bI/AAAAAAAABcg/e_DRH_jzOj4/s640/TRS.jpg

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 20:39
Alumagrips. Chris will make them how you want them. :thumbsup:

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/carrystuff002.jpg

thecableguy
08-01-2011, 20:45
Yeah, grips that are pretty in pictures are infinitely better than something functional....

:upeyes:

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 20:53
Alumagrips. Chris will make them how you want them. :thumbsup:

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/carrystuff002.jpg

I Really like those. Grippier than I had expected. And the added texture to the top is a nice touch.

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 20:57
:upeyes:

my thoughts exactly. I rather train and be proficient w/ my gun and iron sights as oppose to rely on chasing some dot. But if the dot works for you, more power to you. However, that's just not my cup of tea.

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 20:57
I Really like those. Grippier than I had expected. And the added texture to the top is a nice touch.

Thanks man. Form and function. Plenty of grip and comfy against the skin with no undershirt buffer needed for all day carry.

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 21:00
we need to trade gun for the day. I want to see how a full steel bobtail would be for EDC.

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 21:16
we need to trade gun for the day. I want to see how a full steel bobtail would be for EDC.

No problem. Only problem is your VM2 for the CCO is a lefty. :crying:

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 21:22
No problem. Only problem is your VM2 for the CCO is a lefty. :crying:

quit sniffing glue...both of our VM2's are made for a commander slide. Only need to trade guns, and keep you VM2, I don't want your DNA... :tongueout::rofl:

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 21:26
quit sniffing glue...both of our VM2's are made for a commander slide. Only need to trade guns, and keep you VM2, I don't want your DNA... :tongueout::rofl:

Duh. Was thinking the CCO slide was shorter. Sorry, my brain is a little hazy. Worked 22 hours the last 2 days.

thecableguy
08-01-2011, 21:31
quit sniffing glue...both of our VM2's are made for a commander slide. Only need to trade guns, and keep you VM2, I don't want your DNA... :tongueout::rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

Z28ricer
08-01-2011, 21:32
my thoughts exactly. I rather train and be proficient w/ my gun and iron sights as oppose to rely on chasing some dot. But if the dot works for you, more power to you. However, that's just not my cup of tea.

While thats great and all at the range, unfortunately self defense means you probably wont be standing there firing at a piece of paper hanging from a string, not moving at all, in the a/c, with a great sight picture.

Having found myself in a sd situation, and having to defend myself with my vision highly blurred, I can tell you i'd have been in a worse situation, than an already bad one, had I not had a pistol with them on it.

Remember, you can easily switch them off in an instant, you cant suddenly grab them when its really going to help.

Edit: And as someone else has recently mentioned on the subject of LG's, they also help with training, you can see any movement you may involuntarily be making without firing a shot, not to mention I guess if you cant manage to switch them off at the range when you're getting all proficient with your iron sights, I guess they're just too technical for you.

glock2740
08-01-2011, 21:34
Duh. Sorry, my brain is a little hazy. Worked 22 hours the last 2 days.
Welcome back to the real world brother. Try 7 12's for about 3 1/2 months straight. On salary. On the road. Away from home. Then get back with me. :cool:

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 21:37
Welcome back to the real world brother. Try 7 12's for about 3 1/2 months straight. On salary. Then get back with me. :cool:

Try spending all day dealing with your 5 & 3 year olds, dealing with bottles, diapers, potty training, etc...for two straight years day and night. With NO SALARY. Then get back to me. :thumbsup:

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 21:41
While thats great and all at the range, unfortunately self defense means you probably wont be standing there firing at a piece of paper hanging from a string, not moving at all, in the a/c, with a great sight picture.

Having found myself in a sd situation, and having to defend myself with my vision highly blurred, I can tell you i'd have been in a worse situation, than an already bad one, had I not had a pistol with them on it.

Remember, you can easily switch them off in an instant, you cant suddenly grab them when its really going to help.


I wasn't talking about at the range, but was referring to them in a SD situation. Good thing I haven't been in a situation where I had to present my gun, God I hope to never be in that situation. However, I do train and have taken classes that practiced drills.

Like I said, YMMV, and if they work for you, great. However, they are not for me. Personally, on my pistol, I don't want to rely on an electronic device to help me get on target. It's just another thing that "can" go wrong. I don't want Mr. Murphy to show up at that wrong time, and me having to take the extra split second to figure out that my red dot is not working.

Not bashing those that choose to use it on their gun. Just stating my opinion.

dnuggett
08-01-2011, 21:46
:agree:Try spending all day dealing with your 5 & 3 year olds, dealing with bottles, diapers, potty training, etc...for two straight years day and night. With NO SALARY. Then get back to me. :thumbsup:

:agree:

knedrgr
08-01-2011, 21:49
Welcome back to the real world brother. Try 7 12's for about 3 1/2 months straight. On salary. On the road. Away from home. Then get back with me. :cool:

Had about five 12-hour days in the last month, on salary. :faint: Does that qualify for something?

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 21:50
:agree:

:agree:

I left out the part about taking the 13 year old to 3 practices and 2 games a week in the spring and summer for baseball, then in the fall for football, and basketball in the winter.

Going back to work last month doing 50 hour weeks has been way more relaxing than being a house-husband for 2 years. :rofl:

...and they are 5 & 3 now. It started at 3 & 1. Someone with no kids can't relate. :supergrin:

dnuggett
08-01-2011, 21:54
I left out the part about taking the 13 year old to 3 practices and 2 games a week in the spring and summer for baseball, then in the fall for football, and basketball in the winter.

Going back to work last month doing 50 hour weeks has been way more relaxing than being a house-husband for 2 years. :rofl:

...and they are 5 & 3 now. It started at 3 & 1. Someone with no kids can't relate. :supergrin:

No they can't. I am handling up on a 5 yo and 9 month old.... plus 60+ hrs a week at work. My free time is spent shooting. Wouldn't trade it for a second though.

Hokie1911
08-01-2011, 21:57
Free time? What is that? :rofl:

dnuggett
08-01-2011, 22:01
Free time? What is that? :rofl:

The time you spend on GT.

Z28ricer
08-02-2011, 00:06
I wasn't talking about at the range, but was referring to them in a SD situation. Good thing I haven't been in a situation where I had to present my gun, God I hope to never be in that situation. However, I do train and have taken classes that practiced drills.

Like I said, YMMV, and if they work for you, great. However, they are not for me. Personally, on my pistol, I don't want to rely on an electronic device to help me get on target. It's just another thing that "can" go wrong. I don't want Mr. Murphy to show up at that wrong time, and me having to take the extra split second to figure out that my red dot is not working.

Not bashing those that choose to use it on their gun. Just stating my opinion.

Something that cannot cause a disadvantage, is only an advantage, and at worst case puts you back to where you were without it.

As I said, its up to the end user to not rely on it, that little switch works great at the range, allows for plenty of training without, and with.

Someone in carry issues recently brought up the fact that you are very likely to end up in less than desireable conditions, it could be raining, heck your attacker could start with attempting to blind you with pepper spray, etc, in any of these situations, its a lot more likely for you to be able to get a useful shot with that device, if it doesnt work, those with it are only as worse off as simply being without it.


Plenty of people have defended themselves with .22's , most of us in here carry 1911's, someone who carrys a .22 may say they dont feel they need to rely on a bigger bullet or more powerful cartridge.

Plenty of people have defended themselves with just a couple shots, yet most of us carry 8+ and one or more spare mags.

To dismiss a very realistic, and completely non intrusive advantage such as lasergrips on a 1911, is a bit silly.

Hokie1911
08-02-2011, 06:56
Ricer, I think you're missing his point. Yes, using laser sights can be advantageous in a SHTF situation. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. However, there are some that will fall into the routine of training more with them and not the standard sights and if there is a malfunction (I carry an extra mag for that reason, not that I really would use an extra 7 rounds), and as everyone knows, mechanical devices fail (lights, batteries, mags, etc), that split second of indecision when it does could be costly. Me personally, I would rather rely on my sights for target acquisition.

MD357
08-02-2011, 07:02
VZ operator IIs with the relief cut for me.

MD357
08-02-2011, 07:07
While thats great and all at the range, unfortunately self defense means you probably wont be standing there firing at a piece of paper hanging from a string, not moving at all, in the a/c, with a great sight picture.

Having found myself in a sd situation, and having to defend myself with my vision highly blurred, I can tell you i'd have been in a worse situation, than an already bad one, had I not had a pistol with them on it.

Remember, you can easily switch them off in an instant, you cant suddenly grab them when its really going to help

So if your vision is "highly blurred" how do you know what you are shooting at? Just curious as to how this "scenario" came about so that we may learn from it.

BuckyP
08-02-2011, 07:30
my thoughts exactly. I rather train and be proficient w/ my gun and iron sights as oppose to rely on chasing some dot. But if the dot works for you, more power to you. However, that's just not my cup of tea.


I agree, you should train mostly with the irons. I'd not want to rely solely on a laser. However, I can't train (or won't :embarassed:) where someone is shooting back at me. People who have been in lethal confrontations have been interviewed, some who were avid shooters, say they never saw the sights - they were unable to take their eyes off the threat.


Like I said, YMMV, and if they work for you, great. However, they are not for me. Personally, on my pistol, I don't want to rely on an electronic device to help me get on target. It's just another thing that "can" go wrong. I don't want Mr. Murphy to show up at that wrong time, and me having to take the extra split second to figure out that my red dot is not working.


On the other hand, I lost sights on two guns in the past 2 months. The rear sight on my Colt, and the front sight on my STI. Granted, both these guns have a LOT of rounds through them. Not to mention the rear sight on my Ed Brown is loose. :crying: Anything can fail.


Not bashing those that choose to use it on their gun. Just stating my opinion.


Yep, me neither. :wavey: I would not bash those that choose against them. Heck, I don't have them on either of my current "frequent" carry guns. They don't make them for the P2000SK :crying:, and although I have a set for the G30, they make an already big grip too big. They are certainly on my J frame for those rare occasions that I am restricted to pocket carry.

Agent6-3/8
08-02-2011, 07:36
I've currently got a set of VZ Slimline ETC's on my Commander.

doc540
08-02-2011, 07:54
I carry with the VZ Operator II's.

Even in Texas heat I wear the lightest, most thin undershirts I can buy from Academy.

The left panel never touches my skin which is present in an abundant roll.:embarassed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Black%20T%20Finish/DSCN0055-1.jpg

knedrgr
08-02-2011, 11:38
Something that cannot cause a disadvantage, is only an advantage, and at worst case puts you back to where you were without it.

As I said, its up to the end user to not rely on it, that little switch works great at the range, allows for plenty of training without, and with.

Someone in carry issues recently brought up the fact that you are very likely to end up in less than desireable conditions, it could be raining, heck your attacker could start with attempting to blind you with pepper spray, etc, in any of these situations, its a lot more likely for you to be able to get a useful shot with that device, if it doesnt work, those with it are only as worse off as simply being without it.


Plenty of people have defended themselves with .22's , most of us in here carry 1911's, someone who carrys a .22 may say they dont feel they need to rely on a bigger bullet or more powerful cartridge.

Plenty of people have defended themselves with just a couple shots, yet most of us carry 8+ and one or more spare mags.

Sure laser can be an advantage. We both agree on that. Like you said, if it doesn't work, then the shooter would be back to square one with his/her iron sights. However, for if it did fail at the worst time, and the shooter was expecting it to work, then that shooter had to take a split second to rethink his/her strategy, thus wasting valuable time. That's my point. I rather not put myself into that situation where I have to rethink on going to iron sight or just point-and-shoot.

When training, I rather train with the simplest method, so I don't have to remember 5 different methods. So if the time comes, I can defer to the most effective method and get the job done.

And your comparison of 22LR's vs 45ACP doesn't hold water here. If you're saying that iron sights are like 22's and laser is the 45's, then that's just wrong. Getting your sights on target doesn't mean that you're going to hit that target. Trigger and pistol control can dramatically offset that perfect sight picture. So regardless if you had used iron or laser to get on target, if you jerk that trigger, the bullet will end up in a less than desirable place.

Yes, plenty of people have defended themselves with a couple of shots. And we carry 14+ rounds so incase something goes wrong. Therefore, if my iron sight were to fail, then I would end up using my muscle memory and my slide as a last resort.

Again, if the laser works for you, then great. I'm just stating why I don't find it useful. And for the record, I have tried them and it's just not for me.


Edit: And as someone else has recently mentioned on the subject of LG's, they also help with training, you can see any movement you may involuntarily be making without firing a shot, not to mention I guess if you cant manage to switch them off at the range when you're getting all proficient with your iron sights, I guess they're just too technical for you.


To dismiss a very realistic, and completely non intrusive advantage such as lasergrips on a 1911, is a bit silly.

It's funny that you have a track record of calling people names or degrading them, especially when they don't see your POV.

knedrgr
08-02-2011, 12:02
I agree, you should train mostly with the irons. I'd not want to rely solely on a laser. However, I can't train (or won't :embarassed:) where someone is shooting back at me. People who have been in lethal confrontations have been interviewed, some who were avid shooters, say they never saw the sights - they were unable to take their eyes off the threat.

I would agree with you there.

Z28ricer
08-02-2011, 12:42
So if your vision is "highly blurred" how do you know what you are shooting at? Just curious as to how this "scenario" came about so that we may learn from it.



I was walking home after going running, two people were walking the opposite way as I was intersected me at the same time I was turning right onto my street, one of them struck me with something large enough to span from my cheek bone on the left side of my face and split my lip all the way across inside to the right side. As I was coming back upright, one of them charging at me, calling me some obscenities, as well as someone elses name and saying "whats up now." I was sure wouldnt have been able to make out my sights, but could clearly enough identify the person 8-10 ft away coming straight at me.

On a related note to the thread I did just get my 1911 back, after 9 mths, lasergrips still working :)

MD357
08-02-2011, 12:48
I was walking home after going running, two people were walking the opposite way as I was intersected me at the same time I was turning right onto my street, one of them struck me with something large enough to span from my cheek bone on the left side of my face and split my lip all the way across inside to the right side. As I was coming back upright, one of them charging at me, calling me some obscenities, as well as someone elses name and saying "whats up now." I was sure wouldnt have been able to make out my sights, but could clearly enough identify the person 8-10 ft away coming straight at me.

On a related note to the thread I did just get my 1911 back, after 9 mths, lasergrips still working :)

I'm lost, so you fired your 1911 or not? You were struck in the head.... couldn't make out your sights.... but could identify the person 8ft away?

Z28ricer
08-02-2011, 12:53
I'm lost, so you fired your 1911 or not? You were struck in the head.... couldn't make out your sights.... but could identify the person 8ft away?


Yes.

Sights which are what, <1mm dots, at night in the dark, or a person coming at you, which are you more likely to be able to see ?

Hokie1911
08-02-2011, 15:03
Honestly, if someone was 8 ft in front of me, I feel pretty confident I would be able to hit them without sights or a laser. If not, I have no business carrying. :supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
08-02-2011, 15:09
Honestly, if someone was 8 ft in front of me, I feel pretty confident I would be able to hit them without sights or a laser. If not, I have no business carrying. :supergrin:

Point shooting........good training at the range!

Z28ricer
08-02-2011, 15:14
Honestly, if someone was 8 ft in front of me, I feel pretty confident I would be able to hit them without sights or a laser. If not, I have no business carrying. :supergrin:

I may have been just as well off, but I couldnt tell you 100% either way in reality, they were there, they worked, they arent intrusive at all, if it were a glock and the giant wraparound the backstrap, I wouldnt have them since they altered the grip too much for my liking.

Hokie1911
08-02-2011, 15:53
Point shooting........good training at the range!

Knedrgr and I were doing that last month at the range. Drawing and firing quickly...not even taking long enough to line up sights. Just point shooting. We were shooting at plates on a silhouette at 7yds. Not a lot of rounds on the plate, but all center mass on the silhouette, obviously enough with a 230gr JHP to get the job done.

SDGlock23
08-02-2011, 16:11
I've got a number of VZ grips. The 320's are smooth, but I like the double diamonds as they're grippy but not excessive. The elite tactical carry grips are good too, like a mix of the 320's and the double diamonds/diamond backs.

Hokie1911
08-02-2011, 16:53
If I wasn't running Alumagrips and was going G10....I'd go back to Larry D's Horned Lizards. Fantastic grips and a great guy to deal with. :thumbsup:

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/536ba3f9.jpg

PocketGroove
08-02-2011, 17:04
I need something comfy against the body and hand, nonstick and understated when riding IWB, and beautiful when I take her out for a clean and lube every few days. Here's I how roll. ZV Carbon Fiber/G10 320s
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/PocketGroove/photo-1.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/PocketGroove/holster.jpg

rb12
08-02-2011, 17:55
I had planned on something dark, vz, aluma, etc, but Sarge suggested the snakewood; I love the way to complements the cco and it is plenty tactile for me to get a good grip and draw and shoot with sweaty palms. No snagging on a t-shirt either


http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p473/rb12user/IMG_1417.jpg

Hokie1911
08-02-2011, 18:02
Sarge's grips and DWs go together like peanut butter and jelly.

drc767
08-02-2011, 18:34
I am waiting on mine from Sarge......gonna be slick as hell!!

knedrgr
08-02-2011, 18:41
I am waiting on mine from Sarge......gonna be slick as hell!!

You'll need another CCO for those to go on...:tongueout:

knedrgr
08-02-2011, 18:42
I need something comfy against the body and hand, nonstick and understated when riding IWB, and beautiful when I take her out for a clean and lube every few days. Here's I how roll. ZV Carbon Fiber/G10 320s

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/PocketGroove/holster.jpg

I wonder how much grippier they are compare to the regular 320's?

drc767
08-02-2011, 18:50
You'll need another CCO for those to go on...:tongueout:

Well let's see......I have a Wilson ULCc, a Baer Stinger that is currently at Metaloy getting a facelift........OH YEAH, then there is the Guncrafter No Name CCO that I hope I will have sometime in the fall. :)

rb12
08-02-2011, 18:51
Sarge's grips and DWs go together like peanut butter and jelly.

no doubt; all my 1911's have sported them over the years